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Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year too everyone.
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Merry Christmas, everyone! biggrin
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Merry Christmas everyone! biggrin
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This might just be my favourite fight of the year, purely based on the players involved:
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Syn Shadow I was in such a great mood last night. Chris Neil, Shean Donovan, and Pascal Leclaire returned to the Senators line up last night against the Pittsburgh Penguins. The game starts off with Chris Phillips taking a penalty for holding. No big deal. Malkin was able to score on the powerplay, so 1-0 Pittsburgh. Later on that period Volchenkov was able to blast one and he scored his third of the season. Game is now tied 1-1 and then goes into intermission. From there I left the game because I had a few things to do. After touring around and getting everything done I comeback home and ask my girlfriend what the score was. She was busy so she wasn't able to tell me. I look at the tv and the score pops up and I see 8-1 Pittsburgh. I turned the game off at that point and put on the World Juniour game between Canada and the Czech Republic. Anywho the final score ended up being Pittsburgh 8 Ottawa 2. Not impressed and I don't really care what happened but I am really worried because in the first period I saw Alfredsson get injured pretty badly. After the hit he went straight to the locker room. No word yet but appearntly Alfredsson left the game wearing a sling for his shoulder. Ian Mendes from sportsnet said that it doesn't look good for Alfredsson and he will be out for a few weeks. Cory Clouston said "Its not good" on twitter. This was from NHL.com - "I'll probably see the doctor (Thursday) and do an X-ray and see what the damage is," said Alfredsson, whose arm was in a sling. "But I expect at least a few weeks." I watched from the second period on and there was only one team playing. The Senators really looked like they wanted to be somewhere else. Something has to happen there to make those guys more hungry to win. |
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I was in such a great mood last night. Chris Neil, Shean Donovan, and Pascal Leclaire returned to the Senators line up last night against the Pittsburgh Penguins.
The game starts off with Chris Phillips taking a penalty for holding. No big deal. Malkin was able to score on the powerplay, so 1-0 Pittsburgh. Later on that period Volchenkov was able to blast one and he scored his third of the season. Game is now tied 1-1 and then goes into intermission. From there I left the game because I had a few things to do. After touring around and getting everything done I comeback home and ask my girlfriend what the score was. She was busy so she wasn't able to tell me. I look at the tv and the score pops up and I see 8-1 Pittsburgh. I turned the game off at that point and put on the World Juniour game between Canada and the Czech Republic. Anywho the final score ended up being Pittsburgh 8 Ottawa 2. Not impressed and I don't really care what happened but I am really worried because in the first period I saw Alfredsson get injured pretty badly. After the hit he went straight to the locker room. No word yet but appearntly Alfredsson left the game wearing a sling for his shoulder. Ian Mendes from sportsnet said that it doesn't look good for Alfredsson and he will be out for a few weeks. Cory Clouston said "Its not good" on twitter. This was from NHL.com - "I'll probably see the doctor (Thursday) and do an X-ray and see what the damage is," said Alfredsson, whose arm was in a sling. "But I expect at least a few weeks." |
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Lindrosfan Wow, that's AMAZING!!! Dwayne Roloson, man...That guy really is a superstar goaltender. Good thing for the Islanders that they signed that guy. 3nodding |
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Wow, there's actually a hockey thread here on Gaia. It always seems like hockey is left out of sports polls, so it's great to have this here! mrgreen |
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Lindrosfan That is a couple amazing saves indeed. |
