Homosexuality - The New Black (Get Ready To Feel Indignant).

[The last Decepticon]

Prairie_Fire

And to the people who read these things; get over yourself and go read some smut cause, let’s just face it, you’re only reading the stories for ‘lol boys kissing lol Harry Potter’.

You have an attitude problem. neutral

[TillyMT]

OMG.

I LOVE you!

razz

All of my friends would write books about gay or bisexual kids, and everyone would praise them to NO ******** END. OMG YOUR BOOK IS SO FANTASTIC LET ME LICK IT PLEASE OMG OMG. Seriously. Anyway, everyone told me that I wasn't as good a writer as everyone else. I had two years more experience than they did, I had written two books, and they were telling me that I wasn't as good, simply because my book wasn't about a bunch of horny emo gay kids getting jiggy, getting found out by their drunk parents, and getting beaten over the head with a baseball bat.

Eww. It drove me insane.

[MythosRattus]

As a bisexual woman and a writer, I think I'm going to have to hug you for that rant. ^_^
It's nice to see an intelligently made point on the forums. The usual "ZOMG nu fair!" crap really grates on the nerves after a while.

One thing, though... why the poor little kittens? crying

[Zoeidina]

OMG wat the hell is wrong with you?!11?! scream scream

your scuh a 13itch!
Did I ease your need for flames?

[Foxy Grampa]

I'm a slash writer;
I'm a slash reader;
I'm a slasher;
I'm bisexual;

And all I have to say is this....

THANK YOU. surprised

[Spatterdash]

Excellent rant.
Sexuality shouldn't define a character; it's just one of those things. Stories which are just all about the character being omgtehghey are just flippin' boring, and if there's one thing a story should never be, it's boring. And I'm getting fed up with kids writing about the hot mansex and thinking they're so damn rebellious and progressive; hot mansex is fun and all, but there's no need to get on your high horse and think you're some kind of crusader for gay rights because you like writing/drawing/looking at porny wish-fulfilment fantasies. (This also applies to hot girlsex, but usually the ones who go for the lesbian porn are at least honest that that's what they're producing.)

It's sad that you have to go and say this, really. This kind of thing should be common sense.

[Mello_McQueen]

lol I agree.

Unfortunately, most of what I write is romance, but while it does play a big part in the story usually (because it is a romance duh...), it is not all that the story is about.

In fact, it usually involves a veriaty of different things, and the situations my characters are thrown into, and what they have to do, and at times the whole romance issue of the story is entirely forgotten, and when/if, in the end my MC winds up with the guy/girl they wanted to be with, the world does not automatically make sense.

In fact, that is about when I introduce a whole new issue that is going to frakk them over royally. Mwahahahaha! I'm evil like that.

My character preferences? Most of my characters are usually homsexual, because oddly I'm a little heterophobic. *blinks...how is that possible? I'm straight...? oh well!* But that does not automatically mean my story is the greatest thing in the world and I would never expect it too. If someone says it is good 'cause my characters are gay...I'd b***h slap them till they couldn't remember their own name.

And I'd probably tie them up and throw them on some well placed train tracks...bloody prats...characters being gay, is the absolute most retarded reason for thinking a story is good.

For a story to be good, it would have to be VERY well written, and involve something other than guy/girl on guy/girl action. Like...an actual PLOTLINE!

Nobody wants to read a story that goes:

Guy 1: "Oh, I am gay, I LOVE THIS GUY! *cries* He hates me... "spends fifty chapters trying to make said guy fall in love with him* *angst* it didn't WORK! He hates me even worse.*

Guy 2: "Oh woe is me! What do I DO? I love him! But I can't say I love him because my family will SHUN ME! *sob* Oh I've got it! I'll PRETEND to hate him! But I'll be miserable...oh well...its worth it!"

*fifty more long a** chapters ensue of said two guys dancing circles around each other* Guy 2: "Screw it! I LOVE YOU!"

Guy 1: *cries and falls down on knees* "I love you too!"

*punches them in the face* Anyone who writes like that...I loathe you. You're a moron, and it is pathetic. Thank you. *bows and walks away now that she is done with her rant*

[Yazin]

You, me, France, now.

To be honest I really don't give a ******** about your character's sexuality. Coming out stories and whatnot are pretty much identical to supermarket harlequin romance novels, which is fine if you're into that stuff, but I'm not. It's annoying to see stories like that that get so much hype simply because it's female/female this time instead of male/female, as if it makes any difference. Gonna close this off before it gets too tl;dr.

It's about goddamn time someone made a rant on this.

