The Official Mixed Martial Arts Thread - New Rankings

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If lesnar got someone to giveup their back I dont think he would even look for a rear naked cholk...Thats why Carwin can beat lesnar because Carwin can standup without being too worried about getting cought in a submission

He won't need to worry about a choke ... he'll need to worry about that concrete brick that Lesnar calls a hand ...

...Carwin has bigger hands than Lesnar.

size aside ... it still pretty much a concrete brick ...

Yeah, but Carwin's got better hands than Lesnar, better BJJ than Lesnar, and as good of a wrestler as Lesnar is, Carwin's a Division II National Champion AND a 2 time national runner up.

striking wise I would say their even ... same with wrestling ... and when was the last time Carwin even tried to submit someone ... their fight will basically be two wrestlers striking with each other ... either way it won't last long ...

Carwin's got the best Boxing coach in the country coaching him, so I'ma give the striking to Carwin. Wrestling-wise, yeah, they're about even. But about the submissions...

Carwin is 12-0, with 7 wins coming by KO/TKO, and 5 of his wins coming from submissions.

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...Carwin has bigger hands than Lesnar.

size aside ... it still pretty much a concrete brick ...

Yeah, but Carwin's got better hands than Lesnar, better BJJ than Lesnar, and as good of a wrestler as Lesnar is, Carwin's a Division II National Champion AND a 2 time national runner up.

striking wise I would say their even ... same with wrestling ... and when was the last time Carwin even tried to submit someone ... their fight will basically be two wrestlers striking with each other ... either way it won't last long ...

Carwin's got the best Boxing coach in the country coaching him, so I'ma give the striking to Carwin. Wrestling-wise, yeah, they're about even. But about the submissions...

Carwin is 12-0, with 7 wins coming by KO/TKO, and 5 of his wins coming from submissions.

So he submitted a bunch of nobodies ... does that automatically mean he is going to lock in a submission on Lesnar ... as for Trevor Wittman ... he's a good striking coach ... same with Greg Jackson ... but Greg Nelson is that bad as a striking coach either ...

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...Carwin has bigger hands than Lesnar.

size aside ... it still pretty much a concrete brick ...

Yeah, but Carwin's got better hands than Lesnar, better BJJ than Lesnar, and as good of a wrestler as Lesnar is, Carwin's a Division II National Champion AND a 2 time national runner up.

striking wise I would say their even ... same with wrestling ... and when was the last time Carwin even tried to submit someone ... their fight will basically be two wrestlers striking with each other ... either way it won't last long ...

Carwin's got the best Boxing coach in the country coaching him, so I'ma give the striking to Carwin. Wrestling-wise, yeah, they're about even. But about the submissions...

Carwin is 12-0, with 7 wins coming by KO/TKO, and 5 of his wins coming from submissions.

So he submitted a bunch of nobodies ... does that automatically mean he is going to lock in a submission on Lesnar ... as for Trevor Wittman ... he's a good striking coach ... same with Greg Jackson ... but Greg Nelson is that bad as a striking coach either ...

They've both got great coaching, and they're both great fighters. It'll be a fun match to watch hopefully...

...That is, if Lesnar loses! Lol jk.

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Yeah, but Carwin's got better hands than Lesnar, better BJJ than Lesnar, and as good of a wrestler as Lesnar is, Carwin's a Division II National Champion AND a 2 time national runner up.

striking wise I would say their even ... same with wrestling ... and when was the last time Carwin even tried to submit someone ... their fight will basically be two wrestlers striking with each other ... either way it won't last long ...

Carwin's got the best Boxing coach in the country coaching him, so I'ma give the striking to Carwin. Wrestling-wise, yeah, they're about even. But about the submissions...

Carwin is 12-0, with 7 wins coming by KO/TKO, and 5 of his wins coming from submissions.

So he submitted a bunch of nobodies ... does that automatically mean he is going to lock in a submission on Lesnar ... as for Trevor Wittman ... he's a good striking coach ... same with Greg Jackson ... but Greg Nelson is that bad as a striking coach either ...

They've both got great coaching, and they're both great fighters. It'll be a fun match to watch hopefully...

...That is, if Lesnar loses! Lol jk.

Agreed ... can't stand Lesnar ...

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Yeah, but Carwin's got better hands than Lesnar, better BJJ than Lesnar, and as good of a wrestler as Lesnar is, Carwin's a Division II National Champion AND a 2 time national runner up.

striking wise I would say their even ... same with wrestling ... and when was the last time Carwin even tried to submit someone ... their fight will basically be two wrestlers striking with each other ... either way it won't last long ...

