A Little Rant. If you're easily offended, leave.

[Xiam]

Adara Wolfe

Is it just me, or is there a serious decline in the number of good writers in this forum. There are so many people who call themselves writers and hang around here that shouldn't call themselves that. Honestly, no self-respecting writer with a true love for their craft would actually post something like this:

"hai guyz can u rate ths story 4 me? i kno its not good but plz give me comments"

First of all, no self-respecting writer would actually admit their writing was not that good. If you're going to share your writing, at least share something you feel like you did well! Why would anyone honestly want to show off the work that they gave little effort to?

Second, how could anyone calling themselves a writer actually post something like that, whether it was their story or not. If you're too damn lazy to hit the shift key once in a while, you don't deserve to be called a writer. I don't care if English is your first language or not, it's common sense for any Latin based language.

Another thing that generally bothers me is the amount of block texts I see. If you're going to write, follow a book paragraph format. It's really not that difficult a concept. I understood it in the third grade when I started writing.

I don't hang around this forum often, but I used to. I left because it was so hard to find anyone who actually seemed to care about their writing. I check back once in a while to see if I can find any good stories to give a real critique to and ask the author to critique something of mine in return, but I have such a hard time doing that.

Of course, that's only my opinion. What does anyone else think?

I AM OFFENDED!

I actually agree, though I have a bit of elitism that follows me no matter what forum I'm in. I like to see clear, well-written text. Which is a shame, given that I am a bit... ranty, at times.

Workplace Boredom

The Phoenix Rises Again

I think its more of an increase in illiterate people and them making the literate ones go into hiding until a good thread appears (which don't happen often and are swamped under a ton of illiterate threads when they do appear).

This is what happened to the Art Discussion, as a matter of fact. God, I could have so much fun in there if shitty threads were people and I had a shotgun.

I generally stick to Comic Creators, but I have definitely seen that kind of s**t on my way through. "AVI ART PLAX!" Wrong forum, jackass. scream

...It's gotten kinda sad in CC too, now that I think of it.

[Rein F Wolfe]

Shh. Your name is going to make people think you're me. Or that we're related.
ninja ninja

I had posted a similar rant, hoping to disguise it with a topic of writing.

I noticed that when that rule of "DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE IN THE WRONG FORUM" came out, there was a huge increase in silly little nubby nubs posting their stories, poems, and other pieces of fail all over the WF.

[Lord Tezzy]

I am under the opinion a self-respecting author is bound to not be a very good one.

Self-respect is underated, especially in writing.

I'm not above saying I write s**t. If I write s**t, I have room to improve.

If I write well, what reason do I have to force myself to learn to write better?

But yes, this forum is filled with 13 year old wannabe writers who really haven't figured out what it means to be a writer yet. Thanks for pointing that out. You win the "state the obvious" prize of today.

And Rein,with the addition of this new rule, we're not allowed to. Since the mods are slow as hell to do their damn job, and the newbs are incredibly fast, and the regulars aren't allowed to say "GO READ THE DAMN STICKIES" it is only logical that the WF will slowly fall into the poor quality of every other forum on gaia. I'm not saying we were better before, we were just different. We were a sarcastic group of people forcing our forum to be as perfect as possible (and flaming and getting angry and making it "newby unfriendly" in the process). Now we are just the same as every other forum.

I'd prefer to be different and have more of what belongs than the same and a bunch of dumb and useless threads cluttering the first three pages.

[Rein F Wolfe]

I'm reading through this rant and I'm noticing the words "Literate" and "Those silly illiterates" like you're some how superior, what with your "Perfect" grammar and spelling.

Granted, we do get a lot of people who are illiterate, referring to them like they're cockroaches just furthers my own disgruntled hate to the general community of the WF.
The problem, you see, is not that the writer's forum is full of people who are illiterate, its full of people who are under this strange notion that they are writers.

I will say this: There isn't a single, god damn one of you here who hasn't started off with a story you've written, posted it in the writer's forum, and then without fail, received a truckload of pointless asshattery, bad critiques and "lulz i lyk it it r not bad." thrown in for good measure.

Maybe if everyone stops thinking that they're Writers (the capital W makes all the difference) and start being... Oh, I dunno... Helpful? Some of those people who type with grammar they got out of a cereal box will learn something, rather than everyone having the same mantra of "GRAMMAR SPELLING OR KILL YOURSELF" and thus making some poor innocent person, who with some practice like every writer has to do in order to be a good writer could in fact write a readable story, instead you blow them off, call them s**t, and go make them become an heroes.