[MoonFlight]

I agree completely.
I think it's all very good to write gay oreintated stories as a guilty pleasure if you really want but don't expect to be taken seriously with it.

I always write my stories and know the sexual orieintation of my characters, not because it's a main focus, but because I'm an a**l retentive detail lover who likes everything to be realistic.
They just are in my writing and it never becomes a main focus.

The gay characters personality being "gay" peeves me off so much, if your characters are gay thats all very well but they weren't born to be gay and that alone. They have lives around their sexual oreintations and friends who are not gay and don't always talk about how being gay is.

I've only ever written one gay relationship into my stories and the two of them are their own people, they have hobbies that are nothing to with being gay, they have friends who don't stare at them and think "omg their gay" and they didn't cry coming out or get beaten up as a consequence of it. It was just a relationship that worked in the context of my story and I thought was quite essential for getting part of the message across and helping the both of them develop in some ways.

Yes I agree, stories solely about gays tend to be annoying (excluding things like Queer as Folk which is genius).

[Talim-Hime]

I think there's still something about having gay characters that alerts the reader to a more serious topic in the work, though there might not be one at all.

For example, the book Wicked by Gregory Maguire features two males who are heavily hinted at being gay and in a relationship. One becomes insane after participating in a raunchy show that goes way too far.

The thing is, they're not even main characters. And the fact that the character was drunk off his a** when volunteering to participate is probably why he chose to in the first place, not because he was gay.

For some reason, that small side story in the novel helped me realize gay people aren't angsty about their sexual preference, though I can imagine there's still a little discomfort in the matter, no matter how confident one is about it.

I've been working on my own story, in the genre of fantasy, and for some reason I've felt somewhat bad I haven't incorporated any homesexual romance. It seems like a silly problem, but I don't want my world to be the "elves and goblins" type. I want it to mimic our world and show the problems that plague any society, rather than dazzle readers and have little substance.

[Galvorte]

Talim Ra

I've been working on my own story, in the genre of fantasy, and for some reason I've felt somewhat bad I haven't incorporated any homesexual romance. It seems like a silly problem, but I don't want my world to be the "elves and goblins" type. I want it to mimic our world and show the problems that plague any society, rather than dazzle readers and have little substance.

Don't feel bad. Putting in a token homosexual romance just because you think there should be one is every bit as bad as not having any because you think homosexual romance is bad.

Let it happen naturally, or not at all. The same can be said of skin color, gender, and what have you.

[Darkest Dream Secrets Lie]

that is so true, why don't people just write mc as gay and not put any emphasis on it? just have there, it's part of them, but just a tiny little note in the story, like in that one movie, the haunting or rose red, i always mix them up, the one girl was bi but they hardly mentioned it and she was perfectly normal.
blaugh

[Darkest Dream Secrets Lie]

Zoeidina

OMG wat the hell is wrong with you?!11?! scream scream

your scuh a 13itch!
Did I ease your need for flames?

GRRRAWWGRR!!!!!!!
domokun dramallama domokun

there must be something wrong with you, not her

[her paper hero]

Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.

If I see another shitty coming-out story, I swear to God I'm going to punch the first fangirl I encounter in the ******** ovaries.

Want to hear my big dramatic angst-laden coming out story?



We have one bathroom. My mom was in the shower. I had to pee. So I go in, give my mother fair warning, and I sit on the toilet. My mother peeks at me through the curtains and asks me very casually if my girlfriend Kaitlin is, in fact, my girlfriend.

I said yes.

She said, "Oh, alright."

End of ******** story.



Why does it have to be such a big deal? I realize that a lot of people are of that archaic mindset that homosexuality really is some hulking monster that needs to be destroyed, but a steadily increasing number of people AREN'T ANY MORE. Gasp. Shock. Awe.

If we continue in the direction we're going, I bet a lot more "coming out" stories are going to be as unintrusive and boring as mine was and maybe the fanbrats will stop focusing on it as though it's the only important thing that ever happens to a gay person in his or her entire life.

[Coffee and Alcohol]

Darkest Dream Secrets Lie

Zoeidina

OMG wat the hell is wrong with you?!11?! scream scream

your scuh a 13itch!
Did I ease your need for flames?

GRRRAWWGRR!!!!!!!
domokun dramallama domokun

there must be something wrong with you, not her

No, I think there's something wrong with you - I think it's that you were born without a sense of humor.

Let me spell it out: SHE WAS KIDDING. SHE DOES NOT USUALLY TYPE LIKE THAT. ACTUALLY, SHE IS ONE OF THE FORUM REGULARS AND IS MORE LITERATE THAN YOU.