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ATG for dat a**.
Parallels for thighs.

I would say both are great depending on the purpose of your training.
what does atg mean?
'at the ground' implying going deep as possible? o.o


a** to grass. basically the same thing as at the ground
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In the gym I go to we don't even consider parallel a squat. Below or bust, imo.


mad respect for your signature pic. you look pretty beast!
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In the gym I go to we don't even consider parallel a squat. Below or bust, imo.


mad respect for your signature pic. you look pretty beast!

Thank ya. (: Working out is an addiction for me, lol.
The squat, when performed correctly, is the safest leg exercise for the knees. It also produces a more stable knee than any other leg exercise. "Correctly" is "deep." Deep is the hips dropping below level with the top of the patella. Correctly is full range of motion. A squat that is not deep is a "partial" squat. Partial squats are awful because they stress the knee and the quads without stressing the glutes (butt), the adductors (inner thighs) and the hamstrings (back of thighs). The hamstrings, groin muscles and glutes perform their function in the squat when the hips are stretched to the point of full flexion, where they get tight - the deep squat position. The hamstring muscles and the adductors reach a full stretch at the very bottom of the squat, where the pelvis tilits forward with the torso, stretching the ends of the muscles apart. At the stretched position they provide a slight rebound out of the bottom, which will look like a "bounce." The tension of the stretch pulls the tibia (shin bone) backwards, balancing the forward-pulling force produced by the quads, which pull from the front. The hamstrings finish their work, with help from the adductors and glutes, by straightening out the hip. In a partial squat, which fails to provide a full stretch for the hamstrings, most of the force against the tibia is upward and forward. This produces a forward-directed sliding force on the knee, with the tibia being pulled forward from the patellar tendon and without a balancing pull from the opposing hamstrings. This "shearing force" is the biggest problem with partial squats. It's the leading cause of patellar tendinitis (pain and swelling in the knee) in non-basketball players, but the majority of patients, thinking their poor form is actually correct, blame "squats" for their problems. Partial squats also cause problems because they help you move very heavy loads, due to the short range of motion and the greater mechanical efficiency of the quarter and half squat positions. This sets you up for back injuries as a result of the extreme back loading occurring when you put a weight on your back that could be up to three times the weight you can safely handle in a full squat. A lot of people are fond of partial squats as it allows them to claim 600+ lbs "squats." Your interest should be in getting strong, not playing silly number games. If you can't squat the weight below parallel, it's bad for your back.
I go all the way down keeping form and have an amazing workout.
As other people have stated before, ATG or bust. If you stop before going deep enough, it can put some serious strain on your knees instead of working out your muscles like it should be.
I personally think it has to do with how tall you are. Really tall people can cause injury to their back by trying to go too low, but shorter to average height people can go lower with less strain. Just my two cents.
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I typically only go to 90 degrees.
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They're both good, and muscles work will also depend on form, feet placement and such.

If you feel it in your inner leg, it could mean it's just the weakest part of your leg, or you're using that muscle to much.
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In the gym I go to we don't even consider parallel a squat. Below or bust, imo.


mad respect for your signature pic. you look pretty beast!

Thank ya. (: Working out is an addiction for me, lol.


same here. i do lots of reps though. like honestly i dont care about how much weight i do. i think benching 225 30 reps is better than benching 315 once. hahaha i cant do the other. i can bench 215 30 reps tho!
i was always told to squat as low as i could. it helps with explosion. and since im a basketball player, i need that explosion mrgreen
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I used to go parallel but recently I got a trainer (on a lot of meds now so I started gaining a lot of weight and because of the meds my balance and s**t are ******** so I need a trainer now, it sucks) and he told me to go as low as possible. With weight I can go all the way down and back up fine, I just never did it before. But I must say I am sorer the next day than I would be if I just went parallel.
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I say parallel. Going into a full squat (past parallel) puts significant pressure on your patellas, especially if weighted. This can cause fractures of the patella. Unless you are training for something that requires you to go into a full squat, I say do partial squats.

If someone is training jumping, they'll need to go into a full squat to active and therefore train there stretch-shortening reflex, but for the average person full squat training isn't necessary.
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I just did my squats when I saw this thread emo

I dunno, I've always had lower back problems so I try to avoid squatting too low. I let my butt touch the edge of a stool which makes me squat just a little below parallel.
The fear alone of having my back problems resurface scares me away from ATG's so I probably won't attempt them any time soon but I suppose if you have no problems where that is concerned, go for it.
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As low as you can. I can't really go as low though since I low bar squat.

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