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Then I'd honestly have to doubt her sincerity.
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FrancesFiasco Then I'd honestly have to doubt her sincerity. She did not tell me about it though. She is an open person okay. Which is good. |
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Sometimes the process of reporting a sexual assault is worse than the actual assault. Keep that in mind. I know you want to stop a rapist but if you take a recording of the victim to the cops, first of all they probably won't be able to do anything if she won't even want to testify, secondly, if it did go ahead, think of the embarrassment for her. If she wants to forget about it then let her, some people don't want to feel like a victim, and forcing them to, and putting the privacy of the assualt at risk (as if she had to go to the police station, her family might ask why), is often what makes rape worse.
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mrs_chester_bennington Sometimes the process of reporting a sexual assault is worse than the actual assault. Keep that in mind. I know you want to stop a rapist but if you take a recording of the victim to the cops, first of all they probably won't be able to do anything if she won't even want to testify, secondly, if it did go ahead, think of the embarrassment for her. If she wants to forget about it then let her, some people don't want to feel like a victim, and forcing them to, and putting the privacy of the assualt at risk (as if she had to go to the police station, her family might ask why), is often what makes rape worse. There is scientific proof IT is mentally UNHELATHY to blackout traumas, and that blacking out traumas does MORE harm than good, if blacked out for a certain amount of time. If she is going to admit to me about the abuse she wouldn't mind admitting it to the cops, because I don't know her well, and never meant her well, because she has a tenancy of upsetting me intentionally. |
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You know you can circumvent all of this and just report him. If an investigation goes underway and you tell them she is abused she may be psychologically profiled as a victim of abuse and you'll have a solid case.
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Shattered_Blood_Molecules FrancesFiasco Then I'd honestly have to doubt her sincerity. She did not tell me about it though. She is an open person okay. Which is good. Uh uh. This is not what I meant. What I mean is, people who have any experience of any sexual abuse do not tend to tell people, and they definitely mind people talking about it. Even if they are open. I know a girl who's open about everything but has a trauma like.this, and she"s barely told anyone. This is something she's been carrying for years, and she still can't bring herself to talk about it. Also, I have to pick you up on the "blacking out" memories thing. repression is a perfectly natural process, and it happens because your mind knows you can't deal with that situation at this point in life. Repressed memories are recovered when you're in a safe, stable situation and you will be able to deal with it without it causing as much damage. That being said, what would you think would be more detrimental to her mental health? Her having a few problems later in life when she can deal.with it, or you forcing her to confront a problem which her mind says she's not ready for? (Note: I said situation, I was not saying you'll make her face the criminal) |
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You know what? It's none of your business. The only person you care about in this situation is yourself, and proving that you're "not just making it up." You are promoting this under the guise of "helping her" when you are really just trying to force your own agenda.
Not to mention that videotaping someone without their permission can be an illegal and punishable offense in some states. |
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Jeorg Shattered_Blood_Molecules Jeorg Shattered_Blood_Molecules Jeorg It is amusing that Pheina is attempting to say the same as I am. What's even more amusing, however, is that your arguments for each contradict the other. So I am transferring to which post I quote, and am continuing my own position. You are a damaging individual. Attempting to record a confession without authorisation then publish it to authorities, and excuse it as morally sound is more ghastly than rape. You are far worse than the male you are attempting to persecute. Your crimes will be far worse than any his have been or will be. And yet you are justifying yourself with casting him down in such a manner? Is it too much to ask of you to handle the situation delicately, instead of what is more than likely your typical brutal form? If you are unable to, then perhaps you should not be involving yourself at all. There are far more able people in this world, and a plethora at that. Oh, the melodrama you provide me with! I am not even goiing to tell the authorities the person on the tape is her. It's not like showing them a tape of her confessing about attempting to be raped by someone is traumatizing. Someone who was almost raped can be traumatized by someone attempting to rape them though. It sounds like you don't know what rape means. Rape means when someone forces someone else to have sex with them, when the person does not want to have sex. I do apologise for your misunderstanding- I am, in fact, not as dense, uneducated, or blundering as you. The authorities will be requesting a name for the victim on the tape, else they will excuse the crime as two whimsical girls [and perhaps it is]. If you are to be condemning this male, then it will be required. Also, I would not blindly excuse the possibility of them also wanting to speak with her- perhaps even know if she allowed or knew of the film's existence... You may recieve