The Official Mixed Martial Arts Thread - New Rankings

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Ahhh. Cool. I train Jeet Kune Do, which I guess you would call the real form of MMA. Cuz we mix 9 diff. martial arts, and train them.

Actually Pankration is the first form of Mixed Martial Arts, JKD is what Bruce Lee made which is essentially MMA.

I didn't say that JKD was the first... I just said its pretty much the real form of MMA. Cuz its literally all martial arts that work, combined into one.

Pankration is the first form of MMA, the next thing was Jiu Jutsu and then JKD. Pankration was and is the real form, JKD is only known because a movie star made it.

JKD isn't just known because Bruce Lee kicked a**. It's fame is due to its effectiveness. The reason its the true form of MMA is because the major philosophy behind it. No one's JKD is the same as another's. Take any techniques that work from anywhere, and discard the useless. JKD isn't a style of martial art, its a philosophy behind fighting, and the only reason it has a name is so Bruce Lee could promote his dojo, and so others can learn how to create their own JKD.
Pankration may be effective, may be what you like the most, maybe you just have loyalty to your martial art. But it's not the true form of MMA. You will often find that someone has included Pankration techniques into their JKD, you may find that they prefer BJJ or Shootfighting, or Sambo, or something else.
Pankration is a style, which makes it not the true form. JKD is a philosophy, making it the true way of fighting.

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Clearly, you're nut hugging Lee's left testicle. Pankration was the first form of MMA and is what is considered the first form of martial arts to encompass all aspects of fighting. JKD is a style as well, and not limited to being a philosophy. JKD is not some true way of fighting, because it's as you say, everyone's style is different, and Pankration is the first form to fight in every variation.648 BC is a long way before the 20th century. So I'm sorry you're wrong.

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Clearly, you're nut hugging Lee's left testicle. Pankration was the first form of MMA and is what is considered the first form of martial arts to encompass all aspects of fighting. JKD is a style as well, and not limited to being a philosophy. JKD is not some true way of fighting, because it's as you say, everyone's style is different, and Pankration is the first form to fight in every variation.648 BC is a long way before the 20th century. So I'm sorry you're wrong.

There's a reason I hug the sack. Cuz he was a beast. And being a philosophy kinda guarantees that its the real way to Mix Martial Arts. There's a reason its called MMA. Not because its a style, because its the idea that you take from everywhere and apply what works. JKD kinda epitomizes this.

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Clearly, you're nut hugging Lee's left testicle. Pankration was the first form of MMA and is what is considered the first form of martial arts to encompass all aspects of fighting. JKD is a style as well, and not limited to being a philosophy. JKD is not some true way of fighting, because it's as you say, everyone's style is different, and Pankration is the first form to fight in every variation.648 BC is a long way before the 20th century. So I'm sorry you're wrong.

There's a reason I hug the sack. Cuz he was a beast. And being a philosophy kinda guarantees that its the real way to Mix Martial Arts. There's a reason its called MMA. Not because its a style, because its the idea that you take from everywhere and apply what works. JKD kinda epitomizes this.

Wow, clearly you lack any form of common sense, stop talking bad kid. Pankration was around before JKD and allowed all forms of striking, chokes, submissions and wrestling. If history and actual proof doesn't move your stubbornness than I do not know what will.

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What do you guys think of the new "tri force" in the LHW in the UFC? This includes Evans, Machida and Quinton (he's also included in the former top three being Liddel and Wanderlei).

Obviously, there are LHW prospect out there but currently these three are the top players.

Considering the recent performance of Rampage that of which a UD with Jardine and a 1st round KO of Wanderlei in comparison with the other two I have to say, performance wise, that Machida is at the top position. Next, is the champion Evans and last is Rampage.

Now, saying that, I believe by the end of 2009 Rampage will hold the belt, again. Many are saying that Machida is a nightmare matchup for both of those guys (hell, everyone fighting him actually) and not only that, Machida stays consistent on all of his fights. Rashad have shown tremendous improvement in each of his fights but he's also shown that he's susceptible to giving up rounds (meaning, his first round or minute are lackluster). Of these three, Rampage is the only one who have bad progression. Wanderlei was a flash solid KO, we can't really determine anything in that fight except Rampage hits with a ton of power.

