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OH GOD, THIS POLL IS INFLATING THE MP. 0.28181349819681 28.2% [ 547 ]
THIS IS SURELY AN AFFRONT TO WHATEVER GOD WE WORSHIP. 0.062339000515198 6.2% [ 121 ]
NOT ENOUGH GOLD. 0.064399793920659 6.4% [ 125 ]
No, I bought Silver/Crystal. 0.11952601751674 12.0% [ 232 ]
OH YES, GOLD HEART! 0.06543019062339 6.5% [ 127 ]
"Turning coal into gold is forbidden by the law, brother!" 0.15610510046368 15.6% [ 303 ]
Pure gold. 0.076249356002061 7.6% [ 148 ]
Not a free show, put the gold in my undergarments now. 0.17413704276146 17.4% [ 338 ]
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~+> We've Struck Gold! <+~
And I checked, it's not Fool's Gold either




First and foremost, I shall state that Gaia Online's main selling point is the avatar system; being as pervasive as it is.
To say that it's not would be refuting why most Gaians were possibly interested and attracted to Gaia Online in the first place.


The Gold Shops are a wonderful thing to have: it provides our e-economy with a decent goldsink, useful items to further dress-up our avatars, small time interaction with the NPCs storekeepers, and can be even considered, undeniably, essential.
Also Gaia Gold is a universal currency here, which therefore makes the Gold Shops universal, and thus good Gold Shops makes everybody happy.


They have so much untapped potential to expand, that it's a shame that they aren't being used to the fullest.





~+> Suggestions <+~
And I assure you, they're not demands



These We Don't Have Yet

The Rainbow And Monochrome
While the Gold Shops items do come in an assortment of color, they usually come in a small range -- usually 4-5 -- and leave out a majority of the other "core" colors -- about 7. They may also occasionally come in maybe 6-7 of the core colors, but never all 11.

Now, because there is only a small number of available colors, there is also a severe lack of interest. Many Gaians have often expressed disappointment and dissuasion on buying a item because it did not come in a particular color.

Gold Shop items/updates need to come out in all the core colors per update, even if users must put up with a few extra days wait.

More colors will increase the variety of choices to buy from, the users' interest and desire to spend, and create satisfaction.

For Gaians concerned with a single item being recolored too many times and therefore filling up many slots on a page, should see this thread; Which I personally think is a nice idea.

The "core colors" being Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, Pink, Brown, Black, White, and Gray. This is excluding the immensely different amount of shades, tones, and hues which creates even more variety.

Several colors are also even more incredibly lacking in items; such as Orange, Pink, Purple, and Green.

I myself have tried unprofessionally recoloring on MsPaint, and noted that recoloring does not take that much effort that it cannot be done with a few extra days. Especially since Gaia's artists should have techniques or programs that could easily assist far better than MSPaint.




The Diversity
Dressing up the avatar as what we want is how everybody likes it. However, the Gold Shop, cannot fulfill those desires when it does not stock itself with greater diversity. While they're supposed to contain "essential" items that help us attain our dream avatar in, somewhat, more affordable prices, they're unfortunately too lacking to do so.
We can classify most Gold Shops items easily under things like: shirt, coat, vest, hat, dresses, shoes, belt, etc.

However, that is not to say that they aren't missing/not updating other types of items, such as mantles, capes/cloaks, wings, tails, robes, armor, weapons, etc; Which have existed in the Gold Shops before.

Expanding/updating the diversity of items will allow Gaians to let their imagination run more wild, more ways to dress-up, and give them more things to buy.

Further division would go into subgroups like "wizard's hat, wedding dress, army boots, etc."

There's a severe lack of shoes and pants in the updates as of late. Even more so, wigs. And on a minor note: contacts.

I would also personally like to suggest that Salon Durem be retooled to sell wigs (not costumes wigs for sake of consistency) and contacts.




The Gold Shop Chance Items
It's been proven that Chance Items are extremely successful, so why not share that success with the Gold Shops too?

