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Not even sure where this belongs, can't sleep and the subject is ingrained in my mind.
SO i ask you gaians, what is more important to you, does love trump sex or does sex trump love.
Is there an age difference in opinion.
Why?

Edit: Sorry i think i worded that wrong in the first place, Love vs Lust might be better, in which case i am almost sure there has already been a dozen of these debates.

Is society following a trend to hurt a person before they can be hurt, or is there just no place of old ideology of love and romance?

Perhaps there is no need for this debate at all, what do you think?
OP you will never have to worry about this question.

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They are different "needs" like asking food or water, society is the only reason anyone groups them because it has tended toward villainizing those who meet those needs in separate ways.

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They are different "needs" like asking food or water, society is the only reason anyone groups them because it has tended toward villainizing those who meet those needs in separate ways.


It seems as though society views sex as an end all be all of social relationships, the way of courting as our grandparents I feel has been thrown out the window.

Do people even want emotionaly developing relationships with one another anymore, or is instant gratafication of forefilling ones lust more important.

Im no stranger to either, call me old fasion how ever i feel quality trumps quantity. Am i alone in this?

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OP you will never have to worry about this question.


This humble monkey is confused by this statement, is it flamitory or endearing.

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Damien_Hargreaves
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They are different "needs" like asking food or water, society is the only reason anyone groups them because it has tended toward villainizing those who meet those needs in separate ways.


It seems as though society views sex as an end all be all of social relationships, the way of courting as our grandparents I feel has been thrown out the window.

Do people even want emotionaly developing relationships with one another anymore, or is instant gratafication of forefilling ones lust more important.

Im no stranger to either, call me old fasion how ever i feel quality trumps quantity. Am i alone in this?


Not alone at all, every relationship I've had has been unique. The upside being variety in experiences but socially I rarely fit the molds people think they want.

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Damien_Hargreaves
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They are different "needs" like asking food or water, society is the only reason anyone groups them because it has tended toward villainizing those who meet those needs in separate ways.


It seems as though society views sex as an end all be all of social relationships, the way of courting as our grandparents I feel has been thrown out the window.

Do people even want emotionaly developing relationships with one another anymore, or is instant gratafication of forefilling ones lust more important.

Im no stranger to either, call me old fasion how ever i feel quality trumps quantity. Am i alone in this?


Yes *pats on the back* You're a rare breed OP, you're unique. Nobody has ever thought of that before.

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They are different "needs" like asking food or water, society is the only reason anyone groups them because it has tended toward villainizing those who meet those needs in separate ways.


It seems as though society views sex as an end all be all of social relationships, the way of courting as our grandparents I feel has been thrown out the window.

Do people even want emotionaly developing relationships with one another anymore, or is instant gratafication of forefilling ones lust more important.

Im no stranger to either, call me old fasion how ever i feel quality trumps quantity. Am i alone in this?


Yes *pats on the back* You're a rare breed OP, you're unique. Nobody has ever thought of that before.


Did i ask for your failed attempt at being condescending, no.
I'm asking you if you feel this way, what is your experience and how do you view this sort of social interactions.

Do you want to give me an intelligent answer or just pat yourself on the back because of a superiority issue.

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Damien_Hargreaves
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They are different "needs" like asking food or water, society is the only reason anyone groups them because it has tended toward villainizing those who meet those needs in separate ways.


It seems as though society views sex as an end all be all of social relationships, the way of courting as our grandparents I feel has been thrown out the window.

Do people even want emotionaly developing relationships with one another anymore, or is instant gratafication of forefilling ones lust more important.

Im no stranger to either, call me old fasion how ever i feel quality trumps quantity. Am i alone in this?


Yes *pats on the back* You're a rare breed OP, you're unique. Nobody has ever thought of that before.


Did i ask for your failed attempt at being condescending, no.
I'm asking you if you feel this way, what is your experience and how do you view this sort of social interactions.

Do you want to give me an intelligent answer or just pat yourself on the back because of a superiority issue.


I will gladly answer to your query even though it is irrelevent. You ask the question looking for attention by pointing out that you feel your "old fashioned" cognitions stand out when they actually don't.