Then why am I saying that Rampage will hold the belt? It's because Rampage have fought tough competition time after time (don't know about Eastman). Hell, since in Pride who has he fought? Wanderlei 2 times (3 if you include the recent one), the two Rua brothers, Randleman, Henderson, Arona, Linland, Jardine, Forest (debatable), Liddel, I mean that's an incredible resume. He's fought these tough mofo's and come out the winner in most of them...

When Rampage fights who ever is champion (Machida most likely but I'm hoping Evans pulls it off) it's likely be a "war of attrition" 5 rounder...

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I don't see it as a triforce at all. It is Machida who is the dominant LHW, he had a complete MMA game, his wrestling is comparable if not better than Rashad's and obviously better than Rampage's, his effective striking is obviously superior to both men, his submission skills world's apart of both men, and he obviously has KO power. He had been in there with champions in Tito Ortiz, Rich Franklin and BJ Penn so there is no issue as to experience. Lyoto does not have a style which would lead to him gassing himself and both Rampage and Rashad have had suspect cardio.

No men have complete games like Lyoto, Rampage would lose simply off of kicks, Rashad by his striking inexperience. Machida's biggest threat would be Couture dropping weight.

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WEC 40 LIVE RESULTS:

Main Card Bouts (live on Versus):
-Miguel Torres def. Takeya Mizugaki by unanimous decision 49-46, 49-46, 48-47
-Joseph Benavidez def. Jeff Curran by unanimous decision 30-27, 30-27, 29-28
-Ben Henderson def. Shane Roller by TKO (strikes) at 1:41, R1
-Raphael Assuncao def. Jameel Massouh by unanimous decision 30-27, 30-27, 30-27

Preliminary Card Bouts:
-Anthony Njokuani def. Bart Palaszewski by TKO (strikes) at :27, R2
-Dominick Cruz def. Ivan Lopez by unanimous decison 30-27, 30-27, 29-28
-Wagnney Fabiano def. Fredson Paixao by unanimous decision 30-27,30-27, 30-27
-Rani Yahya def. Eddie Wineland by submission (rear naked choke) at 1:07, R1
-Akitoshi Tamura def. Manny Tapia by unanimous decision 29-28, 29-28, 29-28
-Rafael Dias def. Mike Budnik by unanimous decision 30-27, 29-28, 29-28

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DREAM 8 Results:

-Hayato “Mach” Sakurai def. Shinya Aoki by KO at 0:27, R1
-Jason High def. Yuya Shirai by Submission (Rear Naked Choke) at 0:59, R1
-Marius Zaromskis def. Seichi Ikemoto by Unaimous Decision, R2
-Andre Galvao def. John Alessio by Submission (Armbar) at 7:34, R1
-Daiki “DJ Taiki” Hata def. Hideo Tokoro by Unanimous Decision, R2
-Jeff Monson def. Sergei Kharitonov by Submission (North-South Choke) at 1:42, R1
-Riki Fukuda def. Murilo “Ninja” Rua by Unanimous Decision, R2
-Vitor “Shaolin” Ribeiro def. Katsuhiko Nagata by TKO (Doctor’s Stoppage) at 7:58, R1
-Andrews Nakahra def. Shungo Oyama by TKO at 2:00, R1
-Katsuyori Shibata def. Ikuhisa Minowa by Unanimous Decision, R2

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Clearly, you're nut hugging Lee's left testicle. Pankration was the first form of MMA and is what is considered the first form of martial arts to encompass all aspects of fighting. JKD is a style as well, and not limited to being a philosophy. JKD is not some true way of fighting, because it's as you say, everyone's style is different, and Pankration is the first form to fight in every variation.648 BC is a long way before the 20th century. So I'm sorry you're wrong.

There's a reason I hug the sack. Cuz he was a beast. And being a philosophy kinda guarantees that its the real way to Mix Martial Arts. There's a reason its called MMA. Not because its a style, because its the idea that you take from everywhere and apply what works. JKD kinda epitomizes this.

Wow, clearly you lack any form of common sense, stop talking bad kid. Pankration was around before JKD and allowed all forms of striking, chokes, submissions and wrestling. If history and actual proof doesn't move your stubbornness than I do not know what will.

Ok stop. Pankration in a sense is the grand-daddy of all martial arts. However in a modern sense, Jeet Kune Do is considered one of the first forms of MMA. Unlike MMA, JKD is not purely for competition, but self defence as well (not saying that you can't use MMA for self defence, I'm just saying). Also JKD has the spiritual aspect to it that MMA doesn't. So yeah, I'm just saying.