Thoughts on Feminism

[kd_bby]

What are your thoughts on feminism? Do you think this is a great thing for everyone or does it have flaws? Please don't bash other ideas. And don't be rude about it. People are allowed to have opinions, even if they are terrible.

[BuiltWilt]

Like anything else, it must be done in moderation. I don't mind the idea of feminism or the advocating of it; what I do mind is when the men-bashing begins.

Anything that turns radically violent (physically or ideologically) is dangerous not only to the movement, but also to society as it garners opposing parties for such behavior.

But my opinion on the general idea of feminism? It's a good thing. Regardless of what anyone says, there's still problems in society pertaining to women. I'm not going to lie, the idea of a "Men's world" is still in position. Of course things have gotten much better than before, but the past rings vibrant like a bitter burn of vodka.

[kd_bby]

BuiltWilt

Like anything else, it must be done in moderation. I don't mind the idea of feminism or the advocating of it; what I do mind is when the men-bashing begins.

Anything that turns radically violent (physically or ideologically) is dangerous not only to the movement, but also to society as it garners opposing parties for such behavior.

But my opinion on the general idea of feminism? It's a good thing. Regardless of what anyone says, there's still problems in society pertaining to women. I'm not going to lie, the idea of a "Men's world" is still in position. Of course things have gotten much better than before, but the past rings vibrant like a bitter burn of vodka.

Well said.

[Anarchist Daughter]

I think the idea of feminism is a great thing! It's just when people start taking it too far and start talking down on men. Woman's rights is a great thing but it shouldn't involve degrading another gender.

[X of Castigation]

BuiltWilt

Like anything else, it must be done in moderation. I.

How does one do feminism?And how does one moderate one's doing of feminism? Is there a feminism metre one can peruse in order to ensure moderation of one's feminism?

[BuiltWilt]

Senator Armstrong

BuiltWilt

Like anything else, it must be done in moderation. I.

How does one do feminism?And how does one moderate one's doing of feminism? Is there a feminism metre one can peruse in order to ensure moderation of one's feminism?

First question: People advocate feminism.

Second question:
moderation
Syllabification: mod·er·a·tion
Pronunciation: /ˌmädəˈrāSHən /
NOUN

1The avoidance of excess or extremes, especially in one’s behavior or political opinions

Third question: That's just being silly now lol.

[X of Castigation]

BuiltWilt

Senator Armstrong

BuiltWilt

Like anything else, it must be done in moderation. I.

How does one do feminism?And how does one moderate one's doing of feminism? Is there a feminism metre one can peruse in order to ensure moderation of one's feminism?

First question: People advocate feminism.

Second question:
moderation
Syllabification: mod·er·a·tion
Pronunciation: /ˌmädəˈrāSHən /
NOUN

1The avoidance of excess or extremes, especially in one’s behavior or political opinions

Third question: That's just being silly now lol.

Honestly, I thought your post was stupid nonsense.

[BuiltWilt]

Senator Armstrong

BuiltWilt

Senator Armstrong

BuiltWilt

Like anything else, it must be done in moderation. I.

How does one do feminism?And how does one moderate one's doing of feminism? Is there a feminism metre one can peruse in order to ensure moderation of one's feminism?

First question: People advocate feminism.

Second question:
moderation
Syllabification: mod·er·a·tion
Pronunciation: /ˌmädəˈrāSHən /
NOUN

1The avoidance of excess or extremes, especially in one’s behavior or political opinions

Third question: That's just being silly now lol.

Honestly, I thought your post was stupid nonsense.

Lol. Alright. emotion_facepalm

[Spike_Flair]

I think the whole third-wave feminist movement is an inappropriate response to real issues currently taking place.
Modern feminism has become a movement based on trying to establish an equal level of cultural respect between men and women by prohibiting and/or shaming anything that may depict women in an unflattering or disrespectful light.

Simply, you CANNOT enforce respect, otherwise it's not respect. That's a principle that extends to all people regardless of gender.
Respect is also an extremely relative term that varies from person-to-person. This is why some people see pornography as disrespectful toward women because it depicts a woman being "objectified" as a sex-object, and others see pornography as respectful because it allows men and women to equally choose to do as they wish with their own bodies.
The modern feminist movement wants to abolish anything that disrespects women simply because they want a sense of respect that they think men are receiving and they aren't.
If I felt others were receiving respect and I wasn't, and I began demanding that everyone begin revering me for who I am as a person without ever saying anything disrespectful about me or viewing me in a way I don't want to be viewed, that doesn't make me a progressive, that just makes me an a*****e.

