How do I make her admit so something is finally done??

[Pheina]

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Sometimes, people think they know what to do when they do not. She might think I shouldn't report what he has done to her I have to though. Sometimes, people think they will be more embarrassed about a situation than they are.

Things like these take a long time.
You should not report what he has done to her. She should.
Now, if you were a witness, then by all means you're free to report what you saw.
However, video taping her "confession" is different.
If she doesn't want to "confess", then that's her own choice and you just have to respect it. It may not be the best decision, but it's really just not your business to take action for her. :/
Honestly, why make her have to dwell on what happened and relive it again? Once the authorities are brought in, that's what happens. You have to relive it all over again.
I honestly think the best path is to just let her rest and heal and and decide what she wants to do when she's ready, instead of forcing it upon her.

[Jeorg]

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Pheina

At the very least you should ask her if she'd like you to report her story.
Don't just go ahead and do it without her permission. It's her decision to make, not yours.

Sometimes, people think they know what to do when they do not. She might think I shouldn't report what he has done to her I have to though. Sometimes, people think they will be more embarrassed about a situation than they are.

It is amusing that Pheina is attempting to say the same as I am. What's even more amusing, however, is that your arguments for each contradict the other. So I am transferring to which post I quote, and am continuing my own position.

You are a damaging individual. Attempting to record a confession without authorisation then publish it to authorities, and excuse it as morally sound is more ghastly than rape. You are far worse than the male you are attempting to persecute. Your crimes will be far worse than any his have been or will be. And yet you are justifying yourself with casting him down in such a manner?

Is it too much to ask of you to handle the situation delicately, instead of what is more than likely your typical brutal form? If you are unable to, then perhaps you should not be involving yourself at all. There are far more able people in this world, and a plethora at that.

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

Pheina

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Sometimes, people think they know what to do when they do not. She might think I shouldn't report what he has done to her I have to though. Sometimes, people think they will be more embarrassed about a situation than they are.

Things like these take a long time.
You should not report what he has done to her. She should.
Now, if you were a witness, then by all means you're free to report what you saw.
However, video taping her "confession" is different.
If she doesn't want to "confess", then that's her own choice and you just have to respect it. It may not be the best decision, but it's really just not your business to take action for her. :/
Honestly, why make her have to dwell on what happened and relive it again? Once the authorities are brought in, that's what happens. You have to relive it all over again.
I honestly think the best path is to just let her rest and heal and and decide what she wants to do when she's ready, instead of forcing it upon her.

I am not going to tell the authorities that the person on the tape is her.
Sometimes people need to be reminded of something, for improvement of the future to occur.

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

Jeorg

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Pheina

At the very least you should ask her if she'd like you to report her story.
Don't just go ahead and do it without her permission. It's her decision to make, not yours.

Sometimes, people think they know what to do when they do not. She might think I shouldn't report what he has done to her I have to though. Sometimes, people think they will be more embarrassed about a situation than they are.

It is amusing that Pheina is attempting to say the same as I am. What's even more amusing, however, is that your arguments for each contradict the other. So I am transferring to which post I quote, and am continuing my own position.

You are a damaging individual. Attempting to record a confession without authorisation then publish it to authorities, and excuse it as morally sound is more ghastly than rape. You are far worse than the male you are attempting to persecute. Your crimes will be far worse than any his have been or will be. And yet you are justifying yourself with casting him down in such a manner?

Is it too much to ask of you to handle the situation delicately, instead of what is more than likely your typical brutal form? If you are unable to, then perhaps you should not be involving yourself at all. There are far more able people in this world, and a plethora at that.

Oh, the melodrama you provide me with! I am not even goiing to tell the authorities the person on the tape is her. It's not like showing them a tape of her confessing about attempting to be raped by someone is traumatizing. Someone who was almost raped can be traumatized by someone attempting to rape them though. It sounds like you don't know what rape means. Rape means when someone forces someone else to have sex with them, when the person does not want to have sex.

