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It's cute and popular! 0.25 25.0% [ 82 ]
Opposites attract 0.17682926829268 17.7% [ 58 ]
Because I like Naruto and/or Hinata 0.26219512195122 26.2% [ 86 ]
It's funny 0.060975609756098 6.1% [ 20 ]
Huh? 0.25 25.0% [ 82 ]
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um how many people you know in japan? i know 50 all are hinata and naruto fans. hinata is the idle japanese woman.


I'm going to be totally honest with this one.

First of all, I dont think you know 50 Japanese people.
Secondly, even if you do, and all of them like NaruHina that is a ridiculously small sample size and it's not a RANDOM sample for the population and is therefor meaningless in statistics.

And thirdly, that's just a little disgustingly sexist, but then, so is Japan at times. But Neji is much more of an ideal Japanese man than Naruto is. NejiHina fits the idea of the perfect Japanese marriage much more closely than NaruHina.
I'm no expert, but my 12 page Research paper on the Shinto religion and it's effects on Japanese culture did show me that much.

AND, once again: Who gives a ******** about fandoms? OroNaru can be the #1 couple in Russia, as I said, but that doesn't make OroNaru better.
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NaruSaku: Because pity and guilt should be the foundation of every relationship. <3333


NaruHina: Because When a girl likes a guy it's love, but when a guy likes a girl he's just being stupid.

Or how about NaruHina: It's all about the tit size.

Or NaruHina: Who gives a crap what Naruto feels?

Or maybe NaruHina: If he doesn't love you yet, just try and kill yourself for his attention.

Possibly NaruHina: Stalking and Fainting are love at it's finest.



fainting is funny as hell that is why thay make faint.

hinata does not try to kill herself of his attention it because she loves him and don't want to see him hurt.


You have to admit though- she did nearly get herself killed against Neji to get his attention.
And that does seem to be the only way that she GETS Naruto's attention, if only for a few minutes until the plot kicks in again.
no she wanted to change neji and stop him from hating her for something that was not her fault she felt sorry for neji she was trying to prove herself him to show him she is not weak. she stood up to him. she was try to do what naruto did to neji to show him fate is not real.


Hinata didn't give a crap about Neji. Show me one shred of evidence that she did. I adore NejiHina, I do, but Hinata is a selfish person. She didn't see, or didn't care the pain that Neji was in. Naruto did, but she did not.

Hinata's stand agaisnt Neji was about herself. She knew Naruto was watching and she wanted him to notice her. She wanted to show Naruto that she could be as brave as he was. It was stupid, it was rash, and it nearly got her killed for no good reason.
oh hell no she loves neji she calls him brother . by the way lee said naruto and hinata are very similar. you need to read chapter 80
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It's simple logic. If Hinata married outside of the clan, her surname would be changed, and she would produce no heir. The Main Branch would effectively cease to exist.

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um your thinking about chinese clan traditions not japanese japanese marry into an other powerful clan and unite the clans or marry who ever thay want if there from a noble family or sometimes a even a geisha can marry in to a noble house hold. In japanese society males should not marry females of the same surname (this has been largely disregarded recently as the japanese population has expanded to such an extent that people who hold the same surname might have little or no relation with each other at all). This is seen as incest and it is thought there is a risk that abnormal births might result. Marriage of a son to close relatives of his mother, however, is not seen as incest. Different clans might have more than one surname but thay can't marry a son that is a close relatives of his father. so no neji and hinata.



Consanguineous unions are common in Japan, and the risk of birth defects rises a very, very small amount.

And guess what? E ven if they DIDN'T have the blessing of the clan, I still think NejiHina would be adorable. Hinata is obviously the most important person around for Neji. I find it heart stoppingly adorable.
um wonder how old is the clan if thay being inbreading for ten generations thay would have massive defects


Well they are a large clan. And really, there's a lot of genetic variations, even among close family. In the average American family, any person and their second cousin are about as closely related as anyone on the street.

And you have to remember that the defect rule works both ways. While it does increase the risk that very rare BAD genetic traits will appear, it also increases the change that rare GOOD traits will appear.
neji and hinata are first cousins and there dads almost have the same dna because thay are twins.
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fainting is funny as hell that is why thay make faint.

hinata does not try to kill herself of his attention it because she loves him and don't want to see him hurt.


