Pansexuality is a stupid label

[La Veuve Zin]

ChiyuriYami

Heterosexual are people who are interested by the physical apearance of the oposite sex.
Homosexual are people who are interested by the physical apearance of the same sex.
Bisexual are just people who are interested by both physical apearance of each sex.

it's just a matter of preferance..

to me been pansexual is just to not place my personnal interest in the physical appearce of the other person as a trait to choosing someone...
To me, been either Hetero, homo or bi is like saying you don't actually like the other person, you just like their body... If you liked someone, the body shouldn't matter..

Oh, please. Get off your high horse. Nobody, not you, not any human being, disregards appearance when determining sexual attraction. I'm guessing you're a virgin.

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La Veuve Zin

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La Veuve Zin

Friend Of The Squids

rolleyes Okay, wow. Seriously guys, it's not that complicated. I'm pansexual. Pansexual basically means you are attracted, both sexually and emotionally, to all genders, sexes, combinations and variations of the genders and sexes, transgendered people of all types, hermaphrodites and androgynes.

You haven't explained how this is different from being an open-minded bisexual.

If you like chocolate ice cream, vanilla ice cream, and chocolate and vanilla swirled together, how many ice cream flavors do you like?

Problem.

Neutrois. People that have had their sex neutralized. They don't have characteristics of either primary sex. So how would that analogy work?

[La Veuve Zin]

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La Veuve Zin

If you like chocolate ice cream, vanilla ice cream, and chocolate and vanilla swirled together, how many ice cream flavors do you like?

Problem.

Neutrois. People that have had their sex neutralized. They don't have characteristics of either primary sex. So how would that analogy work?

If a person is attracted to them, that person apparently doesn't insist on a partner having specific sex characteristics. If a guy were attracted to them and attracted to men, he could still be considered homosexual, since he would be attracted to people who are male and people who don't have a sex. It would be kind of the equivalent of unflavored ice cream. If you like only vanilla and unflavored, you only like one flavor.

[iPALINDROME]

i think they're trying to say they're attracted to who the person is, and not what gender they are. so they can be attracted to any gender, but usually just because of who the person is strictly. that's my thoughts anyways.

[Rayne Nightrose]

I've had an argument with someone about this before.

Generally, bisexual is a person who is attracted to both men and women. Thus the term BIsexual (Bi meaning two).

Being pansexual means you are "gender-blind". You take no gender preference, whether the person is male, female, transgender or a hermaphrodite.

[Rayne Nightrose]

Blackest Flames

I've come across bis that are open-minded to things that go beyond gender and also come across bis who are asexual, that just look at their personality alone and it's the same for the others who are sexual.

That means they technically aren't bisexual. They are asexual or pansexual.

Blackest Flames

Though I don't think relationships would even work if it was only based on sexual needs. That's what prostitution is for.

You can have a sexual relationship.
And prostitution is a paying job, not a sexual relationship.

[FuzzyBlueElf]

Rayne Nightrose

Blackest Flames

I've come across bis that are open-minded to things that go beyond gender and also come across bis who are asexual, that just look at their personality alone and it's the same for the others who are sexual.

That means they technically aren't bisexual. They are asexual or pansexual.

Blackest Flames

Though I don't think relationships would even work if it was only based on sexual needs. That's what prostitution is for.

You can have a sexual relationship.
And prostitution is a paying job, not a sexual relationship.

I'm sorry, but since when has your first answer become a semantic reality? Who the hell changed the definition of bisexual? Bisexual has always been the "other" category. I like men. I like women. I like both/other.

And transexuality is still not a sex issues; it's a gender issue that sometimes crosses into sex alteration. Also, to the high-horsed pansexual, when did hetero/homo/bi sexual relationships begin to discount personality from the equation? Um... never since I've been alive.

[Rayne Nightrose]

FuzzyBlueElf

Rayne Nightrose

Blackest Flames

I've come across bis that are open-minded to things that go beyond gender and also come across bis who are asexual, that just look at their personality alone and it's the same for the others who are sexual.

That means they technically aren't bisexual. They are asexual or pansexual.

Blackest Flames

Though I don't think relationships would even work if it was only based on sexual needs. That's what prostitution is for.

You can have a sexual relationship.
And prostitution is a paying job, not a sexual relationship.

I'm sorry, but since when has your first answer become a semantic reality? Who the hell changed the definition of bisexual? Bisexual has always been the "other" category. I like men. I like women. I like both/other.

