Avacyn, Angel of Hope reveal.

[Demonic_Horde1]

I was wrong there is a New Blue planeswalker

But I could be right - about a U/R still waiting on the other one to show.

And for SCG most people in my local event do trade - But they claim every card they own is NM by value even beat to s**t so I don't normally trade with them.

Then I have a few people that jump around with different value's from other sites.. Meh I miss the Scrye day's yes bit OP too.

[Timid Coronet]

I cant wait till it gets the call for the edh ban hammer because 1 time warp effect after the ultimate and you take infinite turns.

[ROD-MEJ]

Avacyn: Good for EDH, Bad For Standard due to its high mana cost and the lack of Hexproof D:

[Liberi Glacialis]

Demonic_Horde1

I was wrong there is a New Blue planeswalker

But I could be right - about a U/R still waiting on the other one to show.

And for SCG most people in my local event do trade - But they claim every card they own is NM by value even beat to s**t so I don't normally trade with them.

Then I have a few people that jump around with different value's from other sites.. Meh I miss the Scrye day's yes bit OP too.

Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded is the new Red Planeswalker in Avacyn Restored. So, probably no U/R one in this set. But we are returning to Ravnica in the next block...

Timid: Are you sure? -8 is 4 turns away (ignoring Proliferate), and Planeswalkers tend to be lightning rods in EDH.

[finaubles]

theres no such thing as a bad card. if you can put it into a deck and get the deck to win about 60% of the time wouldnt it be good? stoneforge mystic originally sucked in standard because there was no good equipment around at the time. then the swords pop up and its price goes up and up. theres no such thing as bad cards; just bad players.

[LiaThistle]

finaubles

theres no such thing as a bad card. if you can put it into a deck and get the deck to win about 60% of the time wouldnt it be good? stoneforge mystic originally sucked in standard because there was no good equipment around at the time. then the swords pop up and its price goes up and up. theres no such thing as bad cards; just bad players.

Aven Envoy.
Entropic Specter.
Merchant Ship.
Rabid Wombat.
Shieldsphere.
Wall of Wood.

None of those cards are good cards without outside support. Heck, the outside support required may not even let the deck work.

They're bad cards.

[RedComet01]

I'm not saying it's impossible to deal with this card. I'm not saying that once someone plays this card they're guaranteed to win the game. But still, it seems like Wizards of the Coast went overboard in how much power they packed into this one card.