punishments as well, and I pray that they are harsh. I will grant you that ignorance is bliss, but it is time for you to open wide those eyes of yours. This is reality. A would-be rape victim is being betrayed by having a 'friend' secretly videotape her confession and release it to adults. All for the mere reason that her friend is selfish and idiotic enough to disregard the girl's traumatisation for her own peace of mind in the field of her well-being. You are a naive idiot. You deserve to be cast into flames, broiled slowly until your skin blisters and cracks, and you slowly meet your end. Rape is nothing compared to what you are plotting to do. i think reporting what he did to her though, will prevent her from going through more abuse from him. Sometimes victims want to tell on what has happened to them but do not due to fear, of not being believed, I knew that was my case I even had a witness of the abuse I went through he DID NOTHING about it and didn't report the crime, and I was too scared to tell, and I could of even of died of some of the abuse I also got half-drowned badly by my abuser. I have a point in what I am saying. What I am doing is just trying to help the victim. It is a disgrace there some people who don't believe her Hmm... I hadn't thought anyone would be quite this dense. I have also suffered abuse. I have recieved far worse treatment than even I am willing to admit. Drowning would have been a blessing comparatively. So I also have validity in claiming that it is horridly traumatising for a victim to have their situation's reality forced upon them prematurely. Though you are attempting to help the victim, you are also so narcissistic that you cannot see what effects this will have. Do not assume her as similar to yourself- that is your most horrid blundering thus far. Please take note, however, that your method is your worst crime, and you should be punished severely for it. I personally think you must find it humorous for some odd reason to risk the girl I am referring to risk suffering again. I am assuming he will attempt to rape her again. Sometimes, people feel a whole lot better when they talk about what happened to them, even though they think that in the end it will make them feel worse. |
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WhitePlains You know what? It's none of your business. The only person you care about in this situation is yourself, and proving that you're "not just making it up." You are promoting this under the guise of "helping her" when you are really just trying to force your own agenda. Not to mention that videotaping someone without their permission can be an illegal and punishable offense in some states. |
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Op, I'm totally thinking she might freak out if you rat her out; so think very carefully about this. If you really think he's a BIG danger, go ahead. I don't think your plan will work though- people who've been hurt like that are often suspicious.
Is your friend talking about hurting herself or anything? If she is, for sure I would tell. Edit: Why don't you just tell on him? That would save her- she wouldn't have to come forwards unless she wanted to. Also, if you really want to help her, how about talking to her about riding another bus, getting some pepper spray, and otherwise keeping far, far away from him? Once she feels safe, and like he won't come after her, she's more likely to go to the Cops on her own. Think before you do anything... what if you taped her secretly, turned that in, and she got suicidal? |
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Shattered_Blood_Molecules Nicolaes Rose Just tell her that you care enough about her to want something done about it. Tell her you understand how embarrassing it is and how she must feel terrible, but if something isn't done then the b*****d will just do it again, and it may be to her. Keep your voice calm and quiet, don't yell or talk too fast. Just tell her you want to help her and that she needs to report it. If she won't do it, then she should at least let you help. Hmm..maybe, all though if she knows I want to report what happened she might be more hesitant to tell me, about the situation. Do you really think it's a good idea to, after she's been raped, as in forced into sex without her consent, to have you report it without her consent? Don't push it. She will be ready when she's ready. |
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Shattered_Blood_Molecules mrs_chester_bennington Sometimes the process of reporting a sexual assault is worse than the actual assault. Keep that in mind. I know you want to stop a rapist but if you take a recording of the victim to the cops, first of all they probably won't be able to do anything if she won't even want to testify, secondly, if it did go ahead, think of the embarrassment for her. If she wants to forget about it then let her, some people don't want to feel like a victim, and forcing them to, and putting the privacy of the assualt at risk (as if she had to go to the police station, her family might ask why), is often what makes rape worse. There is scientific proof IT is mentally UNHELATHY to blackout traumas, and that blacking out traumas does MORE harm than good, if blacked out for a certain amount of time. If she is going to admit to me about the abuse she wouldn't mind admitting it to the cops, because I don't know her well, and never meant her well, because she has a tenancy of upsetting me intentionally. Yes but forcing her to admit it to the cops and go through the often traumatic experience of prosecuting the rapist is going to be very unhealthy also. It is not the answer, unfortunate as that is. What she needs to do is talk to a professional councellor about it, that would be what's best for her. |
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Jeorg, I am doing what is best, for the victim's safety.
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