***** vs. Molestation

[Quean]

@Chameleon X AHHH, YOU'RE STALKING MY THREADS *hides*

Anyway, as to your first point, although you make a very good argument, my personal opinion is that 12 is still too young. I personally don't think there is inherently anything unnatural about *****, simply that 12 is too young to give informed consent, and in such cases as someone having sex with a 12 year old who supposedly gave consent, statutory rape laws are a good thing. But I'll try and not turn this into an age of consent discussion.

[Quean]

Chameleon X

Quean

@Chameleon X AHHH, YOU'RE STALKING MY THREADS *hides*

Anyway, as to your first point, although you make a very good argument, my personal opinion is that 12 is still too young. I personally don't think there is inherently anything unnatural about *****, simply that 12 is too young to give informed consent, and in such cases as someone having sex with a 12 year old who supposedly gave consent, statutory rape laws are a good thing. But I'll try and not turn this into an age of consent discussion.

Well, yeah, I also think 12 is a tad too young myself. I personally draw the line at around 15 or sixteen. Of course, it has a LOT to do with the maturity level of the people involved. If one or both parties are too childish, you know you're headed for disaster. Tried dating a 14 yo online once.... stare let's just say we ended up not seeing eye to eye.

Also, stalking you? Hahah! Don't be absurd! Incidentally, don't worry about your closet door being ajar, it's probably nothing.
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That was a joke, y'see. sweatdrop

Ah, but I don't have a closet. Beat that, my dear fellow xD

Anyway, yes, I think it has a lot to do with the personal maturity of the person. I happen to be 15 myself (God, I feel young), and I'm actually able to hold an intelligent debate, where as, sadly, a lot of my peers are still talking in text talk in the Chatterbox.

But on a different note, do you think that if someone who admits to being attracted to 13-15 year olds pursues a relationship with one, and both people happen to be mature enough for the relationship, that it should be viewed as an acceptable relationship? Or should it not be allowed out of principle?

[Quean]

Chameleon X

I would say it all comes down to what both are looking for. If all the dude wants is sex, and he's using a young girl for his own satisfaction, then he's clearly in the wrong. If, on the other hand, both truly love each other and are willing to make concessions and sacrifices for the sake of the other, than I believe that could be acceptable on the grounds that in that case the girl would, in principle, be no worse off than if she was dating someone her own age. In fact, the added financial stability might actually provide an advantage. 3nodding

Though, I'm of the mind that no action in and of itself is inherently right or wrong, irregardless of context and consequences. I think that what makes or breaks the code of morality is not the act itself, but why it is being done, and what results are gleaned from it. If both the intent and consequence (for the couple themselves, and apart from social or legal sanctions) are positive, then I think the relationship should be allowed.

I would have to agree, but the annoying part is that the law doesn't. In my state if you're under 16 and going out with someone more than 4 years older than you, it is illegal. Which is stupid in my opinion. But in many cases it is useful, since not all people under 16 are mature enough for that.

[warrier22]

if 12 is to young for a person to decide wether they want sex or not then why can a 10y.o be treated as an adult for commiting some crimes how can they commit a crime and be treated as an adult but are to young for sex

point 2 what if a young girl just wants sex and chooses an older guy is she taking advantage of the older guy remmber it can be very hard to say no if the older guys has feelings for her even friendship

[CH1YO]

Finkelhor should be afforded the last word on the topic, he is the best.

[`cyn]

1. What is your opinion on *****? Do you think it's natural/unnatural?

I believe people can be born *****. I believe that it is a negative genetic mutation, like any sexuality other than heterosexuality.

2. Do you think the study/statistics are correct or not?

I don't think so.

3. Do you know anyone that admits to being attracted to children? If so, do you think they're really that different?

I visit 4chan a lot. There seem to be a lot of admitted ***** there. As I stated above, I believe ***** is simply a negative genetic mutation. It is no different than homosexuality to me, in terms of how different I think it is.

The difference between ***** and homosexuality, however, is that homosexuals can consent. Children (<12-13) cannot.

EDIT: Scanning over his page, it appears that a lot of people haven't the faintest clue about childhood development. Google 'formal operational stage', will you?

[CH1YO]

`cyn

1. What is your opinion on *****? Do you think it's natural/unnatural?

I believe people can be born *****. I believe that it is a negative genetic mutation, like any sexuality other than heterosexuality.

2. Do you think the study/statistics are correct or not?

I don't think so.

3. Do you know anyone that admits to being attracted to children? If so, do you think they're really that different?

I visit 4chan a lot. There seem to be a lot of admitted ***** there. As I stated above, I believe ***** is simply a negative genetic mutation. It is no different than homosexuality to me, in terms of how different I think it is.

The difference between ***** and homosexuality, however, is that homosexuals can consent. Children (<12-13) cannot.

EDIT: Scanning over his page, it appears that a lot of people haven't the faintest clue about childhood development. Google 'formal operational stage', will you?

It's not innate and it can be corrected.

Statistics are never correct.

It is intrinsically different to homosexuality, it is paraphillic.

Piaget is perhaps the single most overrated psychologist of all time, you can do better than that.

[Orphan_Shadow]

Disturbing... I wonder what causes someone to be attracted to children... neutral

[CH1YO]

EmotionallyInconsistent

Disturbing... I wonder what causes someone to be attracted to children... neutral

They s**t be ******** up.

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

Quean

I realize the study is biased, being all male and only college students.

You're incorrect, males are most commonly molesters due to the way their sex cell is, it varies from a female's sex cell.

[CH1YO]

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Quean

I realize the study is biased, being all male and only college students.

You're incorrect, males are most commonly molesters due to the way their sex cell is, it varies from a female's sex cell.

What in the would do you mean by sex cell?

Cause is indeterminate anyhow.

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

CH1YO

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Quean

I realize the study is biased, being all male and only college students.

You're incorrect, males are most commonly molesters due to the way their sex cell is, it varies from a female's sex cell.

What in the would do you mean by sex cell?

Cause is indeterminate anyhow.

Well, I know I at least mean something scientific when I say sex cell, because some men need to take medication so there sex cell is similar to a female's sex cell. So it depends, on what the book I was reading means by sex cell.