Even though I say a Chance Item, it's going to be a very simplified version.
Hypothetically, price it at 3k and only have 7 items for it (4 commons, 2 uncommons, and 1 rare), and switch the inventory every month or two (or every two to three).

And from what I can hear and see, it's not like you haven't done a successful Gaia-Gold CI before.



The Complementary/Spin-Off Items
As Mellow Mush suggested, creating simple items that goes with (other) Cash Shop related items would be very nice.
"This way, for the people that really just can't save up 10 million gold, they can still get an item with the same feel as that one little thing off their wishlist. This would also be a plus for those people that don't want to risk money on Chance Items - they can still safely buy a few things in the Cash Shop and feel like they're in on the RIG action. I've seen alot of people wishing they could just buy the RIG items in the Cash Shop, and this would probably make them happy, and (not to mention) would be an extra source of revenue."

Noting that she does mean complimentary items for the Cash Shop, but that doesn't mean you can't make it for the Gold Shops either. Also should be heeded that you could just make one similar item and that would be fine.



The Shopping Cart
As Miss-dark8607 suggested, a shopping cart would be a particularly helpful feature.
"I like the suggestion about having a "cart" in the gold shop. You know kind of like every other store on the internet. Where you can fill up your cart with hmm for Gaia I'll say 10 items and then just buy in bulk. That would be so cool since a lot times we are trying to buy outfits."





These Happen Randomly

The Style
Bringing back the aforementioned classifications of items (and subgroups), because we have so many when choosing items, the desired effects we're going for can radically differ in practice.

For example, a wizard's hat.
[User Image], [User Image], [User Image]

You can easily see that the Blue Magic Hat is simplistic and childish, the Royal Wizard (Sorceror's Hat) is much more magical and mature, and the Merlin's Hat is abit more muskteer-ish.

There isn't much to say here, except that going back to older ideas and redesigning them to achieve different effects is a very good idea.



The Price
The Gold Shop items are factually permanent, barring some peculiar exceptions, notably with Dernier*Cri, that the idea of saving up gold for them is really not an impossible feat.
So, don't be afraid to vary the range in the Gold Shops from the easily obtained 1,000g to the high-class 60,000g -- or even higher or lower.

However, don't forget that Gaia is full of casual players, so having items at 100,000g+ is absurd any where other than Dernier*Cri.
Rather, if you're going to start making those kind of quality items, creating a new Middle-Class Gold Shop would be highly desired.



The Neglected Shops And Features
Just bringing up that you, Gaia Online, do have more than 6 shops, and cycling through them wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
Not to mention that their exchange features do need a major overhaul.



The Knock-Offs
Full suggestion by marshmallowcreampie.

Knock-offs (in the Gold Shop) are effective for several reasons:
[1] They are a cheaper alternative. Questers can buy their wanted item at a very reasonable price. Which leaves them more gold to spend on other items (probably other knock-offs) or start/continue a new quest instead of having a very stagnant one.
[2] Standalone. Questers are getting specifically the item they want without the unnecessary hassle of everything else.
[3] Color diversity. Oh, do we all love our color diversity.




These Were Fulfilled

The Dressing Room Uncertainty
The Dressing Room in the Shops and Marketplace should be updated for various reasons.
Remember, Gaia, there are Gaians who do face their avatar backwards, kneel, or both; Also visit FLASH areas like Towns or Rally.
And would very much appreciate being able to preview items/poses at multiple positions.


Updated with a better preview feature.
Noticeably lacking kneeling as an option, but oh well.
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I agree.

oh, and total win for the FMA reference.

(edit : first, for the first time in my life. so firstx2)
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I think Gaia's items are pretty diverse as it is. And, after all, that takes time to achieve through the various updates they've made and will continue to make. And they have done recolors of some very basic items. At this point I'd bet that it would be a problem to update some items with recolors because they would look so different from the original thing due to the changes in skill and style. Even the wool tops recolors look a lot different from the original white wool top. Different shading, different intensity of color, and the color doesn't look slightly off when compared to other items the same color. So while I would like recolors of very basic items, like the wool tops and the simple skirts, I don't think they should make recolors of every set. At that rate we'd never see any new gold shop items.