You have to admit though- she did nearly get herself killed against Neji to get his attention.
And that does seem to be the only way that she GETS Naruto's attention, if only for a few minutes until the plot kicks in again.
no she wanted to change neji and stop him from hating her for something that was not her fault she felt sorry for neji she was trying to prove herself him to show him she is not weak. she stood up to him. she was try to do what naruto did to neji to show him fate is not real.


Hinata didn't give a crap about Neji. Show me one shred of evidence that she did. I adore NejiHina, I do, but Hinata is a selfish person. She didn't see, or didn't care the pain that Neji was in. Naruto did, but she did not.

Hinata's stand agaisnt Neji was about herself. She knew Naruto was watching and she wanted him to notice her. She wanted to show Naruto that she could be as brave as he was. It was stupid, it was rash, and it nearly got her killed for no good reason.
oh hell no she loves neji she calls him brother . by the way lee said naruto and hinata are very similar. you need to read chapter 80


Reread Chapter 80.

Hinata calls Neji her brother because they are related, not because they are close. Never once does she acknowledge that Neji, too, has suffered. Not once. The entire chapter makes it very clear that this fight is all about HER. HER goals, HER pain and wanting to look good in front of Naruto. Pages 13 and 14 "He's finally watching me. In front of the person I admire, I can't look bad."

Yes, Lee says they are similar. In some ways, they are. In the really important ways? Not really. No one knows about the Fox at this point, Sasuke hasn't left yet. Some of the most important events in Naruto's life that shape him for ever into who he is, things that Hinata can not and does not relate to have no happened yet.

I also think it's completely ridiculous that Naruto doesn't let them end the fight. Hinata almost died there. If Naruto really cared about her, I think he would choose to stop the fight and not let her get any more hurt. Seems like a strange choice.
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It's simple logic. If Hinata married outside of the clan, her surname would be changed, and she would produce no heir. The Main Branch would effectively cease to exist.

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um your thinking about chinese clan traditions not japanese japanese marry into an other powerful clan and unite the clans or marry who ever thay want if there from a noble family or sometimes a even a geisha can marry in to a noble house hold. In japanese society males should not marry females of the same surname (this has been largely disregarded recently as the japanese population has expanded to such an extent that people who hold the same surname might have little or no relation with each other at all). This is seen as incest and it is thought there is a risk that abnormal births might result. Marriage of a son to close relatives of his mother, however, is not seen as incest. Different clans might have more than one surname but thay can't marry a son that is a close relatives of his father. so no neji and hinata.



Consanguineous unions are common in Japan, and the risk of birth defects rises a very, very small amount.

And guess what? E ven if they DIDN'T have the blessing of the clan, I still think NejiHina would be adorable. Hinata is obviously the most important person around for Neji. I find it heart stoppingly adorable.
um wonder how old is the clan if thay being inbreading for ten generations thay would have massive defects


Well they are a large clan. And really, there's a lot of genetic variations, even among close family. In the average American family, any person and their second cousin are about as closely related as anyone on the street.

And you have to remember that the defect rule works both ways. While it does increase the risk that very rare BAD genetic traits will appear, it also increases the change that rare GOOD traits will appear.
neji and hinata are first cousins and there dads almost have the same dna because thay are twins.


...I can see you have a good grasp on genetics. Identical Twins have COMPLETELY identical DNA. -rolls eyes-
Anyway, I like I was saying, that still doesn't change the fact that they are, socially and legally, cousins and consanguineous unions are not uncommon in their social structure.
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I see you've chosen the latter.

Because she's a minor character and minor character tend to have little or no characterization. Kishimoto needed a convenient reason to have Naruto go six-tails, so he had Pein take a stab at her after she confessed. If he had just killed Hinata without her confession, I doubt that would have been enought o send Naruto into a frenzy.
Hinata will either end up with Neji or disappear altogether. Trust me.

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Of course I chose the latter, I will always support NaruHina
I completely disagree with you except on the cofession part.But what i think is that Neji and Hinata is not that much of cannon if you noticed Neji knows Hinata's feelings for Naruto and supports them, then why would he want to take such happiness away from her >.>
minor character=/=characterization, especially in shounen
Well I would really love to stay and state my opinions on this shipping things, but I need to go out of town ugh.