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iZabuza Pokey Wasabi  Doubt thou the stars are fire,Doubt that the sun doth move; Whee, first post in the Hockey Thread~ Hi guys. :3 I'm feeling adventurous tonight~! I love Brodeur vs Roy debates~ <3 Roy and Brodeur are, although so close in career numbers, sooo different in every other aspect (style of play, team system/skill, time period, etc) that it is nearly impossible to compare the two. Why don't we wait until Brodeur retires? Anywhoo, it can be argued both ways. I don't want my first post to turn into a rant/debate/etc, so I'll keep it short. Yes, Brodeur has played on a great defensive minded team his whole career while Roy was carrying a crap team that had no place in the playoffs to his first two cups, and was still the best player on Colorado for his second two. The trap has pretty much been dead since the rule changes that came after the lock out. Brodeur has continued his level of play even after, therefore contrary to popular belief his numbers aren't just a result of the Devils system. Games played doesn't really carry much weight in an argument against, as it's CAREER best goaltending that is being compared. Yes, Sawchuk played less games to get to 103 shutouts than Brodeur did, but Roy only ever hit 66 shutouts in even more games played; Does that mean Sawchuk>Brodeur>Roy? Absolutely not. You cannot argue for games played because it is not a hockey related stat but a personal decision. Roy wanted to retire when he was 38, and Sawchuk died at age 40, therefore their games played were limited to that. If anything, games played would be in Brodeur's favor as he is still playing and beating the records of multiple goaltenders. Yes, goaltenders of Sawchuck's era wore tiny little things for protection, while more recently pads are mainly used for stopping the puck and therefore huge. The argument here is again between Brodeur and Roy. Actually, I think Roy wore larger pads at the end of his career than the average size Brodeur has always worn. Roy is a butterfly style goaltender, and therefore used his pads to cover the entire bottom of the net. Brodeur, as a standing hybrid, wears some of the smallest pads in league today AND uses more skill and intelligence than is, and was, needed to play as butterfly. My opinion? Roy is amazing, created the butterfly style and had perhaps the best goaltending career ever. BUT Brodeur doesn't butterfly. Roy was smart to play in this new frowned upon style to stop the puck efficiently and save energy, but that's not skill. Roy had skill, but the butterfly style today just means draft tall/large goaltenders and teach'em to go on their knees to take out the entire lower half of the goal, then inflate their shoulder pads and hope they have a fast glove/blocker to protect high. That's not skill, that's a bloody wall. Regardless of ability, Brodeur PLAYS better than Roy did. He doesn't believe in the butterfly and makes his saves because he can predict the upcoming play and get in the right place at the right time and at the right speed. [/comparative essay] Nabby was mentioned(♥). Nabokov actually plays a positional hybrid style in a narrow butterfly stance because he is small and therefore cannot physically cover most of the net and has to rely on coming out aggressively and playing the angles. He wears small leg pads so he can move quickly and drop faster if needed, but seems to love his large chest pad for smaller rebounds. He used to butterfly more often, as his best asset is his lightning fast glove hand, but not so much recently after his recurring groin problems last year. As a result of this, he has been playing a more traditional stand up style instead (flopping about a la Hasek), and while it still works for the initial save, it often leaves him out of position and unable to recover quickly. Yaay Nabby~ Doubt truth to be a liar, But never doubt I love. Boy, do you have a lot of hockey knowledge, I praise you lol. xp No, seriously. You pretty much just talked about what I was going to say. But what I can say about the Sawchuk/Brodeur/Roy debate is that Brodeur is a great stand-up goaltender where Roy was a butterfly goaltender and Sawchuk was...Well, I don't even know what kind of goaltender he is. sweatdrop And to play excellent as a stand-up goaltender, being quick on your skates, able to play the puck, and have old goalie chest protectors from the '90s makes Brodeur THE best goaltender to play the game EVER. He broke the record for the most wins last season, and broke two records this season for most shutouts and most regular season appearances. And at age 37, he's showing no signs of getting slower. And I can agree with the fact that he's been playing for the same team his whole career and that the Devils are a old-boring style trap defensive team, but that's what makes him so tough to beat. Why do you think the Devils are #1 in the league right now? And sorry for the scattered information. sweatdrop Haha, everything that anyone has said is in her post(I`ve posted wit her in different threads before haha). If I ever need a short comparative essay, I`m so copy and pasting that xd Very nicely said. Except Brodeur and Roy did play in the same era. Pre-Roy retirement lol |
