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Post: 92224419_16 created on Mon, 26 May 2014 04:33:49 +0000
Posted: Mon, 26 May 2014 04:33:49 +0000

I do have some chalk in my inventory, so that is a possibility for what I got from my tentacle too. But I wasn't paying that much attention. =

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Post: 92224419_17 created on Mon, 26 May 2014 08:09:15 +0000
Posted: Mon, 26 May 2014 08:09:15 +0000

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I do have some chalk in my inventory, so that is a possibility for what I got from my tentacle too. But I wasn't paying that much attention. =

Well chalk can be obtained from daily chance and as a bonus craft. I do have the same problem of determining where I got this one so I didn't bother adding it on the eldritch drop for fear of miscount.

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Post: 92224419_18 created on Mon, 26 May 2014 09:15:14 +0000
Posted: Mon, 26 May 2014 09:15:14 +0000

You can get Illiaster from Dark Matter.

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Post: 92224419_19 created on Mon, 26 May 2014 10:10:31 +0000
Posted: Mon, 26 May 2014 10:10:31 +0000

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You can get Illiaster from Dark Matter.

Thanks, now dark matter can produce two items, lapis lazuli and illiaster

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Post: 92224419_20 created on Mon, 26 May 2014 21:10:29 +0000
Posted: Mon, 26 May 2014 21:10:29 +0000

I also received Ashes after crafting Lidlenovo.

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Post: 92224419_21 created on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 08:40:48 +0000
Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 08:40:48 +0000

From a design standpoint.... it probably is like this:

Craft Recipe:
Chance of bonus item (0.1-12%???)
Rarity of Item crafted (Set group of drops) OR Specific recipes assigned tags that denote group of bonus items or singular bonus item.
Specific Item crafted (+Bonus item to group of drops) (Using the grenade launcher as reference.)

Group of drops:
Philosopher's Cache items???
Store Alchemy items???
All items appear to be alchemy ingredients except the specific item bonuses. (like the grenade launcher?)

3rd potential outcome is:
Recipe is given:
Success: Standard success
Bonus Success: Standard success + bonus item (est 12%)
Critical Success: Standard success + rare bonus item (est 0.1%?)

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Post: 92224419_22 created on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 14:36:00 +0000
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Interesting input. I'd like to know how you came up with the numbers? sweatdrop

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Post: 92224419_23 created on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 15:17:39 +0000
Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 15:17:39 +0000

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12% is usually the odds on stuff like this (since people said about 1/10. It's usually a hair more than 10% chance.

And for something to be rare, it has to be less likely than 10% of the standard bonus, and that's usually how drops round out in other games. So it just settles about there when designers plot out numbers...

Mostly it's just educated guess combo random numbers.

Like, there can only be a few feasible ways to design it and those seem to be the best ways.

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Post: 92224419_24 created on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 15:30:03 +0000
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12% is usually the odds on stuff like this (since people said about 1/10. It's usually a hair more than 10% chance.

12.5% is exactly 1/8, so that's why that's common.

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Post: 92224419_25 created on Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:33:19 +0000
Posted: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:33:19 +0000

well, this happened to me earlier xD

however, i don't remember if it was consecutive fails or successes beforehand.

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Post: 92224419_26 created on Wed, 04 Jun 2014 01:35:24 +0000
Posted: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 01:35:24 +0000

I just got Honey Liqueur as a bonus item from crafting Ambrosia. I failed the craft once, and then succeeded on the second try and got the bonus item.

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Post: 92224419_27 created on Wed, 04 Jun 2014 05:51:42 +0000
Posted: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 05:51:42 +0000

Okay I got my very first bonus item today
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It was my second craft of this item in a row (Third in total, with three formulas between the first and last two.)
For the formula's done in a row it took two chances then I got the bonus item on a first craft success. I'm at level 7, was using this formula to level. If that helps any.

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Post: 92224419_28 created on Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:17:07 +0000
Posted: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:17:07 +0000

I crafted my first Uranium Biscuits (needed really many tries to get it) and once I successful crafted it I got one Harmless Spores sweatdrop

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Post: 92224419_29 created on Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:49:34 +0000
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I'm curious: Is the level of the alchemist a factor at all at getting a bonus item? To clarify, are the majority of bonus items granted to those that are above the level of the formula or at the level of the formula?

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Post: 92224419_30 created on Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:31:33 +0000
Posted: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:31:33 +0000

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I'm curious: Is the level of the alchemist a factor at all at getting a bonus item?

I tried pondering on it but have difficulty in "measuring" anything that correlates level.

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To clarify, are the majority of bonus items granted to those that are above the level of the formula or at the level of the formula?

From personal experience alone, I received plenty of bonus items after reaching level ten since I can craft many very low success rates without fails.

I did receive some bonus items while leveling (once)...

Though its too late, I hope the next reporters would tell their level when they received it so we can have some data on that too.

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