Any group that believes censorship is the way to fix problems IS the problem.

[kd_bby]

Spike_Flair

I think the whole third-wave feminist movement is an inappropriate response to real issues currently taking place.
Modern feminism has become a movement based on trying to establish an equal level of cultural respect between men and women by prohibiting and/or shaming anything that may depict women in an unflattering or disrespectful light.

Simply, you CANNOT enforce respect, otherwise it's not respect. That's a principle that extends to all people regardless of gender.
Respect is also an extremely relative term that varies from person-to-person. This is why some people see pornography as disrespectful toward women because it depicts a woman being "objectified" as a sex-object, and others see pornography as respectful because it allows men and women to equally choose to do as they wish with their own bodies.
The modern feminist movement wants to abolish anything that disrespects women simply because they want a sense of respect that they think men are receiving and they aren't.
If I felt others were receiving respect and I wasn't, and I began demanding that everyone begin revering me for who I am as a person without ever saying anything disrespectful about me or viewing me in a way I don't want to be viewed, that doesn't make me a progressive, that just makes me an a*****e.

Any group that believes censorship is the way to fix problems IS the problem.

I have never thought about it that way. That's actually a really great point. Thanks for your input biggrin

[the red pool]

ok, i'm just typing up this response because i see so many posts here about "censorship" and "man-hating".

imagine an extremely sexist guy scrolling through twitter one night. he, of course, would never acknowledge he's sexist. he might even think of himself as chivalrous. he sees a tweet made by a woman, that says "i'm sick and tired of being treated like trash by men".

what's his first thought? "not ALL men are like that! how dare you accuse me of being sexist! feminists are so unreasonable!"

now, imagine that the tweet was worded differently. "i hate being treated like trash by some men."

what would his reaction be then? most likely: "well, THOSE men are bad. but i'm obviously not like them so it's ok."

which wording provokes more thought? which reveals more through the reader's response?

if the guy really was as "chivalrous" as he thinks he is, he would instead react to the first tweet calmly, and think something along the lines of: "maybe she's had a bad encounter today. i know she doesn't hate every single man."

all those phrases like "men are pigs" and "kill all men" - they're not all-encompassing, and they're powerless. if a girl says one of them, she could literally be abused or murdered. she doesn't yet have the social power to have those opinions readily accepted.

if a man says "i'm going to kill any girl that rejects me", well, guess what? he'll receive public support. (it's elliot rodger's "retribution" video, so warning for murder. just scroll down to the new comments section.)

so my point is: just because women can say something like "i hate men" in small communities on tumblr, doesn't mean they can do that in the rest of the world. don't act like there's any harm done to men through those phrases, other than hurt feelings. and definitely don't equate those hurt feelings to the discrimination women face daily.

[kd_bby]

What I am getting from all these comments is basically that feminism is bad because it practically destroys men. However, that is not true feminism. Feminism is the equality of men and women. Therefore, if a woman were bashing on a man and claiming it to be feminism, she would be wrong, she would also just be a bully. It is important that everyone learn the difference between real feminism and whatever that other "feminism" is. heart

[Wed To Insanity]

kd_bby

It is important that everyone learn the difference between real feminism and whatever that other "feminism" is. heart

gaia_nitemareleft

The extremist feminists have made it rather hard to bring up the subject without most people, men and women alike, putting up their defenses.
That "other 'feminism'" is this.
A couple bad apples have spoiled a good cause.
I am all for letting people support the equality for men and women, but it is a subject I don't touch because of the negative connotation it carries.

gaia_nitemareright

[AvenirLegacy]

A few bad apples have turn the movement from a great idea to this:

[Pandarchist]

First off, I don't want to offend anyone. Just want to make that clear before anyone misunderstands. I think feminism is good to have, I mean, who the hell am I to say it's wrong to think the way feminists do?

However, that's all fine and dandy but what if feminists take things too far? Personally I have been attacked by women who call themselves feminists; I have seen other men being attacked for no damn reason. Numerous times have I heard a feminist say something along the lines of "It's because you're a guy, you don't understand." or "We're being oppressed by men, and just because you're a man, you oppress us as a group." Personally, I think that's bull. I'm not saying all feminists are like this but I've met many who are like this. I don't even think it's about equal rights anymore. Anyway, I don't want to involve myself in this, so I choose to keep my mouth shut whenever a feminist is barking at a single man for no real reason.