Interesting Psychological question.

[Ninja Spoon]

All I can say is this, then I'm probably gonna just go:

Girls LEARN about what a real relationship is supposed to look like by watching their parents, just like boys do. If a girl grows up seeing a father that's a total jackass, then as an adult, it will basically be engrained in her head that THAT is what a real relationship is supposed to be and anything else would just feel strange. Obviously, this doesn't apply to everyone (because no psychological "evidence","statistic", or otherwise can possibly apply to every single person), but I think if we're speaking in the most generic of terms as this, then this would be the situation. Is it possible to change her habits and start dating better people? Of course. Doesn't mean it'll be easy, though.

[AlliBalli52]

Not all women grow up with fathers, or even father figures for that matter. I think as she grows up, she chooses the man she wants to be with by her own standards, although the women in her life probably designed some kind of "prince charming" in her thoughts. Once she has found someone who fits the basic description, she's good to go.

[chobitgirl61884]

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I am very interested in Psychology and so I would like to give a situation and a question at the end and everyone that would like to talk about this topic or any other or even to debate about a psychological topic please post.

I once heard that a woman's relationships are based on her relationship with her father. Well if that relationship isn't very good and the woman has bad romantic relationships do you think it is her fault? Who do you blame? Do you blame anyone?

Please feel free to say what you wish about this topic or any other topics that are about Psychology.

Thanks,
Twi

I think Carl Jung addresses this issue. He claims that the male infant first establishes a close relationship with his mother and as the child grows up this relationship becomes restrictive and frustrated. Due to this, this mother complex is repressed into the unconscious. As males have a feminine side to them, their feminine side is formed in the ego. Femininity is not yet that accepted in society which is the reason why males' feminine traits and attitudes are repressed into the unconscious. Therefore, man's perception of women and his feelings and behaviors towards them are directed by the unconscious.

The result is the man finds a woman that resembles his mother and who always fulfills the needs of his anima (femininity).

Terms:

ego - the conscious mind

repressed - to reject from the conscious mind into the unconscious

personal unconscious - is where experiences that were once conscious are stored



Let me quote from Calvin Hall's Theories of Personality book, pp. 128-129:

"AN EXAMPLE OF INTERACTION AMONG THE SYSTEMS OF PERSONALITY

To illustrate the kinds of interactions that take place within the psyche, let us consider the relations between the anima [the feminine side of males] and the other systems of personality. Jung says "the whole nature of man presupposes woman..." (Jung, 1945, p. 188 ). The male infant, equipped with the archetype of woman, is instinctively attracted to the first woman he experiences, who is usually his mother. The establishing of a close relationship is nurtured, in turn, by the mother. However, as the child grows older these maternal bonds become restrictive and frustrated, if not actually dangerous to the child, so that the mother complex that has been formed in the ego is repressed into the personal unconscious.


At the same time this development is taking place, feminine traits and attitudes that has been implanted by the ego in the anima are also repressed because they are alien to the role that society expects them to play as a male. In other words, his femininity is repressed by a counterforce emanating from the persona and other archetypes.

As a result of these two acts of repression, the child's feelings for his mother and his femininity are driven from the ego into the personal unconscious. Thus, man's perception of women and his feelings and behavior toward them are directed by the combined forces of the personal and collective unconscious.

The integrative task imposed upon the ego as a consequence of the vicissitudes of the mother archetype and the feminine archetype (the anima) is to find the woman that resembles the mother imago and who always fulfills the needs of his anima. If he chooses a woman who is at variance with either or both of these unconscious models, he is headed for trouble because his conscious positive feelings for her will be disturbed by conscious negative feelings. They will make him dissatisfied with her and he will blame her for various fancied faults and shortcomings without being aware of the real reasons for his discontent. If the transcendent function is operating smoothly, it will unite all his contradictory impulses and cause him to select a mate with whom he can be happy.

All of the important decisions in life require that due consideration be given unconscious as well as conscious factors if they are to be successful. Jung says that a great deal of maladjustment and happiness are due to a one-sided development of personality that ignores important facets of human nature. These neglected facets create personality disturbances and irrational conduct.

For Jung, the personality is an exceedingly complex structure, not only are there numerous components--the number of possible archetypes and complexes, for example, is legion--but the interaction between these components are intricate and involved. No other personality theorist has evolved such a rich and complex description of the structure of personality."

[CH1YO]

chobitgirl61884

I think Carl Jung addresses this issue. He claims that the male infant first establishes a close relationship with his mother and as the child grows up this relationship becomes restrictive and frustrated. Due to this, this mother complex is repressed into the unconscious. As males have a feminine side to them, their feminine side is formed in the ego. Femininity is not yet that accepted in society which is the reason why males' feminine traits and attitudes are repressed into the unconscious. Therefore, man's perception of women and his feelings and behaviors towards them are directed by the unconscious.

The result is the man finds a woman that resembles his mother and who always fulfills the needs of his anima (femininity).

