I need help deciding on what car to get as my second

Which car should I get?

Nissan 350z	0.0%	[ 0 ]
2003 BMW Z4	0.0%	[ 0 ]
2004 BMW 5 Series	60.0%	[ 3 ]
1970's Toyota Celica	40.0%	[ 2 ]
Total Votes:			[ 5 ]

[Envy Avenue]

I know these cars aren't exactly in the same class, but I can't choose between them!
Which car is the most head turning for a young person to drive?

[outthisbitch]

Lets not focus so much on looks so much as what you want out of the car. If looks is something youre big on, you can probably pick up a Honda Prelude or Del Sol for a good price, or an old Mazda MX6. Theres plenty to choose from.

[lux occulta]

Drop the two BMs as both will be mobile money dumps.

A list of issues for both the E85 and E60 BMWs.

E85 Z4(2003)
-Convertible top motors are prone to failure in the 02-05 model years.
-Power steering steering electrical shutdowns.
-M54 and N46 series engines are prone to oiling issues.
-Both manual and SMG boxes have bad reverse gears.
-Trunk seals on the 04-06 model year models are prone to leaking when the roofs up.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.

E60 5-Series
-TCM and PCM failure
-Battery cables failure
-Heated seats failure
-Fuel pump, regulator, injectors, and rails are prone to failure.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.
-Rad fans fails often
-Maintenance is required on a regular basis.

[Envy Avenue]

lux occulta

Drop the two BMs as both will be mobile money dumps.

A list of issues for both the E85 and E60 BMWs.

E85 Z4(2003)
-Convertible top motors are prone to failure in the 02-05 model years.
-Power steering steering electrical shutdowns.
-M54 and N46 series engines are prone to oiling issues.
-Both manual and SMG boxes have bad reverse gears.
-Trunk seals on the 04-06 model year models are prone to leaking when the roofs up.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.

E60 5-Series
-TCM and PCM failure
-Battery cables failure
-Heated seats failure
-Fuel pump, regulator, injectors, and rails are prone to failure.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.
-Rad fans fails often
-Maintenance is required on a regular basis.

Damn.

[lux occulta]

Leonidas The Tightest

lux occulta

Drop the two BMs as both will be mobile money dumps.

A list of issues for both the E85 and E60 BMWs.

E85 Z4(2003)
-Convertible top motors are prone to failure in the 02-05 model years.
-Power steering steering electrical shutdowns.
-M54 and N46 series engines are prone to oiling issues.
-Both manual and SMG boxes have bad reverse gears.
-Trunk seals on the 04-06 model year models are prone to leaking when the roofs up.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.

E60 5-Series
-TCM and PCM failure
-Battery cables failure
-Heated seats failure
-Fuel pump, regulator, injectors, and rails are prone to failure.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.
-Rad fans fails often
-Maintenance is required on a regular basis.

Damn.

These German cars aren't for the faint of heart.

[Envy Avenue]

lux occulta

Leonidas The Tightest

lux occulta

Drop the two BMs as both will be mobile money dumps.

A list of issues for both the E85 and E60 BMWs.

E85 Z4(2003)
-Convertible top motors are prone to failure in the 02-05 model years.
-Power steering steering electrical shutdowns.
-M54 and N46 series engines are prone to oiling issues.
-Both manual and SMG boxes have bad reverse gears.
-Trunk seals on the 04-06 model year models are prone to leaking when the roofs up.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.

E60 5-Series
-TCM and PCM failure
-Battery cables failure
-Heated seats failure
-Fuel pump, regulator, injectors, and rails are prone to failure.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.
-Rad fans fails often
-Maintenance is required on a regular basis.

Damn.

These German cars aren't for the faint of heart.

And I am in no position to have expensive BMW maintenance! What about an Audi TT? I know they're unreliable, but I'm wondering what common problems are.

[lux occulta]

Leonidas The Tightest

lux occulta

Leonidas The Tightest

lux occulta

Drop the two BMs as both will be mobile money dumps.

A list of issues for both the E85 and E60 BMWs.

E85 Z4(2003)
-Convertible top motors are prone to failure in the 02-05 model years.
-Power steering steering electrical shutdowns.
-M54 and N46 series engines are prone to oiling issues.
-Both manual and SMG boxes have bad reverse gears.
-Trunk seals on the 04-06 model year models are prone to leaking when the roofs up.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.

E60 5-Series
-TCM and PCM failure
-Battery cables failure
-Heated seats failure
-Fuel pump, regulator, injectors, and rails are prone to failure.
-Hideously expensive parts that are hard to find.
-Rad fans fails often
-Maintenance is required on a regular basis.

Damn.

These German cars aren't for the faint of heart.

And I am in no position to have expensive BMW maintenance! What about an Audi TT? I know they're unreliable, but I'm wondering what common problems are.

The whole list of issues are below.

