Elraine Figarette
David2074
Well, okay then.
I guess sponsor confidentiality is good to a point but when it starts to involve multiple felonies with minors it only goes so far.
Also, don't forget boys and girls -
She was drunk so could not have consented to any of that so it isn't her fault and everyone else are the bad guys in this story. So yay! She's not a bad mom after all.
smile The 18-year-old was consensual... but she
woke up to her daughter's boyfriend going at it with her. She was literally asleep for that bit so...yeah, that's rape. Not that she didn't do about a million other incredibly wrong things here, but that's pretty clearly rape.
Agreed about the 18 year old.
The 16 year old - fuzzy.
I get what you are saying and I agree that strictly speaking initiating sex with someone while they are asleep (especially for the first time) is rape.
(I say for the first time because some married couples / partners enjoy waking up to the other person doing stuff to them but in that case both partners know that so it is consensual)
But the waters are muddied a bit by the fact that she apparently got that 16 year old drunk by hosting and supplying the alcohol and sent possibly very confusing messages for a young horny boy by getting naked with them, having sex with others, masturbating in front of them and who knows what else she said and did. Yes, he should have woken her up first (or not had sex at all) but one can see where the kid may have been a bit confused.
And that of course is assuming what she said is true. As you noted, intercourse with the 18 year old is legal. Sex with the 16 year old could send her to prison as a sex offender on top of all the other charges. She has strong motivation to claim she had nothing to do with it and she just woke up to him inside of her. I realize that may be true but if they press charges against the teen then there is a good chance in court it will come down to a he said / she said kind of thing for the jury and her credibility is spread rather thin.
Unless of course the boy readily admits he intentionally took advantage of her.
But if you take the stance that people can not consent when they were drunk, and if the boy was drunk, and he was drunk because she got him drunk (illegally) then at least some of the responsibility falls back on her.
Having sex with sleeping people is wrong
Having sex with drunk people is wrong
Getting people drunk to have sex with them is wrong
Getting minors drunk is wrong
Both people drunk is - confusing
In a way it is kind of an interesting one for the courts because it is a couple of different rape situations combined.