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Well I didn't mind Tauriel. She's a tough fighter, and even she's young she shows more backbone in the movie than Legolas does most of the time.
But it's true that especially the scene after healing Kili disrupts the flow a bit.
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It doesn't bother me that much, its just the world Tolkien has created. He really introduced us to high fantasy, so I can forgive him for not also trying to make women have an equal role in his books. I think Peter Jackson has done his part to strengthen the role that the few women had in the book without changing a lot. There may not be many of them, but I like them. While I appreciate more equality for women, I don't demand they have an equal place in every story, and particularly not retroactively. I'm sure there are many other fantasy stories that are weighted more towards male or female characters.


I couldn't agree more. I'm a feminist through and through, but that doesn't mean I need every single one of my films to be chock full of women. I love the Tolkien books. I also love books with strong female leads. But I don't just ingest non-male things. In fact, I thought Tauriel was well done. She wasn't just a pretty face. The fact that Peter Jackson helped create her, carries on the tradition he has kept up in the lord of the rings.

Lady Galadriel is an extremely powerful female character in the LOTR that many characters default to when decisions are to be made. As were Arwen and Eowyn.

But I don't think it is wrong to feel that women were poorly represented in DOS. It's good that people take note of their absence! But don't let it ruin the experience for you.

No feeling is wrong. Like or dislike what you want =) What is important is that people talk about it.
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That elvish woman isn't even the original Tolkein book The Hobbit so be glad!! xp
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I think her character is strong in its own right and elves are supposed to be beautiful anyways, so I have no issues with her. I think her budding relationship with a certain other is really cute heart I like a bit of romance hehe.
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You also have to keep in mind the era that the Hobbit takes place in: Medieval era or before. In medieval times, men went to war and women stayed home and cared for the children. Having female warriors was either extremely rare or extremely forbidden by law, culture, or both. If you look at several different cultures around the world, this has been the case for most of their existence. So, it is sexism, but it is sensibly accurate.
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yeah it's cos of sexism and bullshit. note token black characters in laketown scene.
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The Hobbit is pretty great. But was anybody else a bit uncomfortable with the fact that there's only one named female character in the film (and none in the book, I think) and that she's written in a way that makes her main character trait 'being super beautiful'?

I know the film is based on a book that was written when there was no concern about women's representation in popular culture, so maybe that excuses the film? I don't know. It made me uncomfortable.

Otherwise, it's an excellent film, I think.


Actually the original Hobbit story was a sausage fest.
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Well on one hand the cultures of most of the races in the hobbit/LoTR very much reflected the times in which the books were written: the basic gender roles idea (i.e., male elves generally are the ones that go into battle whereas females are the healers, etc etc) so it is just being true to the books. HOWEVER, I actually just got out of another thread where somebody was upset that they changed some aspects in the movie to be more politically correct (not about women though, it was something about dwarves), so I say if they can change one thing to be politically correct, why not another?
It didn't really make me uncomfortable though, I understand that they're just trying to stay true to the books, but the one thing that did kind of upset me is how Tauriel (and don't get me wrong, I love her as a character) is introduced, and she's this lovely strong female elf character, and of course from the second she's introduced her main focus is romance. It starts off with Legolas' unrequited love and then she's thrown into this love triangle with Kili. I really found it to be unnecessary, and I would have enjoyed the movie so much more without her romantic interests being mentioned at all
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Well on one hand the cultures of most of the races in the hobbit/LoTR very much reflected the times in which the books were written: the basic gender roles idea (i.e., male elves generally are the ones that go into battle whereas females are the healers, etc etc) so it is just being true to the books. HOWEVER, I actually just got out of another thread where somebody was upset that they changed some aspects in the movie to be more politically correct (not about women though, it was something about dwarves), so I say if they can change one thing to be politically correct, why not another?
It didn't really make me uncomfortable though, I understand that they're just trying to stay true to the books, but the one thing that did kind of upset me is how Tauriel (and don't get me wrong, I love her as a character) is introduced, and she's this lovely strong female elf character, and of course from the second she's introduced her main focus is romance. It starts off with Legolas' unrequited love and then she's thrown into this love triangle with Kili. I really found it to be unnecessary, and I would have enjoyed the movie so much more without her romantic interests being mentioned at all

Anyways I apologize for that rant, it kind of went off topic but like the poster above me mentioned, there weren't really that many female characters in the book. It's just another "staying true to the books" thing
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Wait a moment? There was a female character in a movie? Didn't notice that.
Thorin and his warrior drarfes were so cool and hot that I didn't even care about the women lol

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Doesn't bother me at all.

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