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Pokey Wasabi Doubt thou the stars are fire,Doubt that the sun doth move; Whee, first post in the Hockey Thread~ Hi guys. :3 I'm feeling adventurous tonight~! I love Brodeur vs Roy debates~ <3 Roy and Brodeur are, although so close in career numbers, sooo different in every other aspect (style of play, team system/skill, time period, etc) that it is nearly impossible to compare the two. Why don't we wait until Brodeur retires? Anywhoo, it can be argued both ways. I don't want my first post to turn into a rant/debate/etc, so I'll keep it short. Yes, Brodeur has played on a great defensive minded team his whole career while Roy was carrying a crap team that had no place in the playoffs to his first two cups, and was still the best player on Colorado for his second two. The trap has pretty much been dead since the rule changes that came after the lock out. Brodeur has continued his level of play even after, therefore contrary to popular belief his numbers aren't just a result of the Devils system. Games played doesn't really carry much weight in an argument against, as it's CAREER best goaltending that is being compared. Yes, Sawchuk played less games to get to 103 shutouts than Brodeur did, but Roy only ever hit 66 shutouts in even more games played; Does that mean Sawchuk>Brodeur>Roy? Absolutely not. You cannot argue for games played because it is not a hockey related stat but a personal decision. Roy wanted to retire when he was 38, and Sawchuk died at age 40, therefore their games played were limited to that. If anything, games played would be in Brodeur's favor as he is still playing and beating the records of multiple goaltenders. Yes, goaltenders of Sawchuck's era wore tiny little things for protection, while more recently pads are mainly used for stopping the puck and therefore huge. The argument here is again between Brodeur and Roy. Actually, I think Roy wore larger pads at the end of his career than the average size Brodeur has always worn. Roy is a butterfly style goaltender, and therefore used his pads to cover the entire bottom of the net. Brodeur, as a standing hybrid, wears some of the smallest pads in league today AND uses more skill and intelligence than is, and was, needed to play as butterfly. My opinion? Roy is amazing, created the butterfly style and had perhaps the best goaltending career ever. BUT Brodeur doesn't butterfly. Roy was smart to play in this new frowned upon style to stop the puck efficiently and save energy, but that's not skill. Roy had skill, but the butterfly style today just means draft tall/large goaltenders and teach'em to go on their knees to take out the entire lower half of the goal, then inflate their shoulder pads and hope they have a fast glove/blocker to protect high. That's not skill, that's a bloody wall. Regardless of ability, Brodeur PLAYS better than Roy did. He doesn't believe in the butterfly and makes his saves because he can predict the upcoming play and get in the right place at the right time and at the right speed. [/comparative essay] Nabby was mentioned(♥). Nabokov actually plays a positional hybrid style in a narrow butterfly stance because he is small and therefore cannot physically cover most of the net and has to rely on coming out aggressively and playing the angles. He wears small leg pads so he can move quickly and drop faster if needed, but seems to love his large chest pad for smaller rebounds. He used to butterfly more often, as his best asset is his lightning fast glove hand, but not so much recently after his recurring groin problems last year. As a result of this, he has been playing a more traditional stand up style instead (flopping about a la Hasek), and while it still works for the initial save, it often leaves him out of position and unable to recover quickly. Yaay Nabby~ Doubt truth to be a liar, But never doubt I love. Boy, do you have a lot of hockey knowledge, I praise you lol. xp No, seriously. You pretty much just talked about what I was going to say. But what I can say about the Sawchuk/Brodeur/Roy debate is that Brodeur is a great stand-up goaltender where Roy was a butterfly goaltender and Sawchuk was...Well, I don't even know what kind of goaltender he is. sweatdrop And to play excellent as a stand-up goaltender, being quick on your skates, able to play the puck, and have old goalie chest protectors from the '90s makes Brodeur THE best goaltender to play the game EVER. He broke the record for the most wins last season, and broke two records this season for most shutouts and most regular season appearances. And at age 37, he's showing no signs of getting slower. And I can agree with the fact that he's been playing for the same team his whole career and that the Devils are a old-boring style trap defensive team, but that's what makes him so tough to beat. Why do you think the Devils are #1 in the league right now? And sorry for the scattered information. sweatdrop |