Terms:

ego - the conscious mind

repressed - to reject from the conscious mind into the unconscious

personal unconscious - is where experiences that were once conscious are stored

You might think that but that is very much Freud.

[chobitgirl61884]

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

I think Carl Jung addresses this issue. He claims that the male infant first establishes a close relationship with his mother and as the child grows up this relationship becomes restrictive and frustrated. Due to this, this mother complex is repressed into the unconscious. As males have a feminine side to them, their feminine side is formed in the ego. Femininity is not yet that accepted in society which is the reason why males' feminine traits and attitudes are repressed into the unconscious. Therefore, man's perception of women and his feelings and behaviors towards them are directed by the unconscious.

The result is the man finds a woman that resembles his mother and who always fulfills the needs of his anima (femininity).

Terms:

ego - the conscious mind

repressed - to reject from the conscious mind into the unconscious

personal unconscious - is where experiences that were once conscious are stored

You might think that but that is very much Freud.

Indeed. If I remember correctly, Freud and Jung used to be pals and Jung was a proponent of Freud's theories. However, as Jung did his own research he began to disagree with some of Freud's theories. And he went on to his own path. Their relations could be the result of some similarities in Jung's concepts with Freud's as Jung was influenced by Freud.

[CH1YO]

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

I think Carl Jung addresses this issue. He claims that the male infant first establishes a close relationship with his mother and as the child grows up this relationship becomes restrictive and frustrated. Due to this, this mother complex is repressed into the unconscious. As males have a feminine side to them, their feminine side is formed in the ego. Femininity is not yet that accepted in society which is the reason why males' feminine traits and attitudes are repressed into the unconscious. Therefore, man's perception of women and his feelings and behaviors towards them are directed by the unconscious.

The result is the man finds a woman that resembles his mother and who always fulfills the needs of his anima (femininity).

Terms:

ego - the conscious mind

repressed - to reject from the conscious mind into the unconscious

personal unconscious - is where experiences that were once conscious are stored

You might think that but that is very much Freud.

Indeed. If I remember correctly, Freud and Jung used to be pals and Jung was a proponent of Freud's theories. However, as Jung did his own research he began to disagree with some of Freud's theories. And he went on to his own path. Their relations could be the result of some similarities in Jung's concepts with Freud's as Jung was influenced by Freud.

Indeed. It does irk me though that Jung gets the credit for the better of Freud's work despite lacking his clarity of writing, brilliance or audacity.

[chobitgirl61884]

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

I think Carl Jung addresses this issue. He claims that the male infant first establishes a close relationship with his mother and as the child grows up this relationship becomes restrictive and frustrated. Due to this, this mother complex is repressed into the unconscious. As males have a feminine side to them, their feminine side is formed in the ego. Femininity is not yet that accepted in society which is the reason why males' feminine traits and attitudes are repressed into the unconscious. Therefore, man's perception of women and his feelings and behaviors towards them are directed by the unconscious.

The result is the man finds a woman that resembles his mother and who always fulfills the needs of his anima (femininity).

Terms:

ego - the conscious mind

repressed - to reject from the conscious mind into the unconscious

personal unconscious - is where experiences that were once conscious are stored

You might think that but that is very much Freud.

Indeed. If I remember correctly, Freud and Jung used to be pals and Jung was a proponent of Freud's theories. However, as Jung did his own research he began to disagree with some of Freud's theories. And he went on to his own path. Their relations could be the result of some similarities in Jung's concepts with Freud's as Jung was influenced by Freud.

Indeed. It does irk me though that Jung gets the credit for the better of Freud's work despite lacking his clarity of writing, brilliance or audacity.

Jung did disagree with Freud's libido as the source of motivations, and then here he developed a theory that is very similar to that Oedipus complex.

[CH1YO]

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

I think Carl Jung addresses this issue. He claims that the male infant first establishes a close relationship with his mother and as the child grows up this relationship becomes restrictive and frustrated. Due to this, this mother complex is repressed into the unconscious. As males have a feminine side to them, their feminine side is formed in the ego. Femininity is not yet that accepted in society which is the reason why males' feminine traits and attitudes are repressed into the unconscious. Therefore, man's perception of women and his feelings and behaviors towards them are directed by the unconscious.

The result is the man finds a woman that resembles his mother and who always fulfills the needs of his anima (femininity).

Terms:

ego - the conscious mind

repressed - to reject from the conscious mind into the unconscious

personal unconscious - is where experiences that were once conscious are stored

You might think that but that is very much Freud.

Indeed. If I remember correctly, Freud and Jung used to be pals and Jung was a proponent of Freud's theories. However, as Jung did his own research he began to disagree with some of Freud's theories. And he went on to his own path. Their relations could be the result of some similarities in Jung's concepts with Freud's as Jung was influenced by Freud.

Indeed. It does irk me though that Jung gets the credit for the better of Freud's work despite lacking his clarity of writing, brilliance or audacity.

