The 8 mana cmc stops it from doing any real damage in standard and don't forget that decks playing vaporsnag/mana leak are already doing a number on said format.
The 8 mana cmc stops it from doing any real damage in standard and don't forget that decks playing vaporsnag/mana leak are already doing a number on said format.
For me it proves to be somewhat mean to my Red/Black vampire deck.
Vamps should kill long before they reach 8 mana, or your going to lose that game anyway. (also tragic slip deals real well with this card and Vampires is running it anyway).
I am quite disappointed in the card. It doesn't even seem Legacy playable in Reanimator (better targets, plus most of the removal for high toughness critters exiles anyways).
Yea, Def killer for edh, but I see other reanimator targets to be way stronger. Iona ect are simply stronger. I still like the makeshift mannaquin/emrakul/oonas prowler reanimator (but I think just hard casting it or cheating it in with through the breach are both stronger lines). Maybe some kind of gifts package in tron, but path seems to make this one irrelevant in modern.
Maybe one of the other reanimator targets will make it into an older format, but avacyn seems best in a Kaalia edh deck. (well actually that seems like the best fit ever for it)
She's gonna be sweet in casual and might see constructed play in post-rotation reanimator but for the most part is too easy to deal with and doesn't do anything if you can't untap with her.
I don't see why people think she's bad.. I mean, look at it thru math..
Let's say that each mana for the cmc is a (-1) and that each P/T is (+1).. right out of the gate she evens out.
Then give plus +1 for each positive ability and -1 for each dumb negative ability. She has flying , Vig and gives everything else you control indestructability. So she's (+3).
Efficiency isn't the question, the cost matches the effect. The CMC being 8 means it being played as an honest wincon is almost out of the question. Yes its worth the 8 mana your paying for it. 8 is simply asking too much in a titan format. The worst part of this equation is we are very much in a format defined by Delver of secrets and it will either be mana leaked or vapor snagged. 8's asking for a lot and while this is worth the mana its simply not good enough (without cheating it into play). Frights playing this on turn 3 is pretty sick but its still to fragile right now.