-Cooling system parts failure
-Transmissions in non-quattro models are s**t
-TCM and PCM failures
-A/C issues
-Master cylinder failures
-Warped brake rotors
-Complete electrical system failures
-Fried wiring harness
-Haldex Traction "quattro" controller failure
-Rear differential housing in quattro models are prone to cracking
-Rear shocks/spring are made from paper.
-Manual transmission models will need a total rebuild after 100k miles.
-brake lines bursting under heavy braking
-Clutches that are prematurely wearing out.
-Power steering leaks
-Head, valve, oil pan, and exhaust manifold gaskets failure in turbo models.
-Running lean in high rpms
-oil return lines turbo coking up
-Timing belts prone to snapping
-Coil packs known for premature failure
Parts are also expensive and it'll need your constant attention if you get a typ 8N TT.

[Envy Avenue]

lux occulta

Wow. I am definitely leaning toward a 350Z now! Anything wrong with them?

[Chron0s]

Hugh Girection

Lets not focus so much on looks so much as what you want out of the car. If looks is something youre big on, you can probably pick up a Honda Prelude or Del Sol for a good price, or an old Mazda MX6. Theres plenty to choose from.

How are any of those Hondas even on the same plain as a 350Z or a classic Celica? Del Sol? Wut?


"Let's not focus so much on looks, just get a Honda."

[outthisbitch]

Chron0s

Hugh Girection

Lets not focus so much on looks so much as what you want out of the car. If looks is something youre big on, you can probably pick up a Honda Prelude or Del Sol for a good price, or an old Mazda MX6. Theres plenty to choose from.

How are any of those Hondas even on the same plain as a 350Z or a classic Celica? Del Sol? Wut?


"Let's not focus so much on looks, just get a Honda."

I never even saw where a 350z or Celica were mentioned in the first post.

[lux occulta]

Leonidas The Tightest

lux occulta

Wow. I am definitely leaning toward a 350Z now! Anything wrong with them?

-broken trunk dampers
-broken gas door
-broken cup holder
-gears grinding on the 6 speeds
-window not rolling up all the way
-airbag warning light
-speakers blown/static
-compression rod bushing failure causing misalignment of the suspension.Pre-04 models only
-crank and cam sensors go bad fairly often
-Windows motors fail often
-oil burning
-rpm surge
-MAF sensors fail
-Rear suspension bushing
-Nissan paint
-seats are crap
-clutch slave cylinders
-Brake master cylinders
-brake rotors warping
-alternators are a common weak point

[Chron0s]

Hugh Girection

Chron0s

Hugh Girection

Lets not focus so much on looks so much as what you want out of the car. If looks is something youre big on, you can probably pick up a Honda Prelude or Del Sol for a good price, or an old Mazda MX6. Theres plenty to choose from.

How are any of those Hondas even on the same plain as a 350Z or a classic Celica? Del Sol? Wut?


"Let's not focus so much on looks, just get a Honda."

I never even saw where a 350z or Celica were mentioned in the first post.

Check the poll at the very top of the page, sir.

[Chron0s]

lux occulta

Leonidas The Tightest

lux occulta

Wow. I am definitely leaning toward a 350Z now! Anything wrong with them?

-broken trunk dampers
-broken gas door
-broken cup holder
-gears grinding on the 6 speeds
-window not rolling up all the way
-airbag warning light
-speakers blown/static
-compression rod bushing failure causing misalignment of the suspension.Pre-04 models only
-crank and cam sensors go bad fairly often
-Windows motors fail often
-oil burning
-rpm surge
-MAF sensors fail
-Rear suspension bushing
-Nissan paint
-seats are crap
-clutch slave cylinders
-Brake master cylinders
-brake rotors warping
-alternators are a common weak point

Do you work at a shop? I think your information might help me out quite a lot. Can I add you?

[lux occulta]

Chron0s

lux occulta

Leonidas The Tightest

lux occulta

Wow. I am definitely leaning toward a 350Z now! Anything wrong with them?

-broken trunk dampers
-broken gas door
-broken cup holder
-gears grinding on the 6 speeds
-window not rolling up all the way
-airbag warning light
-speakers blown/static
-compression rod bushing failure causing misalignment of the suspension.Pre-04 models only
-crank and cam sensors go bad fairly often
-Windows motors fail often
-oil burning
-rpm surge
-MAF sensors fail
-Rear suspension bushing
-Nissan paint
-seats are crap
-clutch slave cylinders
-Brake master cylinders
-brake rotors warping
-alternators are a common weak point

Do you work at a shop? I think your information might help me out quite a lot. Can I add you?

Unfortunately no but I do get my info from my mechanic friends.

You can add me but may not be able to give you all info that you need/want.

[outthisbitch]

Chron0s

Hugh Girection

Chron0s

Hugh Girection

Lets not focus so much on looks so much as what you want out of the car. If looks is something youre big on, you can probably pick up a Honda Prelude or Del Sol for a good price, or an old Mazda MX6. Theres plenty to choose from.

How are any of those Hondas even on the same plain as a 350Z or a classic Celica? Del Sol? Wut?


"Let's not focus so much on looks, just get a Honda."

I never even saw where a 350z or Celica were mentioned in the first post.

Check the poll at the very top of the page, sir.

Ah, I see now. If OP has that kind of money, Id go with a 300zxTT.