Carwin's got the best Boxing coach in the country coaching him, so I'ma give the striking to Carwin. Wrestling-wise, yeah, they're about even. But about the submissions...

Carwin is 12-0, with 7 wins coming by KO/TKO, and 5 of his wins coming from submissions.

So he submitted a bunch of nobodies ... does that automatically mean he is going to lock in a submission on Lesnar ... as for Trevor Wittman ... he's a good striking coach ... same with Greg Jackson ... but Greg Nelson is that bad as a striking coach either ...

They've both got great coaching, and they're both great fighters. It'll be a fun match to watch hopefully...

...That is, if Lesnar loses! Lol jk.

Agreed ... can't stand Lesnar ...

Well EDIT:Carwin will have a big advantage in striking and lesnar will have a slight advantage in wrestling either way lesnar isnt going to beat around the bush hes gonna try to take carwin down and G&P him as much as he can...

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mirokuman123

Carwin's got the best Boxing coach in the country coaching him, so I'ma give the striking to Carwin. Wrestling-wise, yeah, they're about even. But about the submissions...

Carwin is 12-0, with 7 wins coming by KO/TKO, and 5 of his wins coming from submissions.

So he submitted a bunch of nobodies ... does that automatically mean he is going to lock in a submission on Lesnar ... as for Trevor Wittman ... he's a good striking coach ... same with Greg Jackson ... but Greg Nelson is that bad as a striking coach either ...

They've both got great coaching, and they're both great fighters. It'll be a fun match to watch hopefully...

...That is, if Lesnar loses! Lol jk.

Agreed ... can't stand Lesnar ...

Well lesnar will have a big advantage in striking and lesnar will have a slight advantage in wrestling either way lesnar isnt going to beat around the bush hes gonna try to take carwin down and G&P him as much as he can...

But that's basically almost the same gameplan of Carwin ... if not that ... then he's going to keep the fight standing ... and try to land one of those bombs that he is known for ...

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MMA Event Results

UFC Live: Vera vs Jones - MArch 21, 2010
Preliminary Card
Light Heavyweight bout: Eric Schafer vs. Jason Brilz
Brilz defeated Schafer via unanimous decision [29-28, 29-28, 29-28].
Welterweight bout: Mike Pierce vs. Julio Paulino
Pierce defeated Paulino via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27).
Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Chase Gormley
Schaub defeated Gormley via TKO (punches) at 0:47 of round 1.
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Daniel Roberts
Howard defeated Roberts via KO (punch) at 2:01 of round 1.
Lightweight bout Duane Ludwig vs. Darren Elkins
Elkins defeated Ludwig via TKO (ankle injury) at 0:44 of round 1.
Light Heavyweight bout: Eliot Marshall vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Matyushenko defeated Marshall via split decision (30-27, 28-29, 30-27).
Lightweight bout: Clay Guida vs. Shannon Gugerty
Guida defeated Gugerty via submission (arm-triangle choke) at 3:40 of round 2.

Main Card
Middleweight bout: Alessio Sakara vs. James Irvin
Sakara defeated Irvin via TKO (doctor stoppage) at 3:01 of round 1.
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Paul Buentello
Kongo defeated Buentello via submission (strikes) at 1:16 of round 3.
Heavyweight bout: Junior dos Santos vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
dos Santos defeated Gonzaga via TKO (punches) at 3:53 of round 1.
Light Heavyweight bout: Brandon Vera vs. Jon Jones
Jones defeated Vera via TKO (elbows and punches) at 3:19 of round 1.


DREAM 13 - March 22, 2010
Featherweight Championship bout: Bibiano Fernandes (c) vs. Joachim Hansen
Fernandes defeated Hansen via split decision at 5:00 of round 2.
Heavyweight bout: Josh Barnett vs. Siala "Mighty Mo" Siligia
Barnett defeated Siligia via submission (Kimura) at 4:41 of round 1.
Catchweight (72kg) bout: KJ Noons vs. Andre Amade
Noons defeated Amade via unanimous decision at 5:00 of round 2.
Welterweight bout: Ryo Chonan vs. Andrews Nakahara
Chonan defeated Nakahara via unanimous decision at 5:00 of round 2.
Featherweight bout: Cole Escovedo vs. Yoshiro Maeda
Escovedo defeated Maeda via KO (Head Kick) at 2:29 of round 1.
Lightweight bout: Katsunori Kikuno vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Kikuno defeated Hironaka via KO (Strikes) at 1:26 of round 1.
Openweight bout: Ikuhisa Minowa vs. Jimmy Ambriz
Minowa defeated Ambriz via Submission (Toe Hold) at 2:42 of round 2.


