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Dundeleedum
Joining this late, sorry

Prelim
This is completely on your schedule. Never too late.

Also, I'm finally getting over my illness, so I'll be posting new videos next week. (I still am having issues with my voice.)

Edit: I'm going to PM you with some questions about your prelim. If you are set to friends only, please add me. You're good to move on, just the same.
Errol McGillivray
Dundeleedum
Joining this late, sorry

Prelim
This is completely on your schedule. Never too late.

Also, I'm finally getting over my illness, so I'll be posting new videos next week. (I still am having issues with my voice.)

Edit: I'm going to PM you with some questions about your prelim. If you are set to friends only, please add me. You're good to move on, just the same.


No problem, PM are enabled
Week 3 is up for those that haven't pussied out. 3nodding
Tayasu Sango's avatar

Sparkly Sweetheart

...I don't remember what a tree looks like accurately. emotion_facepalm We definitely weren't allowed to use references, were we...? emotion_sweatdrop

Opening Task - Week #3.

I roughly cropped the image to the edges of the paper. Let me know if it's too light (or if there's anything wrong with it in general).

Do we post the video drawings? If so, do we crop to the edge of the paper or do want us to crop the excess space?
Tayasu Sango
...I don't remember what a tree looks like accurately. emotion_facepalm We definitely weren't allowed to use references, were we...? emotion_sweatdrop

Opening Task - Week #3.

I roughly cropped the image to the edges of the paper. Let me know if it's too light (or if there's anything wrong with it in general).

Do we post the video drawings? If so, do we crop to the edge of the paper or do want us to crop the excess space?
No reference.

That's the point. Draw from memory.

Taking a look at the opening task now.
Tayasu Sango
...I don't remember what a tree looks like accurately. emotion_facepalm We definitely weren't allowed to use references, were we...? emotion_sweatdrop

Opening Task - Week #3.

I roughly cropped the image to the edges of the paper. Let me know if it's too light (or if there's anything wrong with it in general).

Do we post the video drawings? If so, do we crop to the edge of the paper or do want us to crop the excess space?
You can treat any "omg sketch it now" moments like dailies. Only the quiz really needs to show the the edges of the page so I can see how you used the space. Everything else is just exercise for the mind, eye, and arm.

I find you choice of tree interesting. Are they the type of tree you see around town most often? I'm in NJ, so we've got pines everywhere, but not many pines have that shape.

I suspect its because when you reached inside for "tree", you came up with an immediate icon that comes to mind because of how ingrained it is in society. Not because it's something from nature, but because it's a society symbol. I also think that happened because you're convinced you don't know what a tree looks like and you panicked. You focused on "tree" instead of "a tree".

Am I close?

Haha. It's good to look back and realize how far you've come.

That's why I put such an emphasis on direct observation. (I prefer not to call it just "drawing from life", since that's kind of vague and people tend to limit that to figure drawing). Only a couple short years ago, I didn't ACTUALLY know what a tree looked like either.

My iconic tree was a modification of the tree I drew in elementary school. Remember those lollipop trees? One day I realized that I was just drawing squiggly contour lollipops. As an adult with some ten years of classes, it was unacceptable. So I spent days outdoors, paying close attention to the trees in my area. I paid attention to each section of parts on their own. Drawing them from memory, then comparing the real thing to my drawing. I started taking a full day field trip with my camera, photographing a single subject. After I saw all different kinds of the same subject, I started seeing how some trees had more going on in a certain part, rather than the others. And different trees had different places of interest.

That's all part of direct observation. It teaches you reality, so when you pull your icon "tree", it will be closer to "a tree" than before. It's not too long before you get to a point where your icon is "a tree". Your immediate icon is now something you can actually use in a drawing, so you don't have to rely on reference for it.

To anyone reading: The more you add to your visual library with direct observation and from doing studies, the less time you waste hunting reference. The more time that we can free from hunting reference, the more time we can spend actually designing the image. Design is what separates creating art from playing with supplies.

(Working on week 4. Since I get to start early, this one will be just for you. Let's hope I get another quiz in besides yours by Wed.)
Tayasu Sango's avatar

Sparkly Sweetheart

Yup, you're spot on. Even though there are pines where I live, I lack enough visuals to draw it like it is. I've never closely studied a pine before and if I did (which is preposterous since you should be aware of when you are studying lol), it's probably been a couple of years.

