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Honestly what (in your opinion) would an independent party need to be like or do to get your vote?

i just wish we could choose more than red or blue...
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Wait for people to not be so polarized. People these days are extremes. I mean you can look at ED. People just take a side stick with it and get more extreme. Republicans will pick a side just because it is the Republican Side and vise versa. To weigh the choices effectively and consider each separate issue individually is not what people want.
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Wait for people to not be so polarized. People these days are extremes. I mean you can look at ED. People just take a side stick with it and get more extreme. Republicans will pick a side just because it is the Republican Side and vise versa. To weigh the choices effectively and consider each separate issue individually is not what people want.

nicely said
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Well for starters they would have to actually have a shot at victory for me to consider them. I heavily study the polls and and they would have to be polling strong to reassure me that my vote for that candidate would not be a waste. But an independent would also need to share my beliefs and values. That would mean being strongly pro-American and supporting economic and socially conservative policies. All of that is essential for a candidate on the state or federal level. On the local level, I am less ideological, and will definitely look into independent candidacies if no members of my party are on the ballot. But I am pretty set on my party and I could never vote against them if one is on the ballot, especially if it would mean letting the opposition win. My dislike of the opposition is too great to allow them into elected office. The intense polarization that has brought Washington to a bitter standstill has not just affected the politicians of the opposing sides. In the last four years I have become even more conservative, and even more of a harsher critic of liberals to where making sure they lose is key in my vote. Independents (and moderates) will never have a decent shot until this political polarization cools down some.
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Have you checked out Gary Johnson, candidate for the Libertarian Party?

He's on the ballot in forty-eight states, and is actually running strong in quite a few states, including swing states. I personally don't believe that a vote for the candidate you believe in is a wasted vote, even if they don't win. You stood up for your beliefs. I won't bash you for how you vote though, this is a free country after all. ^^ But I would highly suggest looking up Gary Johnson. In my opinion, he is by far the best candidate this year.
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Agreed whole heartedly. I cannot stand Obama or Romney really. I really wish there was a less extremist choice that chooses rights for all Americans but won't do dirty deals with other countries that ruin the USA.
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There are a great many people who will vote for Obama or Romney, just because they think one or the other is the "Lesser of two evils." Or they want to stick to their party, firmly believing that they're making the right choice without knowing the facts. I would suggest you click here and check him out. Might just find what you're looking for. 3nodding
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There are a great many people who will vote for Obama or Romney, just because they think one or the other is the "Lesser of two evils." Or they want to stick to their party, firmly believing that they're making the right choice without knowing the facts. I would suggest you click here and check him out. Might just find what you're looking for. 3nodding


Hmm, I like. Why have I never heard of him before?
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There are a great many people who will vote for Obama or Romney, just because they think one or the other is the "Lesser of two evils." Or they want to stick to their party, firmly believing that they're making the right choice without knowing the facts. I would suggest you click here and check him out. Might just find what you're looking for. 3nodding


Hmm, I like. Why have I never heard of him before?
Because he isn't included in a lot of polls, or because the media isn't giving him a fair shake, or because he isn't included in the debates because he's not polling at 15%, when most polls don't even include his name, etc.
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Well for starters they would have to actually have a shot at victory for me to consider them. I heavily study the polls and and they would have to be polling strong to reassure me that my vote for that candidate would not be a waste. But an independent would also need to share my beliefs and values. That would mean being strongly pro-American and supporting economic and socially conservative policies. All of that is essential for a candidate on the state or federal level. On the local level, I am less ideological, and will definitely look into independent candidacies if no members of my party are on the ballot. But I am pretty set on my party and I could never vote against them if one is on the ballot, especially if it would mean letting the opposition win. My dislike of the opposition is too great to allow them into elected office. The intense polarization that has brought Washington to a bitter standstill has not just affected the politicians of the opposing sides. In the last four years I have become even more conservative, and even more of a harsher critic of liberals to where making sure they lose is key in my vote. Independents (and moderates) will never have a decent shot until this political polarization cools down some.


Which came first - the chicken or the egg?

The only way for an independent to have a shot at victory for you to give them one. The way to ensure that an independent does NOT have a chance is for everybody to just sit around and wait until they have a chance. . .

And the only way to get more moderates into Congress is to get more moderate Americans to vote.

Obama promised the impossible - he promised a "trickle-down" method of changing Washington, yet the only true way is from the bottom up, through the American people.
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Well, I already have my perfect mix in the Libertarian party so...yeah.
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The problem with most third parties or independents is that they are shooting for the top. They know they won't win. The whole point is to gain funding and name recognition so they can win other elections (to congress, or in state and local elections).
Anyway the solution is not the emergence of a third party that can rival the Dems And Reps. Once the party got that big it would likely have the same problems. What most people voting for third parties really want is an end to the party system, For that we would need to have a large number of lower political offices filled by politicians not affiliated with parties or affiliated with third parties. Even then it is likely that instead of an end to the party system we would just have new parties replace the old ones (which happened in the past).
There are many long dead parties, but historically we always end up with two dominating politics.
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Because he's the Libertarian Candidate. Being a third party candidate for President, the media doesn't cover anything involving him. It's a shame, really. He was governor of New Mexico for two terms. He ran as a Republican there, in a state that is 2-to-1 democrat, and got elected as their governor twice. Turned around their economy and helped fix the state. Not to mention, I really like his views and policies.
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Also, Gary Johnson is the only third party candidate that will be in the polls in all fifty states. :3
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I would love to see the moderate and far extremes of both major parties break off and join parties that more closely reflect their agendas. This would temper the power of the crazies, and create a more enriching multiparty system.

In order for this to happen, one or both parties needs to be involved in a scandal or shame so deep and impacting that it causes stress fractures on the solidarity of the spectrum of people it represents. Once the evangelical christian right realizes they have nothing to do with fiscal conservatism or log cabin republicanism, and once the marxo-socialist left realizes that there's nothing left for them in the tepid moderate left democratic party, we can regroup and take up more accurate political identifiers. I'm talking like bigger than Watergate, though. Something HUGE with enough gravity to spin people out the sides.

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