And transexuality is still not a sex issues; it's a gender issue that sometimes crosses into sex alteration. Also, to the high-horsed pansexual, when did hetero/homo/bi sexual relationships begin to discount personality from the equation? Um... never since I've been alive.

Bisexual has always been bisexual. Look it up in the dictionary.

I never "discounted" personality from anything. I simply corrected a misconception. If you need to know the definition of relationship, you can look that up as well.

[Rayne Nightrose]

Oh and FuzzyBlueElf, I deeply appriciate your need to be condescending and prejudice to my personal opinion, so I decided to Google your requested information. Maybe my "pansexual" beliefs don't mean much to you, but hopefully the LGBT community can offer some insight.

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The difference between bisexuality and pansexuality isn't just how you choose your partner.

Bisexuality is being attracted to both binary genders, ie. both male and female.

Pansexuality is being attracted to people of any or no gender, ie. male, female, bi-gendered, intersexed, gender queer etc.

I'm not sure where you got this "Pansexual people say Bisexual people are only interested in the sexual aspects of a person" or whatever, that's not true at all.

Excuse me if I came off as one of those people myself, as I said, I was correcting a misconception that people dive into a relationship based on another's personality.

The term relationship is general. You can have a social relationship, sexual relationship, etc.

If you have any more questions I'd be glad to continue this "heated argument" as long as you try to understand my beliefs and try not to shove yours down my throat.

[FuzzyBlueElf]

haha.. I'm not discounting your opinion at all. I just asked why pansexuality as a label is necessary. It just seems really excessive. I know gay men who self-identify as gay but could/would see themselves with a trans/intersex or even woman if the shoe ends up fitting. These people are open-minded about the relationships they form in life, but they know they are physically attracted to men to a large extent.

I just don't get why pansexual is needed as a label. It complicates the realities of sexual attraction, and often does (even if unintentionally) create disunion in the queer community in regards to the understanding of bisexuality.

And as previously mentioned, it seems more to me a philosophy than a sexuality. Which is fine, but I feel like it's a label that is being used to just cover a whole slew of personal feelings about gender, which, ought to be a discussion rather than a label.

[Rayne Nightrose]

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That means they technically aren't bisexual. They are asexual or pansexual.

Quite frankly, the only time I've heard "gender blind" was in reference to another definition of bisexuality, which was long before I've heard anything similar to it. Apparently, things have changed. Whatever I guess.

But let's take your definition for a moment and say that they have pansexual leanings. For example, they're attracted to both sexes yet can also can be gender blind at times or most of the time, when personality is involved.

I don't even see the benefit of putting restrictions on bis of only being attracted to both sexes, when others like them can/already are flexible in other categories? That's what I was trying to say earlier. Have it your way though.

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You can have a sexual relationship. And prostitution is a paying job, not sexual relationship.

Never said that prostitution was a sexual relationship. I didn't mean to come off that way.

Well, I never knew Pansexuality existed myself until recently O_o

Then I looked into it and it made a lot of sense.

[Rayne Nightrose]

FuzzyBlueElf

haha.. I'm not discounting your opinion at all. I just asked why pansexuality as a label is necessary. It just seems really excessive. I know gay men who self-identify as gay but could/would see themselves with a trans/intersex or even woman if the shoe ends up fitting. These people are open-minded about the relationships they form in life, but they know they are physically attracted to men to a large extent.

I just don't get why pansexual is needed as a label. It complicates the realities of sexual attraction, and often does (even if unintentionally) create disunion in the queer community in regards to the understanding of bisexuality.

And as previously mentioned, it seems more to me a philosophy than a sexuality. Which is fine, but I feel like it's a label that is being used to just cover a whole slew of personal feelings about gender, which, ought to be a discussion rather than a label.

Ok, now you're starting to make sense lol

If you say that about pansexuality, then why can't we just determine what gender we're attracted to by saying "I like men and women" or whatever.

I suppose categorizing your gender preference is the same as metal music.

There's heavy metal, nu metal, black metal, etc. But they're all still the same.

[EpsilonZero]

I would view it mostly as a slight difference in nuance.

Pansexual is a term that's used a lot of times by people who just don't know what they are attracted to, but that feel they are willing to try anything regardless of circumstance.

A bisexual knows that they are attracted to both genders and seeks relationships with both. A pansexual likes the the idea of being able to date anybody, but they're not really sure if they would actually be attracted to both. (Not to mention it sounds nicer than bi-curious. xp ).

And of course, as many others have said, it also means that the person would be willing to engage in relations with anyone, including hermaphrodites and transgendered persons.