I contemplated drawing those trees you find out in town that are stuck in those square patches of whatever but I though the Christmas tree was easier to bullshit bahahaha (especially when I realized I couldn't draw any of them).

Anyway, I'll try to get the quiz done by Wednesday.
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Assimilated Gekko

ninja I should stop being so lazy and accelerate the rate I've been doing dailies, considering I'm still on week 1 and I just cleared my assignment pile for a week.
Seirya
ninja I should stop being so lazy and accelerate the rate I've been doing dailies, considering I'm still on week 1 and I just cleared my assignment pile for a week.
Well, I'm working week by week as I can. You guys can take as long as you like. Just let me know which week you're showing me stuff from. The benefit to working week to week is getting your stuff critiqued as part of the overall thing (nice and anonymous).

I just got a turning table thing guys! Rotating objects, y'all! (I hope I'm not the only one excited about that. Haha.)

Anyway, if you guys would like, I can just make week 4 the feedback and wrap up of week 3. I guess odd weeks are new material based on the previous week and even weeks are the feedback and wrap up. That gives you 2 weeks to do dailies. You're going to get more out of that than just one week. (And it gives me time to collect the things I need and go out to different locations to make the videos.)
Tayasu Sango
Yup, you're spot on. Even though there are pines where I live, I lack enough visuals to draw it like it is. I've never closely studied a pine before and if I did (which is preposterous since you should be aware of when you are studying lol), it's probably been a couple of years.

I contemplated drawing those trees you find out in town that are stuck in those square patches of whatever but I though the Christmas tree was easier to bullshit bahahaha (especially when I realized I couldn't draw any of them).

Anyway, I'll try to get the quiz done by Wednesday.
Well, I kind of know what I want to do and I want to give you guys time, so if it's thursday or friday morning, that's cool. I won't be making the response video until friday evening anyway.

As for drawing with icons, I'm glad you see why observation is such a big deal. Of course, so is taking the things you already know and infusing them with the observations. Just observing isn't enough to allow you to draw something from any view and in any way you like. Observation teaches you the properties of the object. The other stuff we're doing with 3D shape gives you something to apply the properties to.

I look forward to seeing your quiz. I'll give more feedback on the opening task in the video. Hopefully I can get at least one more before friday.
Tayasu Sango's avatar

Sparkly Sweetheart

Errol McGillivray
Anyway, if you guys would like, I can just make week 4 the feedback and wrap up of week 3. I guess odd weeks are new material based on the previous week and even weeks are the feedback and wrap up. That gives you 2 weeks to do dailies. You're going to get more out of that than just one week. (And it gives me time to collect the things I need and go out to different locations to make the videos.)


Sounds good. 3nodding

Sent the quiz. Two emails because the first one had a mistake (both have the same file though).
Tayasu Sango
Errol McGillivray
Anyway, if you guys would like, I can just make week 4 the feedback and wrap up of week 3. I guess odd weeks are new material based on the previous week and even weeks are the feedback and wrap up. That gives you 2 weeks to do dailies. You're going to get more out of that than just one week. (And it gives me time to collect the things I need and go out to different locations to make the videos.)


Sounds good. 3nodding

Sent the quiz. Two emails because the first one had a mistake (both have the same file though).
Thanks. I responded with a question for you.

I found a great, live visual example that relates to your opening task. (I'm way too excited about it, but I think you'll find it really helpful.)
Tayasu Sango's avatar

Sparkly Sweetheart

Okay I don't think I understand what staging means (first time I've encountered the art term).

I was thinking that the second image was more dynamic because his head turned off to the side and it balances with the left arm closest to the viewer and then the other arm kind of has some perspective on it so it looks kinda smaller than the one in front of the viewer because it's farther away.

And then the first one has almost/pretty much his whole body facing the same direction and mild perspective since the other arm is behind the body but it isn't dynamic as it could be. Also applies to the third image.

But I'm not sure if this is what staging means? /hair pull classified_fu

I can't explain the difference in thrust and why the artist chose to make the drawings border-less either.

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