Are there still no rumors of Chaos update? (Warhammer 40K)

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a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

[Victoria kreuz]

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a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

i'm hoping 6th edition will make sense, i know it wont

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Victoria kreuz

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Itherial

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Itherial

a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

i'm hoping 6th edition will make sense, i know it wont

They never do, thus coming back around to the derailment of just going to WARMACHINE fully.

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Itherial

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Itherial

a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

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Itherial

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Itherial

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Itherial

a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

That's why I was saying third, because things where simplified somewhat but still had things worth playing instead of how the absolutely butchered psychic powers in the 4th Ed.

[Victoria kreuz]

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Itherial

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Itherial

a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

I'd acctualy like the play fantasy but noone here likes it

[Itherial]

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a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

That's why I was saying third, because things where simplified somewhat but still had things worth playing instead of how the absolutely butchered psychic powers in the 4th Ed.

I believe I still have my 3rd edition book some where...I sold my 4th since I knew someone didn't know about the change. I don't know when they are going to change it this year so I will keep it for tournaments and my random casual games against my brother.

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Victoria kreuz

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Itherial

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Itherial

a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

I'd acctualy like the play fantasy but noone here likes it

Well, my fiance plays Skaven, but we live in Minnesota...

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Itherial

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Itherial

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Itherial

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

That's why I was saying third, because things where simplified somewhat but still had things worth playing instead of how the absolutely butchered psychic powers in the 4th Ed.

I believe I still have my 3rd edition book some where...I sold my 4th since I knew someone didn't know about the change. I don't know when they are going to change it this year so I will keep it for tournaments and my random casual games against my brother.

Awesome. Yeah, I think I'm going to dissect the rules and make a d20 system for 40K. ******** those shitty d6.

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Itherial

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a long time ago they had rules for chaos guard army with demons, cultists and the such. It was either a pdf or a white dwarf article but they had a whole harlequin army pdf too that was in a white dwarf back in 3rd edition but the models they had for them were out of print so they cost $50 for 5 or 6 models.

There was so much in 3rd that made more sense than they do now. I wish GW would pull their heads out of their collective rectums.

I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

I'd acctualy like the play fantasy but noone here likes it

I have like 60 Skeletons, 5 Black Knights and 3 Vargheists to paint. I might buy the new Starter box for Vampire Counts or some blood knights...both cost about the same.

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I converted Eldar, dark elves and dark eldar to be my quin and painted in really bright colors but the point value of the models were so out there that I only needed a few models ( their jet bikes were great since they had an invulnerable save ).

That's my kind of s**t! Hell, I'm tempted to start a new thread for boiling down all of the useful rules and pretty much re-write the whole ******** rule book to have Warhammer 40K: Awesome Edition.

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

That's why I was saying third, because things where simplified somewhat but still had things worth playing instead of how the absolutely butchered psychic powers in the 4th Ed.

I believe I still have my 3rd edition book some where...I sold my 4th since I knew someone didn't know about the change. I don't know when they are going to change it this year so I will keep it for tournaments and my random casual games against my brother.

Awesome. Yeah, I think I'm going to dissect the rules and make a d20 system for 40K. ******** those shitty d6.

Well that would probably make the game a whole lot different. I wouldn't know where to start myself.

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Itherial

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Itherial

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Itherial

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

That's why I was saying third, because things where simplified somewhat but still had things worth playing instead of how the absolutely butchered psychic powers in the 4th Ed.

I believe I still have my 3rd edition book some where...I sold my 4th since I knew someone didn't know about the change. I don't know when they are going to change it this year so I will keep it for tournaments and my random casual games against my brother.

Awesome. Yeah, I think I'm going to dissect the rules and make a d20 system for 40K. ******** those shitty d6.

Well that would probably make the game a whole lot different. I wouldn't know where to start myself.

Here's an idea; keep the point-values the same for unit-cost, then increase the base values of each unit two-fold and add another two points to them to balance for the d20's. This will make armor saves more important and rolling a natural 20 will pretty much permit anything to make a successful hit. Also, this would give tanks normally with armor of 14 an armor value of 30. This is much more realistic as even tanks from WWII made small-arms look laughable, thus rockets and plasma weapons gain more value.
Of course, this will have to be play-tested and some values re-tweaked...

[Itherial]

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Itherial

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Itherial

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Itherial

Well 2nd edition was very complicated and they wanted a younger generation to play...That is why not as many people play fantasy because it is harder to play. You have to worry about movement trays and formations, shooting rules are more complicated, strength lowers armor saves, adding up armor to see how much a unit has since you can go past 2+ but you always fail on a 1 and pass on a 6. Magic is harder then physic powers and you randomly get magic spells...........I could go on but Warhammer 40k is more simple since 3rd edition.

That's why I was saying third, because things where simplified somewhat but still had things worth playing instead of how the absolutely butchered psychic powers in the 4th Ed.

I believe I still have my 3rd edition book some where...I sold my 4th since I knew someone didn't know about the change. I don't know when they are going to change it this year so I will keep it for tournaments and my random casual games against my brother.

Awesome. Yeah, I think I'm going to dissect the rules and make a d20 system for 40K. ******** those shitty d6.

Well that would probably make the game a whole lot different. I wouldn't know where to start myself.

Here's an idea; keep the point-values the same for unit-cost, then increase the base values of each unit two-fold and add another two points to them to balance for the d20's. This will make armor saves more important and rolling a natural 20 will pretty much permit anything to make a successful hit. Also, this would give tanks normally with armor of 14 an armor value of 30. This is much more realistic as even tanks from WWII made small-arms look laughable, thus rockets and plasma weapons gain more value.
Of course, this will have to be play-tested and some values re-tweaked...

Melta would get some bonus against tanks though. Have to work that in.

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Itherial

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Itherial

I believe I still have my 3rd edition book some where...I sold my 4th since I knew someone didn't know about the change. I don't know when they are going to change it this year so I will keep it for tournaments and my random casual games against my brother.

Awesome. Yeah, I think I'm going to dissect the rules and make a d20 system for 40K. ******** those shitty d6.

Well that would probably make the game a whole lot different. I wouldn't know where to start myself.

Here's an idea; keep the point-values the same for unit-cost, then increase the base values of each unit two-fold and add another two points to them to balance for the d20's. This will make armor saves more important and rolling a natural 20 will pretty much permit anything to make a successful hit. Also, this would give tanks normally with armor of 14 an armor value of 30. This is much more realistic as even tanks from WWII made small-arms look laughable, thus rockets and plasma weapons gain more value.
Of course, this will have to be play-tested and some values re-tweaked...

Melta would get some bonus against tanks though. Have to work that in.

Shouldn't be too hard, I'll go over the rules and mess with the whole damn thing.