Don't pretend something you are not. We're all here to ******** because we're biologically programmed to. Love is just a social construct built around attachment principles that are just conceptualisations of reality. Humans are not built for monogamy.

Here's my "intelligent" answer.

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They are different "needs" like asking food or water, society is the only reason anyone groups them because it has tended toward villainizing those who meet those needs in separate ways.


It seems as though society views sex as an end all be all of social relationships, the way of courting as our grandparents I feel has been thrown out the window.

Do people even want emotionaly developing relationships with one another anymore, or is instant gratafication of forefilling ones lust more important.

Im no stranger to either, call me old fasion how ever i feel quality trumps quantity. Am i alone in this?


Yes *pats on the back* You're a rare breed OP, you're unique. Nobody has ever thought of that before.


Did i ask for your failed attempt at being condescending, no.
I'm asking you if you feel this way, what is your experience and how do you view this sort of social interactions.

Do you want to give me an intelligent answer or just pat yourself on the back because of a superiority issue.


I will gladly answer to your query even though it is irrelevent. You ask the question looking for attention by pointing out that you feel your "old fashioned" cognitions stand out when they actually don't.

Don't pretend something you are not. We're all here to ******** because we're biologically programmed to. Love is just a social construct built around attachment principles that are just conceptualisations of reality. Humans are not built for monogamy.

Here's my "intelligent" answer.


No once again you decide to make personal attacks, I was asking posters for their experience not seeking attention for what ever reason. It was a subject that became stuck in my mind and i wanted to know what peoples honest take on the subject was via again their trial and error or preference.

If you don't have something constructive to say why say anything, do you really believe love is a construct of man to oppress through emotional constraint?

The validity of my question still stands, I want to know if love exists in this world or if people would rather as you say just ********. Is there a place for romance of ideas not just the physical.

Your definition so far of the human condition is pretty drab and I'm sorry if someone hurt you but leave the arguments at the door, I'm not looking to fight opinions but better my own.

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They are different "needs" like asking food or water, society is the only reason anyone groups them because it has tended toward villainizing those who meet those needs in separate ways.


It seems as though society views sex as an end all be all of social relationships, the way of courting as our grandparents I feel has been thrown out the window.

Do people even want emotionaly developing relationships with one another anymore, or is instant gratafication of forefilling ones lust more important.

Im no stranger to either, call me old fasion how ever i feel quality trumps quantity. Am i alone in this?


Yes *pats on the back* You're a rare breed OP, you're unique. Nobody has ever thought of that before.


Did i ask for your failed attempt at being condescending, no.
I'm asking you if you feel this way, what is your experience and how do you view this sort of social interactions.

Do you want to give me an intelligent answer or just pat yourself on the back because of a superiority issue.


I will gladly answer to your query even though it is irrelevent. You ask the question looking for attention by pointing out that you feel your "old fashioned" cognitions stand out when they actually don't.

Don't pretend something you are not. We're all here to ******** because we're biologically programmed to. Love is just a social construct built around attachment principles that are just conceptualisations of reality. Humans are not built for monogamy.

Here's my "intelligent" answer.


No once again you decide to make personal attacks, I was asking posters for their experience not seeking attention for what ever reason. It was a subject that became stuck in my mind and i wanted to know what peoples honest take on the subject was via again their trial and error or preference.

If you don't have something constructive to say why say anything, do you really believe love is a construct of man to oppress through emotional constraint?

The validity of my question still stands, I want to know if love exists in this world or if people would rather as you say just ********. Is there a place for romance of ideas not just the physical.

Your definition so far of the human condition is pretty drab and I'm sorry if someone hurt you but leave the arguments at the door, I'm not looking to fight opinions but better my own.



Savagesarge's definition of the human condition can be summarized by its his opinion backed up by some form of research. I'm not a hundred percent sure what or where his sources are from. I can say I think his tone comes off a bit sarcastic and lacks an empathic tone. It's not that he's attacking you, but that is my personal opinion. I could be wrong.


To answer your question, Damien_Hargreaves, love or sex?

My thoughts, it's vague. Or at least the options given are.
Love? An emotion that is found is more than just humankind though since humans are the only species known to be able to communicate in a more advanced manner than other animal forms, it's very complex. Right down to the way each individual mind perceives the topic.