Why don't you all stop bitching about the rise in illiteracy and do something to ******** fix it?

[Rein F Wolfe]

Ryiel

I am under the opinion a self-respecting author is bound to not be a very good one.

Self-respect is underated, especially in writing.

I'm not above saying I write s**t. If I write s**t, I have room to improve.

If I write well, what reason do I have to force myself to learn to write better?

But yes, this forum is filled with 13 year old wannabe writers who really haven't figured out what it means to be a writer yet. Thanks for pointing that out. You win the "state the obvious" prize of today.

And Rein,with the addition of this new rule, we're not allowed to. Since the mods are slow as hell to do their damn job, and the newbs are incredibly fast, and the regulars aren't allowed to say "GO READ THE DAMN STICKIES" it is only logical that the WF will slowly fall into the poor quality of every other forum on gaia. I'm not saying we were better before, we were just different. We were a sarcastic group of people forcing our forum to be as perfect as possible (and flaming and getting angry and making it "newby unfriendly" in the process). Now we are just the same as every other forum.

I'd prefer to be different and have more of what belongs than the same and a bunch of dumb and useless threads cluttering the first three pages.

Ryiel, I already gave my two pence in about how ******** slow the moderators are.

And I do think that I said we aren't allowed to tell people, or something to a similar effect?.

Rein F Wolfe

... "DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE IN THE WRONG FORUM" ...

Oh, and as for us all being a sarcastic group of people.... Yeah. We were. And hey, we still are. But if you have to start flame wars over stupidity, Ryiel, its obvious that our happy hatted forum is far from "Perfect"

And no, we aren't the same as every forum. I have yet to see how we're "just like" the Chatter Box, the General Discussion, The Extended Discussion (Which is largely full of fail) and Barton Town.

I don't see cyber sex requests, HAO AWZUM TEH NOO ITEM US, 'Should .99 continuous equal 1?' or "DIS R EPIC ROLPALY."

[Newfable]

OneXMuerte

Well, I am a serious writer.

For one reason or another, the fact that you have to differentiate yourself from a "non-serious" writer is hilarious.

Jaiden`

This is Gaia, not a writer's conference.

^This.

A lot of users forget that it's just Gaia. This site is a forum intended for role-play for young kids and tweens (yeah, the audience shifted, but that doesn't change it's design). Take everything you hear from anyone else with a grain of salt, 'cause it's just Gaia, and anyone from a 9 year old kid to a 30 year old fiance can be using this site.

And yes, I never post work on this site. It'd just be a joke. If anything, I've linked to my work on other sites here before, but that's about as far as it gets.

[Rein F Wolfe]

Newfable

OneXMuerte

Well, I am a serious writer.

For one reason or another, the fact that you have to differentiate yourself from a "non-serious" writer is hilarious.

Jaiden`

This is Gaia, not a writer's conference.

^This.

A lot of users forget that it's just Gaia. This site is a forum intended for role-play for young kids and tweens (yeah, the audience shifted, but that doesn't change it's design). Take everything you hear from anyone else with a grain of salt, 'cause it's just Gaia, and anyone from a 9 year old kid to a 30 year old fiance can be using this site.

And yes, I never post work on this site. It'd just be a joke. If anything, I've linked to my work on other sites here before, but that's about as far as it gets.

1. Some people do not write seriously. I don't write seriously. If you take yourself seriously, you already lost.
I learned that lesson in the Comic forum.

2. Yes, it is just Gaia. But didn't you hear? The internet is srs bsns.
The fact that a person would even post a story on gaia in the first place is redundant. If anything, I use it as storage now, in case I need to back up something that I can't save.

3. Smite those against you and exalt the ones who love you.
In other words, if someone gives you a meaningful critique, immediately put them on your ignore list and flame them like an angry azn, but if a nubby says "LZOL I LURVE IT", strive to be their bestest friend.

4. ?????

5. PROFIT.

[Newfable]

Rein F Wolfe

1. Some people do not write seriously. I don't write seriously. If you take yourself seriously, you already lost.
I learned that lesson in the Comic forum.