I would like to see something expensive like a cross between the Milady and Victorianna set, though. Or maybe a pricey 'sorceress' set.
Poll=Love

I agree fully wit everything in here.
Riko>>:

    Agreed. If Gaia allowed a "catalog" feature which let you look at all the items spanning every shop, I'd be really happy. Being able to browse by hat, feet, legs, etc across all the shops at once would help me immensely when trying to find that one little item I was after, especially if I don't have the name off the top of my head. (that rules out the MP)
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I think Gaia's items are pretty diverse as it is. And, after all, that takes time to achieve through the various updates they've made and will continue to make. And they have done recolors of some very basic items. At this point I'd bet that it would be a problem to update some items with recolors because they would look so different from the original thing due to the changes in skill and style. Even the wool tops recolors look a lot different from the original white wool top. Different shading, different intensity of color, and the color doesn't look slightly off when compared to other items the same color. So while I would like recolors of very basic items, like the wool tops and the simple skirts, I don't think they should make recolors of every set. At that rate we'd never see any new gold shop items.

I would like to see something expensive like a cross between the Milady and Victorianna set, though. Or maybe a pricey 'sorceress' set.


Actually recolors shouldn't be that hard at all.

Just put it on 50% gray and then change the hues as much as you want.

Though I could see a problem with the items that have more than one color on them. D8

Then again, it's nothing layers can't fix, right?
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I think Gaia's items are pretty diverse as it is. And, after all, that takes time to achieve through the various updates they've made and will continue to make. And they have done recolors of some very basic items. At this point I'd bet that it would be a problem to update some items with recolors because they would look so different from the original thing due to the changes in skill and style. Even the wool tops recolors look a lot different from the original white wool top. Different shading, different intensity of color, and the color doesn't look slightly off when compared to other items the same color. So while I would like recolors of very basic items, like the wool tops and the simple skirts, I don't think they should make recolors of every set. At that rate we'd never see any new gold shop items.

I would like to see something expensive like a cross between the Milady and Victorianna set, though. Or maybe a pricey 'sorceress' set.

Gold Shop diversity is the only problem with diversity. Otherwise, Gold Shop and Cash Shop is perfectly fine too.

Actually, I've done minor work with Photoshop (unsure which, as it's on a school computer) and found that recoloring is effectively simple and easy (5 seconds for the simplest of items, such as hair).
And I don't have the quote at hand either, I believe a Artist mentioned that complicated recolors may taken around 45mins to an hour -- which is not so long when spread throughout several days.

I'm not asking them to go back and recolor (even though that would be nice), as much as I am asking Gaia to up their "standards" for future Gold Shop updates.
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I think Gaia's items are pretty diverse as it is. And, after all, that takes time to achieve through the various updates they've made and will continue to make. And they have done recolors of some very basic items. At this point I'd bet that it would be a problem to update some items with recolors because they would look so different from the original thing due to the changes in skill and style. Even the wool tops recolors look a lot different from the original white wool top. Different shading, different intensity of color, and the color doesn't look slightly off when compared to other items the same color. So while I would like recolors of very basic items, like the wool tops and the simple skirts, I don't think they should make recolors of every set. At that rate we'd never see any new gold shop items.

I would like to see something expensive like a cross between the Milady and Victorianna set, though. Or maybe a pricey 'sorceress' set.

Gold Shop diversity is the only problem with diversity. Otherwise, Gold Shop and Cash Shop is perfectly fine too.

Actually, I've done minor work with Photoshop (unsure which, as it's on a school computer) and found that recoloring is effectively simple and easy (5 seconds for the simplest of items, such as hair).
And I don't have the quote at hand either, I believe a Artist mentioned that complicated recolors may taken around 45mins to an hour -- which is not so long when spread throughout several days.