[GreenLys]

One moment I just have to scream, "ARE U NUTS?" you want to force a rape victim to confront her attacker before she is willing because it would make you happy? Read that question over several times, you know what you are considering is wrong. This is an issue she needs to work out with the support of those close to her, family member types not the guy she happens to ride home on the bus with.

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

xXGreenlylXx

One moment I just have to scream, "ARE U NUTS?" you want to force a rape victim to confront her attacker before she is willing because it would make you happy? Read that question over several times, you know what you are considering is wrong. This is an issue she needs to work out with the support of those close to her, family member types not the guy she happens to ride home on the bus with.

I DID not say ANYTHING, about wanting her to have an encounter with her abuser. Please, darling know what it going on, before you post a reply.

[GreenLys]

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

xXGreenlylXx

One moment I just have to scream, "ARE U NUTS?" you want to force a rape victim to confront her attacker before she is willing because it would make you happy? Read that question over several times, you know what you are considering is wrong. This is an issue she needs to work out with the support of those close to her, family member types not the guy she happens to ride home on the bus with.

I DID not say ANYTHING, about wanting her to have an encounter with her abuser. Please, darling know what it going on, before you post a reply.

Love, if she wanted to confront her attacker she would. Before she does she really should get the counseling required to do that don't you agree? Getting video footage of her accusation is forcing a confrontation. If this guy is found to have done this he will be marked as a sexual offender, do you think his family will sit for that?

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

xXGreenlylXx

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

xXGreenlylXx

One moment I just have to scream, "ARE U NUTS?" you want to force a rape victim to confront her attacker before she is willing because it would make you happy? Read that question over several times, you know what you are considering is wrong. This is an issue she needs to work out with the support of those close to her, family member types not the guy she happens to ride home on the bus with.

I DID not say ANYTHING, about wanting her to have an encounter with her abuser. Please, darling know what it going on, before you post a reply.

Love, if she wanted to confront her attacker she would. Before she does she really should get the counseling required to do that don't you agree? Getting video footage of her accusation is forcing a confrontation.

Confrontation means someone meeting face to face. DO NOT use words you DON"T know the meaning to! She won't have to confront her abuser. The cop won't even be able to force her to, because he won't know who I am referring to.

[Jeorg]

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Jeorg

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Pheina

At the very least you should ask her if she'd like you to report her story.
Don't just go ahead and do it without her permission. It's her decision to make, not yours.

Sometimes, people think they know what to do when they do not. She might think I shouldn't report what he has done to her I have to though. Sometimes, people think they will be more embarrassed about a situation than they are.

It is amusing that Pheina is attempting to say the same as I am. What's even more amusing, however, is that your arguments for each contradict the other. So I am transferring to which post I quote, and am continuing my own position.

You are a damaging individual. Attempting to record a confession without authorisation then publish it to authorities, and excuse it as morally sound is more ghastly than rape. You are far worse than the male you are attempting to persecute. Your crimes will be far worse than any his have been or will be. And yet you are justifying yourself with casting him down in such a manner?

Is it too much to ask of you to handle the situation delicately, instead of what is more than likely your typical brutal form? If you are unable to, then perhaps you should not be involving yourself at all. There are far more able people in this world, and a plethora at that.

Oh, the melodrama you provide me with! I am not even goiing to tell the authorities the person on the tape is her. It's not like showing them a tape of her confessing about attempting to be raped by someone is traumatizing. Someone who was almost raped can be traumatized by someone attempting to rape them though. It sounds like you don't know what rape means. Rape means when someone forces someone else to have sex with them, when the person does not want to have sex.

I do apologise for your misunderstanding- I am, in fact, not as dense, uneducated, or blundering as you.

The authorities will be requesting a name for the victim on the tape, else they will excuse the crime as two whimsical girls [and perhaps it is]. If you are to be condemning this male, then it will be required. Also, I would not blindly excuse the possibility of them also wanting to speak with her- perhaps even know if she allowed or knew of the film's existence... You may recieve punishments as well, and I pray that they are harsh. I will grant you that ignorance is bliss, but it is time for you to open wide those eyes of yours. This is reality.