(By the way I like the Chii photo, its cute)


(Ugh, I'm done stretching the page now)

Actually, Since Hinata's the female heir of the Hyuuga clan, she has to marry within the clan to keep the family name. It would only make sense that she be wed to Neji. Plus, it would be a great way of uniting the branches.

Fun fact that has absolutely no weight on my argument: NejiHina is the most popular Hinata ship in Japan.

Oh, and thank you. I was never really into Chobits until I met my bf. He makes me cosplay her. 4laugh
lol no it's not hinata and naruto is.


I've also heard that NejiHina is more popular in Japan.

But, honestly, who cares? Fandom is fandom. It wouldn't matter if Naruto/Orochimaru was the most popular couple in the fandom of Russia, that doesn't make it any more canon.
um how many people you know in japan? i know 50 all are hinata and naruto fans. hinata is the idle japanese woman.


No you don't. I'm willing to bet you know ONE guy who LOOKS asian at your school, but you're not sure, because you can never get your 13 year old weaboo lying a** out of your mom's basement and into the real world because you're too busy typing like a kid with severe down's syndrome and making up piss-poor arguments about why a fat chick with a total of 18 lines in the entire series should matter to Naruto.
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(Ugh, I'm done stretching the page now)

Actually, Since Hinata's the female heir of the Hyuuga clan, she has to marry within the clan to keep the family name. It would only make sense that she be wed to Neji. Plus, it would be a great way of uniting the branches.

Fun fact that has absolutely no weight on my argument: NejiHina is the most popular Hinata ship in Japan.

Oh, and thank you. I was never really into Chobits until I met my bf. He makes me cosplay her. 4laugh
lol no it's not hinata and naruto is.


I've also heard that NejiHina is more popular in Japan.

But, honestly, who cares? Fandom is fandom. It wouldn't matter if Naruto/Orochimaru was the most popular couple in the fandom of Russia, that doesn't make it any more canon.
um how many people you know in japan? i know 50 all are hinata and naruto fans. hinata is the idle japanese woman.


No you don't. I'm willing to bet you know ONE guy who LOOKS asian at your school, but you're not sure, because you can never get your 13 year old weaboo lying a** out of your mom's basement and into the real world because you're too busy typing like a kid with severe down's syndrome and making up piss-poor arguments about why a fat chick with a total of 18 lines in the entire series should matter to Naruto.
god you really hate hinata the girl is not fat at all.
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(Ugh, I'm done stretching the page now)

Actually, Since Hinata's the female heir of the Hyuuga clan, she has to marry within the clan to keep the family name. It would only make sense that she be wed to Neji. Plus, it would be a great way of uniting the branches.

Fun fact that has absolutely no weight on my argument: NejiHina is the most popular Hinata ship in Japan.

Oh, and thank you. I was never really into Chobits until I met my bf. He makes me cosplay her. 4laugh
lol no it's not hinata and naruto is.


I've also heard that NejiHina is more popular in Japan.

But, honestly, who cares? Fandom is fandom. It wouldn't matter if Naruto/Orochimaru was the most popular couple in the fandom of Russia, that doesn't make it any more canon.
um how many people you know in japan? i know 50 all are hinata and naruto fans. hinata is the idle japanese woman.


No you don't. I'm willing to bet you know ONE guy who LOOKS asian at your school, but you're not sure, because you can never get your 13 year old weaboo lying a** out of your mom's basement and into the real world because you're too busy typing like a kid with severe down's syndrome and making up piss-poor arguments about why a fat chick with a total of 18 lines in the entire series should matter to Naruto.
I am 21 and work at inport company. I travel to japan and china a lot to see the latest trends and what may sell good in the u.s. So i work with japanese and chinese people all the time. ******** i even help started a store called animezing escape by going to japan and buying manga movies and anime in bulk heck i get pocky for the store.mesuinu
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(Ugh, I'm done stretching the page now)

Actually, Since Hinata's the female heir of the Hyuuga clan, she has to marry within the clan to keep the family name. It would only make sense that she be wed to Neji. Plus, it would be a great way of uniting the branches.

Fun fact that has absolutely no weight on my argument: NejiHina is the most popular Hinata ship in Japan.

Oh, and thank you. I was never really into Chobits until I met my bf. He makes me cosplay her. 4laugh
lol no it's not hinata and naruto is.


I've also heard that NejiHina is more popular in Japan.

