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The one I've heard of.

Which means niether.

HAHA. Misspellings make me l-a-u-g-h.
Operation Ivy was an influential ska punk band that originated from the East Bay of San Francisco. The band consisted of frontman Jesse Michaels (vocals), Tim Armstrong (Credited as "Lint" wink (vocals/guitar), Matt Freeman (Credited as Matt McCall) (bass/backing vocals), and Dave Mello (Drums/backing vocals). Their name was derived from the Operation Ivy series of nuclear tests; the name was one of many previously abandoned by another Gilman band, Isocracy.


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History
The band existed between May of 1987 and May of 1989, as was chronicled in the lyrics of Rancid song "Journey to the End of the East Bay", which appeared on Rancid's ...And Out Come the Wolves:

Started in '87 / Ended in '89 / You got a garage or an amp, man we'll play anytime / It was just the four of us, / Yeah man, the core of us, / Too much attention unavoidably destroyed us

Their first show was performed on May 16, 1987 in Dave Mello's garage. The next day began a tradition of performances at the Berkeley ska/punk collective center 924 Gilman Street. They began playing a lot of gigs which led to their almost immediate cult-following. Later in 1987 they made their debut on a Maximum Rock'n'roll compilation called "Turn it Around". In January 1988, they signed to Lookout! Records, and released Hectic, their first E.P., which became one of Lookout!'s strongest sellers. By this time Operation Ivy (along with Crimpshrine and The Mr. T Experience) was the most popular GilmanBerkeley Punk bands. They began getting many gigs and set out on a tour across The United States. By mid 1988 they began selling out larger areas, and the pressure to sign to major labels began to rise. They released 'Energy on Lookout! Records in May 1989. The band broke up the same month, and their last official show was on May 28, 1989. It was also Green Day's first show with the name "Green Day" at Gilman, at what was supposed to have been their release party. They played one more show the following day, mainly for friends and family, in Robert Eggplant's backyard in Pinole, California. In two years, the band had performed 185 shows and recorded a total of 28 songs.

The lyrics and tone of Operation Ivy's music portray a youthful desire for social justice and a strong distrust of mainstream or conformist culture.

Green Day did a cover of the Operation Ivy song "Knowledge" on the 1,039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours album and to this day play the song at every show, calling members from the audience to play the drums, guitar, and bass, with frontman Billie Joe Armstrong singing. They tend to make the song last for about ten minutes, supposedly so people can go to the bathroom or have a smoke break. Many other artists have covered Operation Ivy songs: Reel Big Fish covered "Unity", Area-7 covered "Healthy Body", No Trigger covered "Caution", and Millencolin as well as The Aquabats and Evergreen Terrace (band) have all covered "Knowledge". It is not uncommon for Rancid to play a few Operation Ivy songs at their shows.

In 1991, after their breakup, Lookout! put together a compilation consisting of the Energy album, the Hectic ep, and songs from compilations. It was released as a complete discography (sometimes referred to as a re-release of the Energy album). It contains 27 songs, following the band's recorded history.

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Post-Operation Ivy careers
Two of their members, Armstrong and Freeman, also perform(ed) with the bands Rancid (their current, and biggest project), Basic radio, Downfall, Dance Hall Crashers, Shaken 69, and The Devil's Brigade. Armstrong also went on to form The Transplants. Additionally, Freeman has performed with Auntie Christ, Generator, MDC, and Social Distortion.

Mello went on to perform with Schlong, and currently The Bowel-Tones and Jewdriver.

There was a great deal of speculation regarding the fate of Michaels. Legend had it that he had moved to Nicaragua or became a Buddhist monk. Michaels eventually resurfaced into the music world with a project band, Big Rig, and later with a more active band, Common Rider, which included bassist Mass Giorgini (producer and bassist for Squirtgun and occasionally Screeching Weasel) and drummer Dan Lumley (of Squirtgun and Screeching Weasel). Common Rider released two full-length albums and did some nationwide touring in the United States before eventually disbanding.