2. Yes, it is just Gaia. But didn't you hear? The internet is srs bsns.
The fact that a person would even post a story on gaia in the first place is redundant. If anything, I use it as storage now, in case I need to back up something that I can't save.

3. Smite those against you and exalt the ones who love you.
In other words, if someone gives you a meaningful critique, immediately put them on your ignore list and flame them like an angry azn, but if a nubby says "LZOL I LURVE IT", strive to be their bestest friend.

4. ?????

5. PROFIT.

Oh man, it may be because it's early where I'm at, but I can't tell if you're serious or not. Either way you slice it, this put a smile on my face.

Cheers, you silly jester you.

[Rein F Wolfe]

Newfable

Rein F Wolfe

1. Some people do not write seriously. I don't write seriously. If you take yourself seriously, you already lost.
I learned that lesson in the Comic forum.

2. Yes, it is just Gaia. But didn't you hear? The internet is srs bsns.
The fact that a person would even post a story on gaia in the first place is redundant. If anything, I use it as storage now, in case I need to back up something that I can't save.

3. Smite those against you and exalt the ones who love you.
In other words, if someone gives you a meaningful critique, immediately put them on your ignore list and flame them like an angry azn, but if a nubby says "LZOL I LURVE IT", strive to be their bestest friend.

4. ?????

5. PROFIT.

Oh man, it may be because it's early where I'm at, but I can't tell if you're serious or not. Either way you slice it, this put a smile on my face.

Cheers, you silly jester you.

I was about 2% serious in that.
I'm one of those new fangled Writer's Forum goers.
The ones who, you know, have a real sense of humor and want to help pull the pine tree that was rammed in the WF's a**.

[xXTears of the WolfXx]

I agree with Adara wolf. I dont even post anything I write on here because if I need critique then I will ask some of my friends or family. There is no point posting on here unlesss you want sympathy from people you dont know. Think about it, some people are lying to you since they probably feel bad and wont admit that it sucks (only if you're a noob) and others wont care. If you want some real critique then show it to your teacher! And on top of that I dont write anything on here anymore because people steal my work

[Newfable]

xXTears of the WolfXx? Rein F Wolfe? Adara Wolfe?

What in the hell is going on here?

[Lord Tezzy]

Rein F Wolfe

Ryiel

I am under the opinion a self-respecting author is bound to not be a very good one.

Self-respect is underated, especially in writing.

I'm not above saying I write s**t. If I write s**t, I have room to improve.

If I write well, what reason do I have to force myself to learn to write better?

But yes, this forum is filled with 13 year old wannabe writers who really haven't figured out what it means to be a writer yet. Thanks for pointing that out. You win the "state the obvious" prize of today.

And Rein,with the addition of this new rule, we're not allowed to. Since the mods are slow as hell to do their damn job, and the newbs are incredibly fast, and the regulars aren't allowed to say "GO READ THE DAMN STICKIES" it is only logical that the WF will slowly fall into the poor quality of every other forum on gaia. I'm not saying we were better before, we were just different. We were a sarcastic group of people forcing our forum to be as perfect as possible (and flaming and getting angry and making it "newby unfriendly" in the process). Now we are just the same as every other forum.

I'd prefer to be different and have more of what belongs than the same and a bunch of dumb and useless threads cluttering the first three pages.

Ryiel, I already gave my two pence in about how ******** slow the moderators are.

And I do think that I said we aren't allowed to tell people, or something to a similar effect?.

Rein F Wolfe

... "DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE IN THE WRONG FORUM" ...

Oh, and as for us all being a sarcastic group of people.... Yeah. We were. And hey, we still are. But if you have to start flame wars over stupidity, Ryiel, its obvious that our happy hatted forum is far from "Perfect"

And no, we aren't the same as every forum. I have yet to see how we're "just like" the Chatter Box, the General Discussion, The Extended Discussion (Which is largely full of fail) and Barton Town.

I don't see cyber sex requests, HAO AWZUM TEH NOO ITEM US, 'Should .99 continuous equal 1?' or "DIS R EPIC ROLPALY."

Actually, I think I edited that topic sentence and it ended up somehow screw up. I'm not sure what happened, but that sentence is entirely out of character (if this is making sense at all)

Anyway, I think you didn't quite understand what I meant. The regs here were trying SO HARD to make this forum perfect, that they flamed the hell out of everyone who screwed it up. I didn't say we were perfect, I said we were striving for perfection and screwing it up ourselves. That's why the new rule came into effect.