Jung did disagree with Freud's libido as the source of motivations, and then here he developed a theory that is very similar to that Oedipus complex.

Adler did that actually, whilst Jung was still enamoured by Freud.

That theory is so similar to the Oedipus complex as it is the same thing, just in different language. "There is no female Oedipus complex: Presenting the Electra complex!"

[chobitgirl61884]

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

I think Carl Jung addresses this issue. He claims that the male infant first establishes a close relationship with his mother and as the child grows up this relationship becomes restrictive and frustrated. Due to this, this mother complex is repressed into the unconscious. As males have a feminine side to them, their feminine side is formed in the ego. Femininity is not yet that accepted in society which is the reason why males' feminine traits and attitudes are repressed into the unconscious. Therefore, man's perception of women and his feelings and behaviors towards them are directed by the unconscious.

The result is the man finds a woman that resembles his mother and who always fulfills the needs of his anima (femininity).

Terms:

ego - the conscious mind

repressed - to reject from the conscious mind into the unconscious

personal unconscious - is where experiences that were once conscious are stored

You might think that but that is very much Freud.

Indeed. If I remember correctly, Freud and Jung used to be pals and Jung was a proponent of Freud's theories. However, as Jung did his own research he began to disagree with some of Freud's theories. And he went on to his own path. Their relations could be the result of some similarities in Jung's concepts with Freud's as Jung was influenced by Freud.

Indeed. It does irk me though that Jung gets the credit for the better of Freud's work despite lacking his clarity of writing, brilliance or audacity.

Jung did disagree with Freud's libido as the source of motivations, and then here he developed a theory that is very similar to that Oedipus complex.

Adler did that actually, whilst Jung was still enamoured by Freud.

That theory is so similar to the Oedipus complex as it is the same thing, just in different language. "There is no female Oedipus complex: Presenting the Electra complex!"

Yes, however, I have not read Freud's works, so I cannot immediately accept his theory on the psychosexual stages of development. For example, the trauma of the female child of not having a protruding sex organ at three to five years.

[CH1YO]

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

Indeed. If I remember correctly, Freud and Jung used to be pals and Jung was a proponent of Freud's theories. However, as Jung did his own research he began to disagree with some of Freud's theories. And he went on to his own path. Their relations could be the result of some similarities in Jung's concepts with Freud's as Jung was influenced by Freud.

Indeed. It does irk me though that Jung gets the credit for the better of Freud's work despite lacking his clarity of writing, brilliance or audacity.

Jung did disagree with Freud's libido as the source of motivations, and then here he developed a theory that is very similar to that Oedipus complex.

Adler did that actually, whilst Jung was still enamoured by Freud.

That theory is so similar to the Oedipus complex as it is the same thing, just in different language. "There is no female Oedipus complex: Presenting the Electra complex!"

Yes, however, I have not read Freud's works, so I cannot immediately accept his theory on the psychosexual stages of development. For example, the trauma of the female child of not having a protruding sex organ at three to five years.

It's not a trauma so much as it I an anxiety. "Why does he get one of those and not me?"

[chobitgirl61884]

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

Adler did that actually, whilst Jung was still enamoured by Freud.

That theory is so similar to the Oedipus complex as it is the same thing, just in different language. "There is no female Oedipus complex: Presenting the Electra complex!"

Yes, however, I have not read Freud's works, so I cannot immediately accept his theory on the psychosexual stages of development. For example, the trauma of the female child of not having a protruding sex organ at three to five years.

It's not a trauma so much as it I an anxiety. "Why does he get one of those and not me?"

That sounds more realistic. I have a question that I want to ask you. May I ask your opinion on Jung's collective unconscious? I apologize for this but it's been gnawing at my mind for some time. Do you think it holds any possible truth? It seems to embrace the idea that latent memory can be passed down the generations. I find that puzzling and yet, I can't help thinking that maybe it's possible. He did undergo extensive study for his theories.

[CH1YO]

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

chobitgirl61884

CH1YO

Adler did that actually, whilst Jung was still enamoured by Freud.

That theory is so similar to the Oedipus complex as it is the same thing, just in different language. "There is no female Oedipus complex: Presenting the Electra complex!"

Yes, however, I have not read Freud's works, so I cannot immediately accept his theory on the psychosexual stages of development. For example, the trauma of the female child of not having a protruding sex organ at three to five years.

It's not a trauma so much as it I an anxiety. "Why does he get one of those and not me?"

That sounds more realistic. I have a question that I want to ask you. May I ask your opinion on Jung's collective unconscious? I apologize for this but it's been gnawing at my mind for some time. Do you think it holds any possible truth? It seems to embrace the idea that latent memory can be passed down the generations. I find that puzzling and yet, I can't help thinking that maybe it's possible. He did undergo extensive study for his theories.

It's about as plausible as when Freud used psychoanalytic theory to investigate the origin of the species.