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How do you feel about the next four years?

Optimistic 0.55633802816901 55.6% [ 79 ]
Pessimistic 0.11971830985915 12.0% [ 17 ]
Nuetral 0.15492957746479 15.5% [ 22 ]
Wish independents had more sway 0.091549295774648 9.2% [ 13 ]
He's black isn't he? 0.014084507042254 1.4% [ 2 ]
Huh? ... Wut? 0.063380281690141 6.3% [ 9 ]
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2012 Pre-Election Poll

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Obama's re-election/Widespread butt hurt

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-Obama did in fact win the election, as well as Ohio
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Let's just say every female that is undecided, on my FB that is, has had their PMs spammed with facts of how Romney will ******** them over...
A s t o r i a Edition
Let's just say every female that is undecided, on my FB that is, has had their PMs spammed with facts of how Romney will ******** them over...


Haha I'm glad to hear that!! I find it amazing that the polls with women are so close now after the first debate... I'm like, do they think because moderate mitt showed up instead of severely conservative mitt that his policies on women's rights magically changed as well?
S.Lyger
A s t o r i a Edition
Let's just say every female that is undecided, on my FB that is, has had their PMs spammed with facts of how Romney will ******** them over...


Haha I'm glad to hear that!! I find it amazing that the polls with women are so close now after the first debate... I'm like, do they think because moderate mitt showed up instead of severely conservative mitt that his policies on women's rights magically changed as well?


No. They're stating that the women are more concerned about the economy than fear mongering. And they're disappointed with Obama's performance.
Old Blue Collar Joe
S.Lyger
A s t o r i a Edition
Let's just say every female that is undecided, on my FB that is, has had their PMs spammed with facts of how Romney will ******** them over...


Haha I'm glad to hear that!! I find it amazing that the polls with women are so close now after the first debate... I'm like, do they think because moderate mitt showed up instead of severely conservative mitt that his policies on women's rights magically changed as well?


No. They're stating that the women are more concerned about the economy than fear mongering. And they're disappointed with Obama's performance.
Ok, lets pretend for a moment that Obama's record is actually bad, which is funny... But we're pretending right. Do we really think Romney has the answer to our problems when have his policies are on Bush's level if not further to the right. I mean he made a living shipping jobs overseas and destroying companies, does everything in his power to pay as little taxes as humanly possible and wants to deregulate wall street. Do we honestly think any of that will help the economy? Completely overlooking the around 5 trillion tax cut which he can't explain how to pay for.
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I Supported Obama the first time around and I will support him again. Maybe he wont win, and it's not the end of the world if he doesn't.
The Republican party is dead, the only question now is how far they drag us down on their way out.
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On one hand, we have the man who's reduced the deficit by 200 billion and caused the unemployment rate to drop.
On the other, we have a man that wants to go back to the plan that caused the 1.3 trillion dollar deficit and massive unemployment rate in the first place.



I feel that the choice is clear.

Ben Saladin
I Supported Obama the first time around and I will support him again. Maybe he wont win, and it's not the end of the world if he doesn't.
The Republican party is dead, the only question now is how far they drag us down on their way out.

I agree entirely.
With how their congress has been behaving, after Bush, nominating Palin, and now Romney, I have to say that Abraham Lincoln's party seems like it's on life support.
Ben Saladin
I Supported Obama the first time around and I will support him again. Maybe he wont win, and it's not the end of the world if he doesn't.
The Republican party is dead, the only question now is how far they drag us down on their way out.
They've lost it, the religious right has consumed the party entirely, lol moderate republicans been jumping ship all year.
Divine_Malevolence
On one hand, we have the man who's reduced the deficit by 200 billion and caused the unemployment rate to drop.
On the other, we have a man that wants to go back to the plan that caused the 1.3 trillion dollar deficit and massive unemployment rate in the first place.



I feel that the choice is clear.

Ben Saladin
I Supported Obama the first time around and I will support him again. Maybe he wont win, and it's not the end of the world if he doesn't.
The Republican party is dead, the only question now is how far they drag us down on their way out.

I agree entirely.
With how their congress has been behaving, after Bush, nominating Palin, and now Romney, I have to say that Abraham Lincoln's party seems like it's on life support.
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S.Lyger
Old Blue Collar Joe
S.Lyger
A s t o r i a Edition
Let's just say every female that is undecided, on my FB that is, has had their PMs spammed with facts of how Romney will ******** them over...


Haha I'm glad to hear that!! I find it amazing that the polls with women are so close now after the first debate... I'm like, do they think because moderate mitt showed up instead of severely conservative mitt that his policies on women's rights magically changed as well?


No. They're stating that the women are more concerned about the economy than fear mongering. And they're disappointed with Obama's performance.
Ok, lets pretend for a moment that Obama's record is actually bad, which is funny... But we're pretending right. Do we really think Romney has the answer to our problems when have his policies are on Bush's level if not further to the right. I mean he made a living shipping jobs overseas and destroying companies, does everything in his power to pay as little taxes as humanly possible and wants to deregulate wall street. Do we honestly think any of that will help the economy? Completely overlooking the around 5 trillion tax cut which he can't explain how to pay for.