Strikeforce Challengers 7 - March 26, 2010
Non-Televised Card
Heavyweight bout: Daniel Cormier vs. John Devine
Cormier def. Devine vis TKO (Punches) at 1:19 of round 1.
Welterweight amateur bout: Trinidad Valdez vs. Ricky Jackson
Jackson def. Valdez via KO (Punch) at 1:59 of round 1.
Featherweight amateur bout: Avery Kaleo vs. Chris Buron
Kakeo def. Buron via Split Decision at 5:00 of round 3.
Bantamweight amateur bout: Paul Ruiz vs John Chacon
Ruiz def. Chacon via Unanimous Decision at 5:00 of round 3.

Televised Card
Heavyweight bout: Lavar Johnson vs. Lolohea Mahe
Johnson def. Mahe via TKO (Punches) at 3:29 of round 2.
Light Heavyweight bout: Abongo Humphrey vs. George Bush III
Humphrey def. Bush via Submission (Guillotine Choke) at 1:44 of round 1.
Welterweight bout: Luke Stewart vs. André Galvão
Galvão def. Stewart via Split Decision at 5:00 of round 3 [27-30, 30-27, 29-28].
Women's Bantamweight bout: Zoila Frausto vs. Miesha Tate
Tate def. Frausto via Submission (Armbar) at 4:09 of round 2.
Catchweight (160 lbs) bout: Justin Wilcox vs. Shamar Bailey
Wilcox def. Bailey via Unanimous Decision at 5:00 of round 3.


UFC 111: St-Pierre vs Hardy - March 27, 2010
Preliminary Card
Welterweight bout: Matthew Riddle vs. Greg Soto
Riddle defeated Soto via disqualification (illegal upkick) at 1:30 of round 3.
Light Heavyweight bout: Rodney Wallace vs. Jared Hamman
Hamman defeated Wallace via unanimous decision [29-28, 29-28, 29-28].
Middleweight bout: Rousimar Palhares vs. Tomasz Drwal
Palhares defeated Drwal via submission (heel hook) at 0:45 of round 1.

Spike TV Card
Welterweight bout: Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Brown
Almeida defeated Brown via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:30 of round 2.
Catchweight (177 lb) bout: Nate Diaz vs. Rory Markham
Diaz defeated Markham via TKO (punches) at 2:47 of round 1.

Main Card
Lightweight bout: Jim Miller vs. Mark Bocek
Miller defeated Bocek via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 30-27).
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Ben Saunders
Fitch defeated Saunders via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27).
Lightweight bout: Kurt Pellegrino vs. Fabricio Camoes
Pellegrino defeated Camoes via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:20 of round 2.
Interim Heavyweight Championship bout: Frank Mir vs. Shane Carwin
Carwin defeated Mir via KO (punches) at 3:48 of round 1 to become the UFC Interim Heavyweight champion.
Welterweight Championship bout: Georges St. Pierre (c) vs. Dan Hardy
St. Pierre defeated Hardy via unanimous decision (50-43, 50-44, 50-45) to retain the UFC Welterweight championship.


UFC Fight Night 21 - March 31, 2010
Preliminary Card
Welterweight bout: Charlie Brenneman vs. Jason High
Brenneman defeated High via unanimous decision [30-27, 30-27, 29-28].
Middleweight bout: Gerald Harris vs Mario Miranda
Harris defeated Miranda via TKO (punches) at 4:49 of round 1.
Middleweight bout: Yushin Okami vs. Lucio Linhares
Okami defeated Linhares via TKO (doctor stoppage) at 2:47 of round 2.
Lightweight bout: Caol Uno vs. Gleison Tibau
Tibau defeated Uno via TKO (punches) at 4:13 of round 1.
Lightweight bout: Rob Emerson vs. Nik Lentz
Lentz defeated Emerson via unanimous decision [29-28, 30-27, 29-28].
Lightweight bout: Jacob Volkmann vs. Ronnys Torres
Volkmann defeated Torres via split decision (28-29, 30-27, 30-27).
Lightweight bout: Andre Winner vs. Rafaello Oliveira
Winner defeated Oliveira via unanimous decision (30-27, 29-28, 30-27).

Main Card
Lightweight bout: Ross Pearson vs. Dennis Siver
Pearson defeated Siver via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27).
Middleweight bout: Nate Quarry vs. Jorge Rivera
Rivera defeated Quarry via TKO (punches) at 0:29 of round 2.
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs Stefan Struve
Nelson defeated Struve via KO (punches) at 0:39 of round 1.
Lightweight bout: Kenny Florian vs Takanori Gomi
Florian defeated Gomi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:52 of round 3.