But, honestly, who cares? Fandom is fandom. It wouldn't matter if Naruto/Orochimaru was the most popular couple in the fandom of Russia, that doesn't make it any more canon.
um how many people you know in japan? i know 50 all are hinata and naruto fans. hinata is the idle japanese woman.


No you don't. I'm willing to bet you know ONE guy who LOOKS asian at your school, but you're not sure, because you can never get your 13 year old weaboo lying a** out of your mom's basement and into the real world because you're too busy typing like a kid with severe down's syndrome and making up piss-poor arguments about why a fat chick with a total of 18 lines in the entire series should matter to Naruto.
I am 21 and work at inport company. I travel to japan and china a lot to see the latest trends and what may sell good in the u.s. So i work with japanese and chinese people all the time. ******** i even help started a store called animezing escape by going to japan and buying manga movies and anime in bulk heck i get pocky for the store.mesuinu


Who gives a s**t? Even if that is true, which I honestly doubt, what does it have to do with ******** anything?

As I said, 50 people, 50 non-random people at that, is completely meaningless in statistics.

And the fandom doesn't affect canon.

And honestly, if you WERE 21, you might be able to spell "import" and "amazing" correctly.
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1) How does your job fit in with naruhina?

2) If you have such an important job why the hell can't you spell??
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As much as I adore NaruHina, it's obvious that NaruSaku is becoming canon to fans who actually read the chapters with open eyes (much like myself). And even if by some twist in fate, leaps in the space-time continum, or rips in the fabric of reality made NaruHina canon, it would be canon extremely stupidly. Because, let's face it, the foundation of NaruHina was NOT laid out properly. Many NaruHina fans would beg to differ, but, with no perverse intentions, the manga is clearly circulating around Team Seven AND NaruSaku (or possibly NaruSasu). Hinata just doesn't fit in the plot this time around AND it would be a stupid move to suddenly fit her in instead of gradually bringing her in the picture.

In the manga, I dislike NaruHina for the lack of development (because there is only very little) and because of the suddenness of her confession. Yes, I know that Hinata was depicted showing concern for Naruto's well-being, but there was no development before that towards their romantic relationship. It there had been, I would be staunchly defending NaruHina right now, but unfortunately, there hasn't been. There was no Team Eight arc before the confession, only two or three (most likely one) meetings with Hinata (and both times she fainted, which is actually starting to piss me off), no development of any kind and then WAM! Confession!

I myself am tolerant as to how the confession was made but that doesn't change the fact that, because there was no development on Naruto's part before it, this confession was for ending the whole NaruHina vs. NaruSaku dispute and for at least SOME development on Hinata's part after such a long time (anyone here think Kishimoto regrets Hinata's characterization?).

And wow, as I'm writing this, I'm really starting to hate Hinata. The actual Hinata. In fanfiction, she becomes a better character (and stronger too, for that matter) visibly in front of the audience (in the few good fanfictions). But that's just fandom. Canon Hinata, I've come to JUST realize, only has development in the Chuunin arc. That's it. It's like Kishi regretted making her, realized he could have just had Sakura (or anyone else) hurt in order for the arc to work out perfectly (maybe even better) and decided to let her drift into the background (thinking no one would notice).

Dear Lord! The more I write, the more I'm starting to hate Hinata and NaruHina (and surprisingly prefer NaruSaku). I mean, even after I've been defending the two, I've to slowly realize how much I truly despise them both.

I think I've become a NaruSaku fan...
During the last few chapters, I became so happy. Especially when Sakura was crying because of what Sai had said. When she OBVIOUSLY (even a blind man could tell) took clear into her heart that Naruto indeed loved her. I found myself happy and rooting her on. Oh and that hug she gave Naruto when he had returned to the village! My God, I felt like I was emotionally cheating on NaruHina. Everything about that scene was so beautiful. The way they were drawn, Sakura's punch of concern (hehe, I loved that), then the way she grabbed onto him and said "Thank you". I actually think that he didn't return her hug because she was in shock. After such an ordeal (and the punch), he receives a hug from the girl he loves. That probably shocked him. But made him feel good inside. 4laugh

That's it, I've turned to the darkside. Sorry NaruHina fans! I've been rereading the chapters and realized just how much I really liked/loved Sakura and NaruSaku.
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Well Maya I am sorry but you fail at adoring NaruHina,
anyways there is this rant in a NaruHina guild, my friend made it and I want you all to read just scroll down, and you will see it
http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?page=1&t=15598463#198926213