Wait a minute. You're not listening to anything from any source other than the liberals, are you? First point, how is adding six TRILLION in debt in four years (more than Bush did in eight) saving us any money? It's record setting spending.
We're overlooking a 'most transparent administration', which immediately threw up a wall and blocked everyone out.
Bombing a country without congressional approval. Multiple times.
Using a drone strike to kill an American citizen without due process. Please name another president that has done that.
Or the fact that not once has Romney called for a five trillion dollar tax cut. But the left keeps tossing that lie out, and you guys just swallow anything Saint Obama says as gospel, even his lies.
Many of his policies have s**t all to do with what Bush did. But...if it worked once...lie and do it again?
He can't do much worse with the economy. The ONLY reason Obama's unemployment rate FINALLY, after four years, got below 8% is because California didn't report all their data. That was some special timing, wasn't it?
Fudge info much?
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Old Blue Collar Joe

Wait a minute. You're not listening to anything from any source other than the liberals, are you? First point, how is adding six TRILLION in debt in four years (more than Bush did in eight) saving us any money? It's record setting spending.
Please don't talk about the debt like you understand it. 'Cause you've made it pretty clear that you don't.


Oh, and as to your signature:
Carter added more than half as many jobs in his four years as Reagan did in his eight(Also known as more per year), and did so without blowing up the deficit.
Divine_Malevolence
Old Blue Collar Joe

Wait a minute. You're not listening to anything from any source other than the liberals, are you? First point, how is adding six TRILLION in debt in four years (more than Bush did in eight) saving us any money? It's record setting spending.
Please don't talk about the debt like you understand it. 'Cause you've made it pretty clear that you don't.


Oh, and as to your signature:
Carter added more than half as many jobs in his four years as Reagan did in his eight(Also known as more per year), and did so without blowing up the deficit.


You going to deny Obama took our debt from ten to sixteen trillion? Yeah, I confused the two words. Forgive me for over-working.
Carter was a ******** moron. He took us straight down the shitter. I will give Obama credit for having bigger balls than Carter. Old Peanuthead still can do nothing but pucker up and blame America for all the worlds ills.
Old Blue Collar Joe
S.Lyger
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S.Lyger
A s t o r i a Edition
Let's just say every female that is undecided, on my FB that is, has had their PMs spammed with facts of how Romney will ******** them over...


Haha I'm glad to hear that!! I find it amazing that the polls with women are so close now after the first debate... I'm like, do they think because moderate mitt showed up instead of severely conservative mitt that his policies on women's rights magically changed as well?


No. They're stating that the women are more concerned about the economy than fear mongering. And they're disappointed with Obama's performance.
Ok, lets pretend for a moment that Obama's record is actually bad, which is funny... But we're pretending right. Do we really think Romney has the answer to our problems when have his policies are on Bush's level if not further to the right. I mean he made a living shipping jobs overseas and destroying companies, does everything in his power to pay as little taxes as humanly possible and wants to deregulate wall street. Do we honestly think any of that will help the economy? Completely overlooking the around 5 trillion tax cut which he can't explain how to pay for.


Wait a minute. You're not listening to anything from any source other than the liberals, are you? First point, how is adding six TRILLION in debt in four years (more than Bush did in eight) saving us any money? It's record setting spending.
We're overlooking a 'most transparent administration', which immediately threw up a wall and blocked everyone out.
Bombing a country without congressional approval. Multiple times.
Using a drone strike to kill an American citizen without due process. Please name another president that has done that.
Or the fact that not once has Romney called for a five trillion dollar tax cut. But the left keeps tossing that lie out, and you guys just swallow anything Saint Obama says as gospel, even his lies.
Many of his policies have s**t all to do with what Bush did. But...if it worked once...lie and do it again?
He can't do much worse with the economy. The ONLY reason Obama's unemployment rate FINALLY, after four years, got below 8% is because California didn't report all their data. That was some special timing, wasn't it?
Fudge info much?


Lol so its all the left wing media huh? You needa stop watchn fox news it rots your brain. I've listened to romney speak, talking about cutting taxes 20% across the board. Every survey ever done thats not a republican institution has said it'll cost around 5 trillion, period... Secondly Obama's created jobs and lowered unemployment, why do all of Romney's policies come from George Bush and beyond... They won't tell us what deductions, or any specific really other than bullshit and cute stories about how he met people and s**t. Lets be honest, if you ever heard Romney speak anywhere ever before the first debate you know he was lying his a** off. Lol key example, the polls and the unemployment stats been cool the last four years but when the polls changed, they were rigged, when the unemployment dropped books were cooked. The republicans are full of s**t, they admitted openly to not letting fact checker decide their campaigns...

Btw just random question only somewhat related, are you rich?
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Old Blue Collar Joe
Divine_Malevolence
Old Blue Collar Joe

Wait a minute. You're not listening to anything from any source other than the liberals, are you? First point, how is adding six TRILLION in debt in four years (more than Bush did in eight) saving us any money? It's record setting spending.
Please don't talk about the debt like you understand it. 'Cause you've made it pretty clear that you don't.


Oh, and as to your signature:
Carter added more than half as many jobs in his four years as Reagan did in his eight(Also known as more per year), and did so without blowing up the deficit.


You going to deny Obama took our debt from ten to sixteen trillion? Yeah, I confused the two words. Forgive me for over-working.
Carter was a ******** moron. He took us straight down the shitter. I will give Obama credit for having bigger balls than Carter. Old Peanuthead still can do nothing but pucker up and blame America for all the worlds ills.
Fact check: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-57506201/national-debt-passes-$16-trillion-should-you-worry/

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