Problem is, now we can't tell people to GTFO if they don't obey the rules. And so, with slow mods and all, the forum slowly but surely WILL become just like all the others. We just had a one line post like this "sdfgha ghdsfjewfhg ggghefgjah" two days ago. That was it. The entirety of the thread. We've had dozens of threads that break the rules, whether intentional or not, and because we can't tell them they are wrong, other threads with the same topic pop up, thinking they are right. In the end, we are essentially opening a floodgate of s**t threads without purpose. We'll end up like all the other forums, cluttered with crap threads that don't go away.

That's what I meant. I don't like the new rule, but I get where's it's coming from. The only problem is, if they want to hae the new rule, the mods have to be WAY MORE ACTIVE, and they aren't. which is the problem. They can't have it both ways, if you ask me.

[Rein F Wolfe]

I had the same comment earlier.

Rein F Wolfe

Shh. Your name is going to make people think you're me. Or that we're related.

I've been around since 2004 (This account is recent, 2009)...

I think they're copying me.

[Rein F Wolfe]

Ryiel

Rein F Wolfe

Ryiel

I am under the opinion a self-respecting author is bound to not be a very good one.

Self-respect is underated, especially in writing.

I'm not above saying I write s**t. If I write s**t, I have room to improve.

If I write well, what reason do I have to force myself to learn to write better?

But yes, this forum is filled with 13 year old wannabe writers who really haven't figured out what it means to be a writer yet. Thanks for pointing that out. You win the "state the obvious" prize of today.

And Rein,with the addition of this new rule, we're not allowed to. Since the mods are slow as hell to do their damn job, and the newbs are incredibly fast, and the regulars aren't allowed to say "GO READ THE DAMN STICKIES" it is only logical that the WF will slowly fall into the poor quality of every other forum on gaia. I'm not saying we were better before, we were just different. We were a sarcastic group of people forcing our forum to be as perfect as possible (and flaming and getting angry and making it "newby unfriendly" in the process). Now we are just the same as every other forum.

I'd prefer to be different and have more of what belongs than the same and a bunch of dumb and useless threads cluttering the first three pages.

Ryiel, I already gave my two pence in about how ******** slow the moderators are.

And I do think that I said we aren't allowed to tell people, or something to a similar effect?.

Rein F Wolfe

... "DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE IN THE WRONG FORUM" ...

Oh, and as for us all being a sarcastic group of people.... Yeah. We were. And hey, we still are. But if you have to start flame wars over stupidity, Ryiel, its obvious that our happy hatted forum is far from "Perfect"

And no, we aren't the same as every forum. I have yet to see how we're "just like" the Chatter Box, the General Discussion, The Extended Discussion (Which is largely full of fail) and Barton Town.

I don't see cyber sex requests, HAO AWZUM TEH NOO ITEM US, 'Should .99 continuous equal 1?' or "DIS R EPIC ROLPALY."

Actually, I think I edited that topic sentence and it ended up somehow screw up. I'm not sure what happened, but that sentence is entirely out of character (if this is making sense at all)

Anyway, I think you didn't quite understand what I meant. The regs here were trying SO HARD to make this forum perfect, that they flamed the hell out of everyone who screwed it up. I didn't say we were perfect, I said we were striving for perfection and screwing it up ourselves. That's why the new rule came into effect.

Problem is, now we can't tell people to GTFO if they don't obey the rules. And so, with slow mods and all, the forum slowly but surely WILL become just like all the others. We just had a one line post like this "sdfgha ghdsfjewfhg ggghefgjah" two days ago. That was it. The entirety of the thread. We've had dozens of threads that break the rules, whether intentional or not, and because we can't tell them they are wrong, other threads with the same topic pop up, thinking they are right. In the end, we are essentially opening a floodgate of s**t threads without purpose. We'll end up like all the other forums, cluttered with crap threads that don't go away.

That's what I meant. I don't like the new rule, but I get where's it's coming from. The only problem is, if they want to hae the new rule, the mods have to be WAY MORE ACTIVE, and they aren't. which is the problem. They can't have it both ways, if you ask me.

I see what you mean now.
Thank you for clearing it up.