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Doubt thou the stars are fire, Doubt that the sun doth move; Whee, first post in the Hockey Thread~ Hi guys. :3 I'm feeling adventurous tonight~! I love Brodeur vs Roy debates~ <3 Roy and Brodeur are, although so close in career numbers, sooo different in every other aspect (style of play, team system/skill, time period, etc) that it is nearly impossible to compare the two. Why don't we wait until Brodeur retires? Anywhoo, it can be argued both ways. I don't want my first post to turn into a rant/debate/etc, so I'll keep it short. Yes, Brodeur has played on a great defensive minded team his whole career while Roy was carrying a crap team that had no place in the playoffs to his first two cups, and was still the best player on Colorado for his second two. The trap has pretty much been dead since the rule changes that came after the lock out. Brodeur has continued his level of play even after, therefore contrary to popular belief his numbers aren't just a result of the Devils system. Games played doesn't really carry much weight in an argument against, as it's CAREER best goaltending that is being compared. Yes, Sawchuk played less games to get to 103 shutouts than Brodeur did, but Roy only ever hit 66 shutouts in even more games played; Does that mean Sawchuk>Brodeur>Roy? Absolutely not. You cannot argue for games played because it is not a hockey related stat but a personal decision. Roy wanted to retire when he was 38, and Sawchuk died at age 40, therefore their games played were limited to that. If anything, games played would be in Brodeur's favor as he is still playing and beating the records of multiple goaltenders. Yes, goaltenders of Sawchuck's era wore tiny little things for protection, while more recently pads are mainly used for stopping the puck and therefore huge. The argument here is again between Brodeur and Roy. Actually, I think Roy wore larger pads at the end of his career than the average size Brodeur has always worn. Roy is a butterfly style goaltender, and therefore used his pads to cover the entire bottom of the net. Brodeur, as a standing hybrid, wears some of the smallest pads in league today AND uses more skill and intelligence than is, and was, needed to play as butterfly. My opinion? Roy is amazing, created the butterfly style and had perhaps the best goaltending career ever. BUT Brodeur doesn't butterfly. Roy was smart to play in this new frowned upon style to stop the puck efficiently and save energy, but that's not skill. Roy had skill, but the butterfly style today just means draft tall/large goaltenders and teach'em to go on their knees to take out the entire lower half of the goal, then inflate their shoulder pads and hope they have a fast glove/blocker to protect high. That's not skill, that's a bloody wall. Regardless of ability, Brodeur PLAYS better than Roy did. He doesn't believe in the butterfly and makes his saves because he can predict the upcoming play and get in the right place at the right time and at the right speed. [/comparative essay] Nabby was mentioned(♥). Nabokov actually plays a positional hybrid style in a narrow butterfly stance because he is small and therefore cannot physically cover most of the net and has to rely on coming out aggressively and playing the angles. He wears small leg pads so he can move quickly and drop faster if needed, but seems to love his large chest pad for smaller rebounds. He used to butterfly more often, as his best asset is his lightning fast glove hand, but not so much recently after his recurring groin problems last year. As a result of this, he has been playing a more traditional stand up style instead (flopping about a la Hasek), and while it still works for the initial save, it often leaves him out of position and unable to recover quickly. Yaay Nabby~ Doubt truth to be a liar, But never doubt I love. |
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Tagga Phuck phatso, Roy's always going to be better. No, I'm not saying that because my team had it's a** handed to them, but yes, I am a little pissed. Let me clear up a few things about Brodeur: Brodeur has always had a good defense. Brodeur has usually played behind a trap. Brodeur has played more games than Sawchuk to break his record. Brodeur uses bigger pads than Roy and Sawchuk. He's still a helluva good player, but never will he be the best. Unless Roy turns out to actually be a robot. Devils played great though, seems like they always do against the Pens nowadays. Seemed like everytime Fleury turned around the puck was getting ready to come back out of the net. Johnson played a good game too. You might want to check that fact out. Bigger than Sawchuck? Duh, Sawchuck played in a different era. Roy also played behind a good defense. But what makes Brodeurs records more special is No one really plays that stlye of goaltending anymore, aside from say Nabby. |
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