As for sex, another spectrum which is very complex and simplified by choice A or B. I'm a virgin by choice and considerably at the present moment aromantic.




To summarize my "theory" love or sex is a matter of preference.

That bring me to few questions of my own for you Damien.
You wonder if love exists in this world? That question alone is a very pessimistic. As a suggestion, try rethinking how that question is viewed by a reader who has never met you or heard your story.
I do sense that you've been through quite a bit of pain. I can somewhat relate.

Yes, some people do just want to have sex. Others may prefer to "get to know one"




Yikes, I talk WAAAAAAAY too much. sweatdrop

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Savagesarge's definition of the human condition can be summarized by its his opinion backed up by some form of research. I'm not a hundred percent sure what or where his sources are from. I can say I think his tone comes off a bit sarcastic and lacks an empathic tone. It's not that he's attacking you, but that is my personal opinion. I could be wrong.


To answer your question, Damien_Hargreaves, love or sex?

My thoughts, it's vague. Or at least the options given are.
Love? An emotion that is found is more than just humankind though since humans are the only species known to be able to communicate in a more advanced manner than other animal forms, it's very complex. Right down to the way each individual mind perceives the topic.

As for sex, another spectrum which is very complex and simplified by choice A or B. I'm a virgin by choice and considerably at the present moment aromantic.




To summarize my "theory" love or sex is a matter of preference.

That bring me to few questions of my own for you Damien.
You wonder if love exists in this world? That question alone is a very pessimistic. As a suggestion, try rethinking how that question is viewed by a reader who has never met you or heard your story.
I do sense that you've been through quite a bit of pain. I can somewhat relate.

Yes, some people do just want to have sex. Others may prefer to "get to know one"




Yikes, I talk WAAAAAAAY too much. sweatdrop


The topic has been digesting in my mind for some time, the town i grew up in was and still is riddled with incestuous relationships of friends sleeping around on each others partners for sure pleasure of the moment. I feel like im living in a world where rather than taking the time to develop meaningful bonds with the people around us, those same people would prefer to take a stance like "I'm going to hurt you before you can hurt me"

I feel people are afraid to stop masquerading as their ego which has been developed poorly through watching idols in the media or other trendy sources without the capability to discern why it may be wrong to act that way.

Look when i walk through my town on an everyday bases i see actual 12 year old's standing around in less fabric than it would take to cloth an infant and spitting on older females while flicking their over styled hair back to show their professionally done salon makeup.

The average male to female age ratio here even when i was an adolescent has remained.
((Female 12 years of age - male 20 years of age))

I am thoroughly disgusted.

As for my own relationships, my current ex decided to moonlight as an escort to further a drug habit she thought i didn't know she had, conceived another mans baby on my 25th birthday, aborted it, sent me disturbing photos of it on a bathroom floor, sent me the cemetery write up, but never once declared me the father.

As for the next, rather than confide in me about a medical condition I find her behind closed doors while visiting with ((so called)) friends. Confiding in him before nearly ******** him, being caught in the act and apologizing profusely .

"It's your poor choice in female partners" That may be but how do you choose right when even for 5 years prior I choose to be celibate, I observed other peoples relationships to see if this happened outside of myself and it did, every time.

Before i choose this i gave in to lust an temptation myself, in adolescence i could have cared less because at that point i too had a "I will hurt you before you can hurt me." Mentality and not unjustly so, it was brought on from this stupid cycle in the first place.

What is my parents background. Well i am a b*****d, my mother is a street walker.

Should i have faith that love exists, i want it to i really do.
Should i not want to pursue a connection with some one in a deep emotional, intellectual AND then physical way.

Why does it seem this is a world of one night stands?

Why are children popping out like trendy hand bags?

and finally yes i took his response as a personal attack as instead of answering the questions i repetitively asked he came off sarcastic with a "Yes OP you are the only one in the world that thinks this way, you are special." approach, and a "You are just seeking attention"

This is not the case, what i seek is a piece of mind. Will i obtain it, lets see.

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❝ I don't think it is a 'versus' thing. You can just as easily have love without sex as sex without love. Neither way of thought is any better than the other. ❞
Lust or sex is more common, but love is a million times better

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