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I read through (most) of this thread and I have a bit of a question that was worrying me. I was wondering, does a writer's success with a book (let's say the writer's first book) depend on how successful or well-known the publishing house that publishes that book is? Or does a writer's success truly reflect on the individual's skill? Like could a big-name publisher make a book more successful than a regular, run-of-the-mill publisher could? I'm not talking about vanity press or any sort of self-publishing agency, but a real, no-s**t, official publisher.
     
What is self-publishing? I dont really understand it.
 
     


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I read through (most) of this thread and I have a bit of a question that was worrying me. I was wondering, does a writer's success with a book (let's say the writer's first book) depend on how successful or well-known the publishing house that publishes that book is? Or does a writer's success truly reflect on the individual's skill? Like could a big-name publisher make a book more successful than a regular, run-of-the-mill publisher could? I'm not talking about vanity press or any sort of self-publishing agency, but a real, no-s**t, official publisher.

To answer that from a really big reader, it's kind of like video games. The better review, the better the game. To put it more simply, if a book is said to be really good, it will be but it also might not be. All authors are judged on their work. If you write an incredible book, people will love it for that instead of the format.

That's how Ellen Hopkins is. She writes in-verse (poem form) and people love her books because of her truths of deep issues that are commonly ignored. She's where I get my inspiration from because now I write in real life.

To the writer of this thread - These tips are really helpful but I'm currently not finding any information on how to send them an email for confirmation or to ask a few questions but it could be because I didn't search hard enough. Do you have anymore advice?
     
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Wow! Those can really come in handy! Thanks
 
     
 
Hey, thanks alot for all of the advice! biggrin
     
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thats alot of tips ninja really helpful poetry one though smile
 
     
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I like the commments on flat and round characters. ^_^

My dads always bugging me about that cause I can't seem to stick to a character all that well in some of my stories.

Does anyone have any specific publishers that they would seriously recomend?

I'm looking around for one for my book.
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This has helped me sooooooo much. Thanks! heart heart
     
There is another writing group called Urbis which I think should be listed. It's huge and you give as much as you receive. It's based on a credit system: you give reviews to gain credits to unlocking your own reviews. This way, no one is uploading and not reviewing. They cater to all genre's and unofficially, to fanfiction.

As for the tips, some are very good, but others are too general.

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If it's a fantastic setting, make it consistent, and try to use as little description as possible to describe the setting. I say this because going off on paragraphs of setting description is just not going to be very interesting to the reader. Give them small hints here and there, and let them build up their own pictures.


That should depend on what's important in the story. Sometimes say, a temple or a tree is crucial to a story, it should have as much detail that it deserves. The key is balance and if an author spends time on describing something, then the reader will automatically assume it's important to the story. However, there should be a proportion edit to make sure everything flows well. It's really up to the author on what they should spend time on and what they should not.

Also, there should be an adverb/adjective section because this is abused all the time, especially by new writers. Showing vs. Telling is also a crucial aspect to writing and I'll even go as far as to say it's the most important. After the grammar, after the punctuation, etc., showing decides on how the reader will perceive your story and how much they'll become involved.

And in World Building with fantasy, the weather also plays a key factor. With crops, with food gathering, with the seasons. If it storms all the time how would the people adapt? Like in my world I'm still building, how would the cultures deal with storms of pure energy? My world also has a dark and light side, and the middle is in perpetual sunset. What sort of plants would flourish on both sides? The middle? What animals would inhabit each side? I also have to deal with predators and prey, the food chain and which ones are good to eat for the population, and which ones to stay the hell away from.

People sometimes think fantasy is slapping some orcs and trolls down and then going from there - no - fantasy world building is extensive and should be extensive even if you don't use all the details in your story. The point is that YOU as the author know them.

The Metaphor Section...I'll give some tips; just give me a bit to put it
together.

Limyaael's rant is okay, but her preferences overshadow most of her essays. Who is she to say what is okay for fantasy and what is not? You can't please everyone and writers should realize that asap. Someone, somewhere will not like what you wrote no matter how interesting you've made the character or plot. I would suggest just read in the genre you're interested in to avoid cliche's - and always strive to avoid cliche's in general. Keep the descriptions and characters as fresh as you can make them.

As for the links, I also will suggest books to read. Online info is great, but writing books are better. They go more in depth usually than info on a website.
 
     
 
Metaphors, Similes, and Symbolism


It's pretty tricky pinpointing the difference between similes and metaphors. Even trickier to know when to use them, how to avoid the "forced metaphor" cliche similes, and how to "figure" out figurative language. Some writers seem to have the knack: metaphors roll from their fingertips and similes are something they can do in their sleep. The instinct when to use the appropriate figurative language can be honed, but it takes practice and time.