A would-be rape victim is being betrayed by having a 'friend' secretly videotape her confession and release it to adults. All for the mere reason that her friend is selfish and idiotic enough to disregard the girl's traumatisation for her own peace of mind in the field of her well-being.

You are a naive idiot. You deserve to be cast into flames, broiled slowly until your skin blisters and cracks, and you slowly meet your end. Rape is nothing compared to what you are plotting to do.

[Jeorg]

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

xXGreenlylXx

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

xXGreenlylXx

One moment I just have to scream, "ARE U NUTS?" you want to force a rape victim to confront her attacker before she is willing because it would make you happy? Read that question over several times, you know what you are considering is wrong. This is an issue she needs to work out with the support of those close to her, family member types not the guy she happens to ride home on the bus with.

I DID not say ANYTHING, about wanting her to have an encounter with her abuser. Please, darling know what it going on, before you post a reply.

Love, if she wanted to confront her attacker she would. Before she does she really should get the counseling required to do that don't you agree? Getting video footage of her accusation is forcing a confrontation.

Confrontation means someone meeting face to face. DO NOT use words you DON"T know the meaning to! She won't have to confront her abuser. The cop won't even be able to force her to, because he won't know who I am referring to.

Open your eyes, you good-for-nothing fool.

I hope you know the meanings of those words?

[FrancesFiasco]

Sorry to interrupt the argument, but I can't help but agree here.

It's wrong that a person like this should be out on the streets when he's committed such a crime, but do you not think that coming to an authority and telling them what happened to her could be an important part of her recovery?

I know from personal experience that admitting what happened is a big thing and a big step towards recovery. It'd be better knowing that my doing so would result in some sort of punishment for the man, and I personally would not like anyone else taking this from me.

Also, I'm not completely convinced they'll believe a video. Rape is a serious accusation, and one they have to check out thoroughly. They'd want to know who the person was and get statements, explanations, descriptions... You can't get all that from phonecall, and second-hand sources always create doubt.

For this girl's sake, let her do it on her own accord.

Edit: Also, It's not really fair of you to do this if it even has the slightest chance compensating her recovery. Perhaps if the same thing, by the same person, had happened to you, but not so you can feel safer...

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

Jeorg

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Jeorg

Shattered_Blood_Molecules

Pheina

At the very least you should ask her if she'd like you to report her story.
Don't just go ahead and do it without her permission. It's her decision to make, not yours.

Sometimes, people think they know what to do when they do not. She might think I shouldn't report what he has done to her I have to though. Sometimes, people think they will be more embarrassed about a situation than they are.

It is amusing that Pheina is attempting to say the same as I am. What's even more amusing, however, is that your arguments for each contradict the other. So I am transferring to which post I quote, and am continuing my own position.

You are a damaging individual. Attempting to record a confession without authorisation then publish it to authorities, and excuse it as morally sound is more ghastly than rape. You are far worse than the male you are attempting to persecute. Your crimes will be far worse than any his have been or will be. And yet you are justifying yourself with casting him down in such a manner?

Is it too much to ask of you to handle the situation delicately, instead of what is more than likely your typical brutal form? If you are unable to, then perhaps you should not be involving yourself at all. There are far more able people in this world, and a plethora at that.

Oh, the melodrama you provide me with! I am not even goiing to tell the authorities the person on the tape is her. It's not like showing them a tape of her confessing about attempting to be raped by someone is traumatizing. Someone who was almost raped can be traumatized by someone attempting to rape them though. It sounds like you don't know what rape means. Rape means when someone forces someone else to have sex with them, when the person does not want to have sex.

I do apologise for your misunderstanding- I am, in fact, not as dense, uneducated, or blundering as you.

The authorities will be requesting a name for the victim on the tape, else they will excuse the crime as two whimsical girls [and perhaps it is]. If you are to be condemning this male, then it will be required. Also, I would not blindly excuse the possibility of them also wanting to speak with her- perhaps even know if she allowed or knew of the film's existence... You may recieve punishments as well, and I pray that they are harsh. I will grant you that ignorance is bliss, but it is time for you to open wide those eyes of yours. This is reality.