As for slow mods, I even mentioned to Terrii, or whatever her name is (She is the one that generally deals with reports against me) that the moderators seemed to be too slow to keep up with the reports, and that I wanted to be a moderator myself, since I don't have a life right now.

EDIT:
Also, in my own combat against that rule, I began reporting anything and everything I thought would be a violation of the new rule, and old ones in place by definitions given to me for reasons why my own posts/topics were BALLEETED.

Do what I'm doing. Flood the ******** moderators with reports.

[Lord Tezzy]

Rein F Wolfe

Ryiel

Rein F Wolfe

Ryiel

I am under the opinion a self-respecting author is bound to not be a very good one.

Self-respect is underated, especially in writing.

I'm not above saying I write s**t. If I write s**t, I have room to improve.

If I write well, what reason do I have to force myself to learn to write better?

But yes, this forum is filled with 13 year old wannabe writers who really haven't figured out what it means to be a writer yet. Thanks for pointing that out. You win the "state the obvious" prize of today.

And Rein,with the addition of this new rule, we're not allowed to. Since the mods are slow as hell to do their damn job, and the newbs are incredibly fast, and the regulars aren't allowed to say "GO READ THE DAMN STICKIES" it is only logical that the WF will slowly fall into the poor quality of every other forum on gaia. I'm not saying we were better before, we were just different. We were a sarcastic group of people forcing our forum to be as perfect as possible (and flaming and getting angry and making it "newby unfriendly" in the process). Now we are just the same as every other forum.

I'd prefer to be different and have more of what belongs than the same and a bunch of dumb and useless threads cluttering the first three pages.

Ryiel, I already gave my two pence in about how ******** slow the moderators are.

And I do think that I said we aren't allowed to tell people, or something to a similar effect?.

Rein F Wolfe

... "DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE IN THE WRONG FORUM" ...

Oh, and as for us all being a sarcastic group of people.... Yeah. We were. And hey, we still are. But if you have to start flame wars over stupidity, Ryiel, its obvious that our happy hatted forum is far from "Perfect"

And no, we aren't the same as every forum. I have yet to see how we're "just like" the Chatter Box, the General Discussion, The Extended Discussion (Which is largely full of fail) and Barton Town.

I don't see cyber sex requests, HAO AWZUM TEH NOO ITEM US, 'Should .99 continuous equal 1?' or "DIS R EPIC ROLPALY."

Actually, I think I edited that topic sentence and it ended up somehow screw up. I'm not sure what happened, but that sentence is entirely out of character (if this is making sense at all)

Anyway, I think you didn't quite understand what I meant. The regs here were trying SO HARD to make this forum perfect, that they flamed the hell out of everyone who screwed it up. I didn't say we were perfect, I said we were striving for perfection and screwing it up ourselves. That's why the new rule came into effect.

Problem is, now we can't tell people to GTFO if they don't obey the rules. And so, with slow mods and all, the forum slowly but surely WILL become just like all the others. We just had a one line post like this "sdfgha ghdsfjewfhg ggghefgjah" two days ago. That was it. The entirety of the thread. We've had dozens of threads that break the rules, whether intentional or not, and because we can't tell them they are wrong, other threads with the same topic pop up, thinking they are right. In the end, we are essentially opening a floodgate of s**t threads without purpose. We'll end up like all the other forums, cluttered with crap threads that don't go away.

That's what I meant. I don't like the new rule, but I get where's it's coming from. The only problem is, if they want to hae the new rule, the mods have to be WAY MORE ACTIVE, and they aren't. which is the problem. They can't have it both ways, if you ask me.

I see what you mean now.
Thank you for clearing it up.

As for slow mods, I even mentioned to Terrii, or whatever her name is (She is the one that generally deals with reports against me) that the moderators seemed to be too slow to keep up with the reports, and that I wanted to be a moderator myself, since I don't have a life right now.

EDIT:
Also, in my own combat against that rule, I began reporting anything and everything I thought would be a violation of the new rule, and old ones in place by definitions given to me for reasons why my own posts/topics were BALLEETED.

Do what I'm doing. Flood the ******** moderators with reports.

Good plan. Then they either have to work harder, or get more. I wouldn't mind beign a moderator for the rest of the summer as I am essentially sitting around the house doing nothing five days of the week, but once school starts again I probably won't have time for a long while. How the heck do you even become a mod?