[baka_boy1221]

Looking at some of the match-ups the UFC will be putting on in the heavyweight division ... I has just dawned on me how truly stacked the heavyweight division is ... beside the obvious contenders (Carwin, Valasquez, dos Santos) ... you still got the old cats in there (Big Nog, Gonzaga, Cro Cop) ... but then there some ture up-incomers who if the win their next fight will no doubt be in the mix: Pat Barry (he'll be fighting Cro Cop), Roy Nelson (just defeated Stefan Struve), Ben Rothwell (next fight against Gilbert Yvel), Todd Duffee ... the UFC Heavyweight division is full of sharks ... no wonder Fedr doesn't want in ...

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So I pretty much seen Florian Dominating Gomi but seriously Why did people thing Gomi had such a good chance???UFC is a whole other leauge and when people come in its like someone from college going to the NFL things usually come togeather for them down the stretch but its such a step up in competition you cant just throw them at a top 5 guy in any weight class they have to take baby steps...Of course this isnt true for people like Hendo and Rampage...But even Wandy and Shogun had a hard time adjusting to the step up in compatition...

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Also Who do you think wins Joe Rogan nut hugger trophy this week...Id say its a toss up between Florian Buintello and Nelson....I dont think joe realizes its okay to be critical of your favorite fighters...BTW Tebau needs a challange...Id say Guida or tyson griffon or....Nate...Or Melvin gullard...Wow I just realized LW is stackked...It just dont seem that way because BJ PWNs all

[mistermma]

Prestiege WorldWide

So I pretty much seen Florian Dominating Gomi but seriously Why did people thing Gomi had such a good chance???UFC is a whole other leauge and when people come in its like someone from college going to the NFL things usually come togeather for them down the stretch but its such a step up in competition you cant just throw them at a top 5 guy in any weight class they have to take baby steps...Of course this isnt true for people like Hendo and Rampage...But even Wandy and Shogun had a hard time adjusting to the step up in compatition...

Wandy was an undersize LHW and Shogun had injuries and ring rust ... once they got acclomated they did fine ... Gomi being the last Pride LW champ ... should be fine hanging with the likes of Florian or any other contender ... I believe Florian came with the right gameplan ... and executed it ... he shut down Gomi's strengths and played to his own ... Gomi should be able to come back from this ...

[mistermma]

Prestiege WorldWide

Also Who do you think wins Joe Rogan nut hugger trophy this week...Id say its a toss up between Florian Buintello and Nelson....I dont think joe realizes its okay to be critical of your favorite fighters...BTW Tebau needs a challange...Id say Guida or tyson griffon or....Nate...Or Melvin gullard...Wow I just realized LW is stackked...It just dont seem that way because BJ PWNs all

Tibau against the likes of Guida or Sherk might be interesting ...

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mmafighter1221

Prestiege WorldWide

So I pretty much seen Florian Dominating Gomi but seriously Why did people thing Gomi had such a good chance???UFC is a whole other leauge and when people come in its like someone from college going to the NFL things usually come togeather for them down the stretch but its such a step up in competition you cant just throw them at a top 5 guy in any weight class they have to take baby steps...Of course this isnt true for people like Hendo and Rampage...But even Wandy and Shogun had a hard time adjusting to the step up in compatition...

Wandy was an undersize LHW and Shogun had injuries and ring rust ... once they got acclomated they did fine ... Gomi being the last Pride LW champ ... should be fine hanging with the likes of Florian or any other contender ... I believe Florian came with the right gameplan ... and executed it ... he shut down Gomi's strengths and played to his own ... Gomi should be able to come back from this ...

Right Wandys size wasnt as important agenst lesser comp and the "Octagon Gitters" happens to everyone because of the level of competition Now Gomi realizes hes in the big leauges and has to train like an animal to be in the race

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mmafighter1221

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Also Who do you think wins Joe Rogan nut hugger trophy this week...Id say its a toss up between Florian Buintello and Nelson....I dont think joe realizes its okay to be critical of your favorite fighters...BTW Tebau needs a challange...Id say Guida or tyson griffon or....Nate...Or Melvin gullard...Wow I just realized LW is stackked...It just dont seem that way because BJ PWNs all

Tibau against the likes of Guida or Sherk might be interesting ...

Sherk is underraited...They should put him up agenst Diago or even rematch with kenny sounds good...He will cruise past anyone else except maby maynard