A would-be rape victim is being betrayed by having a 'friend' secretly videotape her confession and release it to adults. All for the mere reason that her friend is selfish and idiotic enough to disregard the girl's traumatisation for her own peace of mind in the field of her well-being.

You are a naive idiot. You deserve to be cast into flames, broiled slowly until your skin blisters and cracks, and you slowly meet your end. Rape is nothing compared to what you are plotting to do.

i think reporting what he did to her though, will prevent her from going through more abuse from him. Sometimes victims want to tell on what has happened to them but do not due to fear, of not being believed, I knew that was my case I even had a witness of the abuse I went through he DID NOTHING about it and didn't report the crime, and I was too scared to tell, and I could of even of died of some of the abuse I also got half-drowned badly by my abuser. I have a point in what I am saying. What I am doing is just trying to help the victim. It is a disgrace there some people who don't believe her

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

FrancesFiasco

Sorry to interrupt the argument, but I can't help but agree here.

It's wrong that a person like this should be out on the streets when he's committed such a crime, but do you not think that coming to an authority and telling them what happened to her could be an important part of her recovery?

I know from personal experience that admitting what happened is a big thing and a big step towards recovery. It'd be better knowing that my doing so would result in some sort of punishment for the man, and I personally would not like anyone else taking this from me.

Also, I'm not completely convinced they'll believe a video. Rape is a serious accusation, and one they have to check out thoroughly. They'd want to know who the person was and get statements, explanations, descriptions... You can't get all that from phonecall, and second-hand sources always create doubt.

For this girl's sake, let her do it on her own accord.

Edit: Also, It's not really fair of you to do this if it even has the slightest chance compensating her recovery. Perhaps if the same thing, by the same person, had happened to you, but not so you can feel safer...

She would be even more upset though, if he did it to her again or to someone else, and if she could have prevented it from occurring by reporting it to an authority what he did.

[FrancesFiasco]

But that's the whole point - if SHE could prevent it.

I know you're thinking of the best for others, but it seriously would be best for her to do it instead. Are you friends with this girl? I'm assuming you are, considering you're planning on calling her and making her talk about something as emotional and personal as attempted rape. Really, the best thing you could for her is just be there for her support.

That's another point. You're going to bring up a traumatic event to this girl, and upset her about it all over again, just to give evidence to the police. Think about it, would you want this in her situation?

And once again, it'd probably be a pointless practice, because I'm almost certain the authorities won't take you seriously enough to convict anyone if you go up to them all like "Hey, [name here] is a rapist. I heard a girl admit it to a bus driver, here's a video of a call where she admits it, but I'm not going to tell you her name." They just can't go off of that. Because there's such sick people in the world who will try to set up anyone they don't like, they can't guarantee that you haven't just made this up and faked the phone call. Because rape is so serious, they'll want a statement from the victim, directly to them. They'll WANT her name, and any evidence and details she can give them. They can't just go with what you've said...

[Shattered_Blood_Molecules]

FrancesFiasco

But that's the whole point - if SHE could prevent it.

I know you're thinking of the best for others, but it seriously would be best for her to do it instead. Are you friends with this girl? I'm assuming you are, considering you're planning on calling her and making her talk about something as emotional and personal as attempted rape. Really, the best thing you could for her is just be there for her support.

That's another point. You're going to bring up a traumatic event to this girl, and upset her about it all over again, just to give evidence to the police. Think about it, would you want this in her situation?

And once again, it'd probably be a pointless practice, because I'm almost certain the authorities won't take you seriously enough to convict anyone if you go up to them all like "Hey, [name here] is a rapist. I heard a girl admit it to a bus driver, here's a video of a call where she admits it, but I'm not going to tell you her name." They just can't go off of that. Because there's such sick people in the world who will try to set up anyone they don't like, they can't guarantee that you haven't just made this up and faked the phone call. Because rape is so serious, they'll want a statement from the victim, directly to them. They'll WANT her name, and any evidence and details she can give them. They can't just go with what you've said...

Well, where not friends yet. I don't think she minds if people are aware of someone attempting to rape her, though.