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Leaving Lookout!
On 4 May 2006, it was announced that Energy had officially been removed from Lookout! Records' catalog. The album had been, after Green Day's first two albums, the label's biggest-selling album. Following such bands as Green Day, Screeching Weasel, The Queers and Ted Leo and the Pharmacists, Operation Ivy is the latest in a series of bands who have left Lookout! in recent years and taken back the rights to their back catalog due to unpaid royalties.[1] No label has yet picked up the distribution rights for the album, and a reunion of the band is not planned for anytime in the future


NOFX


Country San Francisco, California, USA
Years active 1983 – Present
Genres Skate punk, Ska punk, Pop-punk, Hardcore punk
Labels Epitaph, Fat Wreck Chords
Members Fat Mike
El Hefe
Eric Melvin
Erik Sandin
NOFX is a punk band from Los Angeles, California, USA, formed in 1983, by singer/bassist "Fat Mike" (Real name Mike Burkett), drummer Erik Sandin and guitarist Eric Melvin. Since 1991 and after several line-up changes, El Hefe (Real name Aaron Abeyta) plays second guitar and trumpets. The band's sound is diverse, utilizing elements of skate punk, ska punk, pop-punk, hardcore punk and more. The songs of the band generally address issues such as politics, society, racism, the music industry, religion sometimes using a high amount of comedy.



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Name
The root of their name is derived from the Boston, Massachusetts hardcore band Negative FX as mentioned on the official NOFX site. The band's 1992 release, White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean, has a comical, "Lounge Act" cover of Minor Threat's "Straight Edge".

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Career
NOFX's first release was a demo from 1983, produced by Germs drummer Don Bolles, which did not sell any copies. They released their self-titled debut EP NOFX on Mystic Records in 1985, which later resurfaced in 1992 on the Maximum Rocknroll CD.

For a year, Erik Sandin left the band and was replaced by Scott Sellers, then Scott Aldahl. Dave Allen was with the group for about 4 months until he died in a car accident. In 1986 the band released "So What if We're on Mystic!" Dave Casillas joined the band on second guitar in 1987 and was featured on the EP The P.M.R.C. Can Suck on This!, a title attacking the PMRC's call for censorship of music. The original cover was an edited S&M photo, but when re-released changed to a photo of Eric Melvin.

Dave then left the band and was replaced by Steve Kidwiller (also known as Steve the Caucasian). They recorded Liberal Animation in 1988 with Brett Gurewitz from Bad Religion. The album was re-released in 1991 on Gurewitz's label Epitaph Records. NOFX had signed to Epitaph by 1989, releasing their second album S&M Airlines. 1990 saw the release of Ribbed in which the band solidified their sound.

By 1991, there had been a lot of changes to the band. However, the original three members had reunited and Aaron Abeyta (aka El Hefe) joined to round out the present line-up. White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean was released in 1992 which originally had the title "White Trash, Two Kikes, and a s**c." The original title was changed due to the fact that "[...] my mom had heard about it and she told my grandpa and my grandma became very upset and I just couldn’t live with that" (Eric Melvin, http://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com/oldint/flipside97.html).

It was not until the 1994 release of Punk in Drublic that the band had a popular breakthrough. The album went gold. In the same year pop-punk entered the mainstream with The Offspring's Smash and Green Day's Dookie. NOFX never matched the popularity of the other bands, but are among those who achieved some popular acclaim in the mid-1990s and still kept their hardcore fanbase who reviled other bands that were perceived as sell-outs.

Since 1994, they have consented to very few interviews and have made only few music videos. However, Fat Mike once did an interview for Guitar World in 2003 giving his opinion on the pop punk bands rising at that time. Fat Mike was also interviewed by Australian radio station Triple J in 2004. Their official website features a Q&A section, where they answer questions sent in by fans. Updates have not occurred to the Q&A section, but the archives can still be browsed. NOFX have continued to release independent records throughout their career. An extensive, nearly 20 page interview was done for a 2003 issue of AMP Magazine. Recently Fat Mike wanted to do another interview and he chose the punk magazine Big Cheese to cover him. The interview is about S&M, his wife, punk pop bands and NOFX' music. The band released The Decline, a fiery and pessimistic social commentary, in 1999. Having a duration of 18 minutes and 23 seconds it is nearly the longest punk song to date, second only to "Yes Sir, I Will" by Crass, which spans more than 22 minutes.

In 2003, NOFX released a CD entitled War on Errorism, an album of snarky political songs. It became the start of their anti-Bush campaign and a rallying point for liberal punks. Since the CD's release, Fat Mike organized the website Punkvoter.com, compiled two chart topping Rock Against Bush CDs on the Fat Wreck Chords label, and kicked off a Rock Against Bush nationwide tour. Their emergence on the political scene has not faded after the election.

The band has also released many EPs (******** the Kids, The Longest Line) on Fat Mike's own label Fat Wreck Chords. In February of 2005 they launched the NOFX 7" of the Month Club, a subscription-based service which saw the release of one new EP about monthly from February 2005 to March 2006 (a total of 12 releases). The cover art for these 7-inches were chosen from fan-submitted entries, from which the band selected one submission for each month's record. Billed as "A year long documentation of their songwriting process," the first 3000 subscribers to the club received all of their records on coloured vinyl.

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