NaruSaku doesn't work without Sasuke 8D
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Well Maya I am sorry but you fail at adoring NaruHina,
anyways there is this rant in a NaruHina guild, my friend made it and I want you all to read just scroll down, and you will see it
http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?page=1&t=15598463#198926213

NaruSaku doesn't work without Sasuke 8D
..How can you fail at liking something? That makes no sense.
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First, I have a ton of respect for Kishi. And he has always displayed a good deal of respect for the characters, story, and, yes, the fans. The story always demanded that Naru/saku must be resolved one way or another. And all Kishi is showing us now is that he isn’t afraid to tackle it head on. Perhaps subtlety would have pleased you, but it would have been unfair to his Naru/saku fans who do believe in the pairing and fully expect it to happen to just let it fade into nothing. I'd be very upset if he treated Sasusaku that way. And as much as I dislike narusaku, Kishi has put some things in the manga that could be hints for Naru/saku. Naruto's lingering crush post time skip, the POAL, Sakura's tears while going after Naruto in fox state, Yamato's unfinished sentence.... that's not much, but I also don't think, Kishi included those things for the lolz.

Not much? Naruto's Promise of a lifetime, the entire plot of the manga since the moment Sasuke left, isn't much? This little rant starts out with severe misinterpretations on the manga already.


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If you were Kishi, you would want to avoid building up a strong fanbase for the very pairing you intend to destroy. But how do you slowly and gently let down fans who support Narusaku without adding fuel to the fire? You most destroy Naru/saku in a way that doesn't leave one of them (Naruto, Sakura, Hinata, or Sasuke) looking bad or only settling for a consolation prize. The main thing that must happen is that Naruto's feelings get closure. However there are at least two major problems.

The thing is, I'm not Kishi. Neither is this guy.
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1. If that closure happened after Sasu/saku or after Hinata's confession it makes it look like Naruto is only settling. No matter how much Naruto might protest, no matter what reason Naruto gives, no matter what his relationship with Hinata becomes, some will always say he was settling and it gives people a reason to attack Naru/Hina.

Um....that and the fact that Naruto still loves Sakura, as is canon fact.

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Which is why I see it that he's been slowly fazing out Naruto's romantic overtures towards Sakura, and all the moments with any romantic potential have been quickly defused usually by humor or talk about Sasuke. I don't think it's an accident that with all the panel time and all the opportunities to be alone together without Sasuke there have been no serious moments between the two (that didn't focus on Someone else), no heart to heart conversations, and barely any physical contact (unless you count punches).

No serious moments? Sakura running to Naruto, tears streaming down her face as he turns Kyuubi wasn't serious? Sakura, rushing to Naruto after he comes back from Pain, hugging him, cupping his cheek and whispering Thank you wasn't serious? This guy has some serious reading comprehension problems.

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2. The next problem you face as Kishi is that Naruto's goals and the theme of the manga demands that Sakura must acknowledge Naruto. Having her acknowledge him is easy. Having her acknowledge him without turning it into fuel for Narusaku is another.

Sakura acknowledged Naruto waaaay back even before the Chuunin exams.
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Now Kishi has clearly showed at various times Sakura cares about, and respects Naruto but before the moment of her really acknowledging it, Kishimoto chose to add this little teeny, tiny, hardly noticeable moment. What this does to the story is to destroy any buildup Naru/saku might have had. At the worst possible moment for narusaku the confession put the spotlight on Hinata right before kishi has Sakura acknowledge Naruto. By contrast it appears quite insignificant. And the very next panel shows Hinata, who, unlike all the other rookies isn't standing with her teammates. This focus is all on her. In my opinion this is Kishi's silent way of assuring us he hasn't forgotten her confession and he doesn't want the reader to forget about it either.

Or maybe if was Kishi's way of saying "Hey look! Hinata got her character growth and now we're moving onto NaruSaku. Even hinata looks happy about it."
If we REALLY want to look at contrasts look at the difference between Naruto being told Hinata loves him (One panel of surprise and then never mentioning it again) and Sakura being told that Naruto loves her (Two chapters of reflection)
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Now to address recent chapters, I still don’t think Kishi is leading us to Narusaku. What I think he's doing is killing two birds with one stone. First showing us Sakura's weaknesses in order for her to confront them so she can move past them, and two he's laid narusaku on the table to be dissected address all the narusaku moments/theories/arguments in order to destroy them before he can move on to making other pairings cannon. I cannot see this leading to Narusaku, because there are just too many holes. It doesn't make sense as good writing. And I've learned to expect from kishi good writing.