I'm not asking them to go back and recolor (even though that would be nice), as much as I am asking Gaia to up their "standards" for future Gold Shop updates.


Well, yeah, it's simple to do in photoshop. But is it professional? At least, professional by Gaia's standards, does the new color cause any glitches, is it actually profitable to recolor this instead of making a whole new thing? That it takes forty five minutes to an hour does make sense, but that's probably one recolor at a time and is not something you would want to spread out over several days. You would probably lose consistency doing that.

But, far as I can tell, the gold shop items already are pretty diverse. They're granting more and more user petitions. It's just that it's probably a tad easier to create variety with the other options the artists have available to them. We've got a crapload of tails in the shops, they've been doing 'cultural' items. And items within sets are less and less just palette swaps of each other. (Look at the Victoribelle dresses and pick out the differences on each one.)

Note: Edited to make a correction about the dress set.
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I think Gaia's items are pretty diverse as it is. And, after all, that takes time to achieve through the various updates they've made and will continue to make. And they have done recolors of some very basic items. At this point I'd bet that it would be a problem to update some items with recolors because they would look so different from the original thing due to the changes in skill and style. Even the wool tops recolors look a lot different from the original white wool top. Different shading, different intensity of color, and the color doesn't look slightly off when compared to other items the same color. So while I would like recolors of very basic items, like the wool tops and the simple skirts, I don't think they should make recolors of every set. At that rate we'd never see any new gold shop items.

I would like to see something expensive like a cross between the Milady and Victorianna set, though. Or maybe a pricey 'sorceress' set.

Gold Shop diversity is the only problem with diversity. Otherwise, Gold Shop and Cash Shop is perfectly fine too.

Actually, I've done minor work with Photoshop (unsure which, as it's on a school computer) and found that recoloring is effectively simple and easy (5 seconds for the simplest of items, such as hair).
And I don't have the quote at hand either, I believe a Artist mentioned that complicated recolors may taken around 45mins to an hour -- which is not so long when spread throughout several days.

I'm not asking them to go back and recolor (even though that would be nice), as much as I am asking Gaia to up their "standards" for future Gold Shop updates.


Well, yeah, it's simple to do in photoshop. But is it professional? At least, professional by Gaia's standards, does the new color cause any glitches, is it actually profitable to recolor this instead of making a whole new thing? That it takes forty five minutes to an hour does make sense, but that's probably one recolor at a time and is not something you would want to spread out over several days. You would probably lose consistency doing that.

But, far as I can tell, the gold shop items already are pretty diverse. They're granting more and more user petitions. It's just that it's probably a tad easier to create variety with the other options the artists have available to them. We've got a crapload of tails in the shops, they've been doing 'cultural' items. And items within sets are less and less just palette swaps of each other. (Look at the Victorianna dresses and pick out the differences on each one.)


It's professional as long as you can't tell what they did aside from recolors. No need to go over complicated and use up more time if it's very simple to do. If you want to turn a car pink from blue, switch it to 50% gray and start messing with the hues and values until you get the shade you want.

As for shop items, I think it's more of color range than anything. I can tell you I was bummed out when they didn't have more color variety in the Victorian skirts.
I agree, and I especially agree about the colors. Not only do we not have enough colors, the colors that we do have are often dull. We really need some brighter colors.

e: holy crap I said "colors" 4 times. Time to go to bed! sweatdrop
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Having more color options in new items released into the gold shops would be nice.
And I definitely signed up for Gaia so I could play dress up!
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Truth Stains Your Words. We Need Bettter Items And Shops. Not Everyone Can Afford Gaia Cash. ♥ This Poll. And I Agree, They Should Let Us Change The Colors Of The Items To Buy To Slim The Marketplace Listings Of One Thing. I'm Tired Of Chasing One Color For My Avatars.
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I wholeheartedly support this well spoken and detailed idea.

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