Avoid: Sticking in metaphors or similes anywhere in your writing to "spice it up". Most of the time these will look contrived and feel contrived. A poor metaphor or simile will throw a reader right out of your story - and you don't want that!

From the book Word Painting by Rebecca McClanahan : Metaphor, like all components of successful description, begins in the eye and ear of the beholder. It isn't fancy embroidery stitch, something with which to embellish the surface of the written piece. It's the whole cloth of which writing is formed.

Metaphor and Similes


A simile is a comparison using "like" or "as" other less common links are "than" and "resembles".

A metaphor is an comparison implied between two objects that suggests a wide range of qualities.

Simile: Your skin is like moonlight.
Metaphor: your skin is moonlight.

The difference is more than one word. A metaphor is two parts: the tenor, or the "main subject" that is usually a thing, but can be an idea or emotion. And the vehicle, the concrete image giving weight to the main subject; e.g. "he carried his guilt like a heavy suitcase". Guilt is the tenor, and suitcase is the vehicle. An effective metaphor does more than shed light on the two things being compared. It can bring to the mind's eye something that has never been seen before.

Then there is the implied metaphor, a metaphor that only has the one side of the tenor or vehicle.

Such as: Your skin is radiant and glows from within. The tenor (skin) is present, but radiant and glows merely suggests the vehicle (moonlight).

Bottom line: A Metaphor is an implied comparison. Simile is comparison made explicit. The simile calls attention to itself as a figure of speech; it not only shows the relationship between the two things compared, it explains the relationship.

A metaphor suggests the thing being compared is the other, and for this reason, metaphor carries more weight in emotion and intensity than a simile.

Other Figurative Language


Hyperbole:
is an exaggerated metaphor or simile.

=> Your boss is a pig or your hair is brighter than the most radiant ruby.

Personification: giving an inanimate object, force of nature or an abstract term traits as if it were a person.

=> The roses hesitated at the coming of the dawn, uncertain whether to spread their petals or stay closed against the unseasonably cold air.

Animism: Closely related to personification, but does not imply human life.

=> My anger was swept away by the wind and he flew over the trees, his eyes wide and mouth yawning in a scream.

Paradox: Creates a relationship that at first seems contradictory, but upon closer examination, makes sense.

I loved my sister too much to stay with her.

Metonymy: Referring to something not by its name, but a close relation.

=> Who's watching the baby? Not the mother, but the "hand that rocks the cradle". The President is the "White House"

Analogy: Is a comparison between two relationships, but contains four parts.

=> From Franz Kafke: A book is an axe for the frozen sea within.

Allegory: is a story or description where each element is metaphorical. these elements "add up" to something greater than the sum of their parts. This is an extended metaphor.

Conceit: Is a complicated comparison between two things extremely unalike. This requires logic and ingenuity on the writer's part. Not recommended unless you really know what you're doing.

=> Think separated lovers compared to the legs of a compass as in John Donne's poem, "A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning."

Symbols: As in metaphor, with the two sides: the tenor and the vehicle, symbolism is only the vehicle itself. A symbol points to the abstraction. As Poe's "The Raven", death isn't the symbol; the bird is. In the Red Badge of Courage, courage isn't the symbol, the blood is. A symbol reveals itself slowly, growing from its source from setting, character, plot, conflict, language and from our passion. A symbol can carry the weight of a hundred lesser metaphors. It's a powerful tool.

Use wisely, for if a symbol is forced, it can ruin the entire story.

Final words


Now, when to use metaphors and the like? The answer is: whenever it feels natural. I keep saying do not force these onto your writing and I mean it. Metaphors exist in the imagination, they come from our emotion, our memories, our childhood, our dreams. The best thing to do is not worry about it; metaphors are at best self-conscious and bad metaphors are like a poke in the arm to the reader. If we have too many in our writing, they call attention to themselves. Use them with discretion.

If you're having trouble with metaphors or figurative language in general, try to read poetry, study surreal artwork, play with children; children often find interesting uses for every day items. Study other authors who use metaphor effectively in their stories. Look at an ordinary household item and imagine another use for it. Can a chopsticks be antlers? Can a spoon or bowl be a hat? Could they combined to make a boat?

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Thank you so much, Eithia. Your advice is extremely helpful! biggrin
 
     
 
You're welcome Aubree smile
     
The official Manuscript Format listing fails to elaborate on a few points.

What do I do about chapter breaks within a short story? Should they be numeric (4), roman numerals (IV) or a series of asteriks (****)? Should they be centered? Do they get additional spacing?

Are there any special rules for footnotes? What should be the size of the footnote font relative to the main font? Should footnotes use numbers or asteriks?

Anybody know of some magazine that publish stories longer than 10,000 words? >.> Particularly ones geared towards fantasy or horror.

References to exclusively fantasy-based magazines would also be greatly appreciated.
 
     
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