This idea that the last 200 chapters of gradual NaruSaku development has been made in order to discredit NaruSaku is ridiculous.
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Why has Kishi revealed this flashback to us so soon after Hinata’s confession? It’s not a coincidence. All of you who went “WTH?? What about Hinata?” I think that’s exactly how kishi wanted his readers to react. Even non-shipping fans will have that in the back of their mind. The fact that he hasn't resolved this yet is horrible news for Narusaku. As a writer it makes no sense to develop and then leave unresolved two pairings, only to bring in a third pairing out of the blue and make it cannon. Kishi has to either resolve naru/hina and sasu/saku first, and then make naru/saku cannon, or resolve naru/saku first and then make naru/hina and sasu/saku cannon.


Kishimoto doesn't have to do anything with NaruHina because Hinata is not a major character. She had her character development. Itjust wasn't important enough for Naruto to go back and comment on.

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The Flashback:

If the flashback is to lead to Narusaku, why isn't Naruto or Sakura involved??? Why is it Sai, uninvolved third party, who's having the flashbacks which Naruto has never even thought about.


Because Kishimoto is an author. Authors have ways of having many characters work together so the plot makes sense.

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If the flashback is leading to Narusaku, why is it only shown in a flashback? Kishi has never been afraid of reviewing things we've already seen, over and over if need be. Why didn't he show us the actual event? Why does it take place so long ago when Kishi could have inserted this moment at any time?


Because this is a Shounen manga. Because as a flashback we are able to be shown this AFTER the confession, this reminding us all that "Oh yeah, Hinata confessed, but Naruto still doesn't love her."

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Sai’s mistakes:

Notice first that Sai has subtly rephrased what Naruto said. Sai implies that Naruto is chasing Sasuke because of his promise, but Naruto in Sai’s flashback said he wasn’t pursuing Sakura because of his promise. Notice the difference? All of you worried that Kishi has undermined Naruto’s and Sasuke’s bond for narusaku romantic bond in these past chapters, relax. Nothing Naruto said placed narusaku above his relationship to Sasuke. What Sai said does, even with his backtrack I still think he’s giving too much credence to the POAL. Which is why I conclude Sai is at least partly MISTAKEN.

Partly, yes. But then Sizune goes and corrects him. See, this is about Kishimoto writing a story. He's having many characters all bring these things together. It's amazing, I know. Writers, it's like they are magicians.

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One of the very reasons I dislike Narusaku is because it's way too easy, it's too convenient. It seems to me Kishi thinks so too because he has purposefully defined it through Sai in terms of the level of happiness it brings. Sai’s whole basis of understanding Naruto's feelings for Sakura were that happiness (ie: smiles) equal love. This is contrasted very sharply to their bond with Sasuke just as it's becoming harder and which promises no rewards of happiness and is in fact a source of pain. In a perfect world love would always lead to greater happiness, but things aren't perfect. It’s been emphasized over and over that love is a two edged sword. Love isn’t rainbows, and skipping off into the sunset. Real love is often the source of pain and suffering. It's the mother who gets up at three to feed a crying baby every night, the parents who cry over a runaway child, or the pain of loosing someone precious. If the message kishi is trying to get across is that love should be dropped when things get hard and painful then they should give up on Sasuke. But I don't believe it. It's through the storms and the fire that their bond with Sasuke is strengthened because it demands a complete and utterly selfless love from them, agape love. If that's bad then their bond with Sasuke is bad too. They should just forget him and be happy together.


Basically this guy dislikes NAruSaku because it's too CANON.

Naruto and Sakura aren't perfectly happy around each other. Their love isn't simple and easy. It's befuddled by Sasuke and the pain he's caused, by their own personal inexperience with love and their own fear of loosing their friendship to a relationship.

Once again, this is just basic reading comprehension skills.

