Gundam Ace
Twistex
Gundam Ace
Millefune
Fox2102
Yeah you do a little under hood work to that 5.0 and that thing will fly. I mean hell you can strip them down to the frame pretty much.
You do even less work under the hood to an LS or HEMI engined car, and it will fly even more. I mean Hell, you can strip anything down to the frame pretty much.
Its all in the way you look at it, you are comparing a semi-modern carbureted/injected car with a 5.0 L sized engine with 225 hp stock vs a modern 5.7 L runnin a healthy 300-350 hp. I also own an 89 Mustang, Ive done quite a bit to it just below the point of aluminum heads or forced induction, Im guessing an honest 240-250 hp (never dynoed). Ive walked with newer Z28s and Trans Ams and held back. If I had had a hot 351 or a stroker equivalent to an LS engine, of course I woulda stood on it. At the time I just didnt really wanna read the guy's rear plate
You've done quite a bit to it, and still only push 240-250?
That's not right. A new set of pistons and headers have shown dyno results of 80+ bhp in a windsor 5.0.
Hell, even from stock, a new intake and carb, with a proper tune should net you more than 240bhp. s**t, I've seen carb spacer plates that added 12bhp/8ft-lbs on an SBC, and with the windsor being as stock-restrictive as it is, you should get comparable gains.
Methinks you've got something wrong there. Did you drop the A/C? Accessories are power leeches.
I know they are leeches, ive dropped the AIR pump but have everything else, the things you are saying are true, however i do not have new pistons, i know it would help. My car is fuel injected, and fuel injected 5.0 engines came stock with 225 hp, cherry and tuned. But, most stock, worn in fuel injected 5.0s nowadays push 190 average with stock equipment, starting from there you can see how 250 would be a noticeable improvement. I dont know why, but fuel injected 5.0/5.8 engines are alot harder to squeeze the numbers out than carbureted engines. A friend of mine has the same base engine as i do, roller 5.0 with mild cam, long tube headers... HE has a high rise 4 bbl intake and carb, and he estimates 280. With daily drivers you have to fight tooth and nail to get the numbers as im sure you know, cant afford the downtime or big bucks in pistons, heads, etc to reach 300-350+ hp. I know it sounds off for my car to have such a 'low' number, but its just hard to make the big jump in power without alot of downtime and $$$$
Damn, my V6 mustang pushes more than that.
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Didn't know the injected ones suffered that much from age. (I'm a carbuerator kind of guy.)
The windsors are a strong base, but the stock equipment is extremely restrictive. Improving flow in/out adds a lot to the engines, hence why they're cheap fun for the strip. Bolt on packages for intake, exhaust headers, a mild cam, and they start growing quite well.
If that's an 89-series engine, then you're on a throttle body injection system, correct?
In that case, the same general rules apply. Increase flow. A larger TB, CAI and maybe a TB spacer, followed with headers, low restriction pipes, cats and mufflers, and you should get much better gains. I usually say "Do those first" because those systems will affect the gains from your other systems. After that, then if you're looking at valvework, cam increase, pistons, then I'd look at larger injectors. (they aren't really needed until you're pushing over 300, usually.)
It's a standard "ford issue". They make the intake and exhaust restrictive as hell for some godawful reason. The Windsor and Cologne engines have the same issues.
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