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Sakura's reaction and development:

A lot of you might take offense to this next point but Sai is NOT responsible for Sakura’s reaction. You can’t blame him for making her feel guilty. People feel guilty only if there is something for them to feel guilty about, real or imagined. If Sakura had a completely clean conscience Sai’s words would no more unnerve her then if he was accusing her of being the third hokage in disguise. When people attack her for her reaction or attack Sai for making her react this way you miss the point. Her reaction, as I see it, is about Sakura’s own feelings of guilt about Naruto's promise to bring Sasuke back. Sure, she's heard Naruto defend going after Sasuke based on other reasons, but she worries that Naruto is doing it for her on some level. This isn't the first time that we've seen Sakura feeling guilty about the poal. This is the first and the second time is this oft misconstrued scene when Sakura saw Naruto in fox mode for the first time while chasing Sasuke. That guilt has never been addressed, only buried. It seems like digging it up was the first step to Sakura's development. In order for Sakura to grow she must face this. In one move kishi has taken the exact same theory narusaku used in support of its pairing, that Naruto is doing everything for Sakura's sake, and made it into something negative if true. In fact, far from bringing Naruto and Sakura closer together the POAL has become a source of guilt and separation between them. On Sakura's part, she feels guilt that he might be doing the very thing Narusaku hopes he is. And on Naruto's part feeling like he failed her. Laying to rest any silly notions that the Poal was narusaku development. Now the beauty of it is, if right, and this scene was about guilt and not because she suddenly felt a burst of romantic love for Naruto, then that destroys the narusaku misinterpretation of this scene. Yamato couldn't possibly have been referring to love, he was only trying to assuage her guilt.


Why can't it be both? I mean, honestly. Sakura cares about Naruto, and having it thrown in her face that she's hurting him really upset her.
There's a lot Kishimoto can do with this.
Like..."Naruto, you can't keep chasing Sasuke for ME. Dont you understand? Sasuke is important to both of us, but he's not the only one important to me."

This guys is complaining that NaruSaku is too easy, and then when he's shown that it's really NOT too easy he acts like thats a bad thing. Double standards.

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Even though I disagree with some of what Sai said, I think he got some things right. It's not that Sakura hasn't tried to save Sasuke, but has she given it her all like Naruto? It isn't that Naruto told the others he'd take care of everything, but that they let him. If people allowed him, I really think Naruto would try to do everything by himself. It's the same problem Sasuke sometimes has. IMO because of their similar backgrounds of growing up with no one to rely on Naruto and Sasuke became very independent. They both like to take things in their own hands. But at least Sasuke constantly pushed Naruto and Sakura to improve. Naruto doesn't ask the same thing of Sakura and Sai, content to do everything himself. But that doesn't mean the others are free to sit back and let Naruto. Hinata didn't. Some hold her in contempt for it, I think Hinata will be validated for that choice as people see the others follow her lead. It seems Shikamaru is already thinking along these lines.


Sajura has run to Naruto's aide before. Sakura has pushed herself to get better for Naruto before. Several times. Before and after the time skip, she vowed to be stronger so she could help and she rushed to NAruto's aide when he needed it.

I blame this paragraph on selective reading.

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Final Thoughts

Kishi is free to do whatever he wants. It's his manga. If he does make NS cannon I'll be disappointed, but I fully admit that most of the preceding is based on guessing kishi's intentions which rests on my interpretation of the manga. If my interpretation is wrong, then most of my points are moot. My interpretation requires that not only is kishi attempting make two pairing with characters who get very little interaction cannon, but all the while having one member of each pair of the opposite gender interact together on a daily basis without giving rise to romance. Few writers would stack the deck so strongly in their disfavor. However, despite the fact that Sasuke and Sakura have only seen each other once in all of part two, and despite Naruto and Hinata's lack of panel time both pairings are very alive and strong. Narusaku for all of its panel time and interactions isn't near as big as it ought to if that was really the writer’s intention. But perhaps this just says something about the inherit weakness of the pairing itself, (like katang) proving that it just doesn't work. Or perhaps it's because we're interpreting the story the way the author intended.


Kataang? Oh yes. PLEASE compare NaruSaku to Kataang again. Kataang, that is canon. Kataang that the Zutara fans bashed and flamed and screamed it's-not-canon until the bitter end over.

Because NaruSaku is like Kataang- totally and completely obvious to anyone who just frikkin looks.


I'm not impressed by this rant. It's full of misinterpretations and faulty logic. Next please

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