Mar not the beauty of the Alruna with your immature whining!

[ShadowToxic]

KawaiiKittenCalico

ShadowToxic

KawaiiKittenCalico

InigmaMystery

What? They're being asked to cover up a work of art? >.<

No, we're asking Gaia not to be hypocrites. We're not allowed to have or post naked avatar bases. If you take one of the nude bases from Tektek and post it on Gaia, you can get in trouble because they're naked and it's not allowed. But now, we have Alruna who is very much topless despite the fact it's supposed to be against the rules.

What is being asked is equality and no more hypocracy. Either allow female avvies to be topless as well, or don't allow companion characters to be naked. One or the other, they can't have both. Unlike the museum statue/nude human comparison, Alruna and our avvies are both nothing but pixels. Neither of us is "real". Neither of us is flesh and blood. We're all just colored dots on a website, so the museum/museum patron comparison is completely pointless.

NUDE is the key word. Does she show nipples? No - Bodysuit, then.
She could be wearing a bodysuit, and still appear as that.

I've had my share of times when I mistook a girl for being nude while she was wearing a leotard.

Just because Alruna APPEARS to be nude doesn't mean you all have to demand nude avatars.

If I were to be without a bra, would I be showing nipples? No. So your argument is crap. I could be wearing a bodysuit, too, going by your very flawed logic. Just because Gaia didn't give her nipples doesn't mean she isn't naked.

Ever see the final episode of Sailor Moon, or even hear about it? Usagi spends most of the episode completely naked. She doesn't have nipples. Does that mean she's not really meant to be naked? Hell no. She's naked, she's just not anatomically correct. Neither are our avatar bases.

I don't get what you mean by going braless and still hiding your nipples. But I'll say this again - she is quite clearly wearing a full body covering - due to lack of n****e bumps.

But about your Sailor Moon line - you're wrong. She was nude, yes. Nipples and all.
Did you watch a cutup version?.

Now, back to my original argument;
Nonsexual, artistic nudity is allowed here. I've done a few avatar arts for friends of that caliber. Unfortunately, allowing nude avatars will definitely bring forth the surge of n00bs who cyber. THATS why nude avatars are banned.
.....

[hana_thorns]

Felix Virgo

ew ew ew ew ew no. i remember when Gaia's linklist had HENTAI on it.

Thankfully i never saw it

But really all i see here are

"Gaia i want to be nekkid. NOW!!!!!"

Why do you want to be naked? For everyone's sakes you can go running aoround in your undies.

[Catz95]

I find it funny I havn't seen anyone yelling about the fact that if you turn the avatar around while wearing the rose, your booty hangs out. rofl I love this item so much *starts saving up to buy more*

[KawaiiKittenCalico]

Lolli Of The Army

KawaiiKittenCalico

Deciare

_Shouko_

>>; None of the people in my thread were closed minded about anything. what we don't understand is why Gaia is playing double standards. How poses from the superior form can go without shirts and still be ok while they too have breasts, and why Alruna can be ok and show her breasts (if that is what she is indeed doing), but we cannot?

Alruna's Rose is an item. It is a separate entity from your avatar and is not representative of you or the way you present yourself. It is not implying that you are nude, nor is it implying that your avatar is interested in such nudity.

If your avatar is nude, however, then it does suggest something about the intent of the person behind the avatar. Intents that certain audiences may find distasteful irrespective of what you think about them.

There is no relation between Alruna and your avatar other than mild visual similarity. We don't have any of the poses, hairstyles, clothing, facial expressions, or many other aspects of wearable items who happen to look like people. Why should Alruna be any different? Her questionably expose chest is something belong to an item that we can't have. We're already familiar with this situation.

I think the message is quite clear. Alruna's Rose does not represent you, but your avatar does.

So having a naked woman next to me doesn't mean I have any interest in nudity? I don't get it. She's naked and I look like I'm trying to grab her boobs.

And your the one that chooses to see it that way. Not every one on the site has a dirty mind. Most should be able to see the difference between unacceptable and pixalated art. Clearly you cannot.

I'm just doing it all for the sake of argument. I didn't come up with this idea. xd Besides, wouldn't be the first time someone made a "naughty" avvie. I have one image saved to my comp because it cracked me the hell up.

I just don't like Gaia being hypocrites. Even posting the nude avvie bases from Tektek can get you in trouble, yet now we have a companion who has very large bresticles very close to our faces. If our avvies could turn their heads we could, as someone else said, "motorboard" her boobs.

Why is that acceptable but a nude avvie base is not? And come up with a better reason than "She's a spirit" because she's pixels just like our avvie bases, and when she's being used on an avatar she represents the person just as much as the person's avvie without her would.

[Felix Virgo]

Lolli Of The Army

Dynamo Kiev

The funniest part about the two "change Alruna" threads is that they use the word tits, which is one of the more vulgar words for breasts.

You guise that is indecent.

They are using words like that because they want to sway people in to thinking pixel nudity is vulgar, gross, and inappropriate... or they just don't understand how demeaning those words are or how it makes people feel that body parts are gross.

They shame Ol' Carlin (may he be screaming in hell at us for being idiots).

QUIT BRINGING IN THE HYPOTHETICALS THAT CAN'T HAPPEN. We can't "motorboard" because we can't turn our avatar heads so far a direction ... EVER. That'd practically require avatars to be fully 3D.

[ShadowToxic]

KawaiiKittenCalico

Lolli Of The Army

KawaiiKittenCalico

Deciare

_Shouko_

>>; None of the people in my thread were closed minded about anything. what we don't understand is why Gaia is playing double standards. How poses from the superior form can go without shirts and still be ok while they too have breasts, and why Alruna can be ok and show her breasts (if that is what she is indeed doing), but we cannot?

Alruna's Rose is an item. It is a separate entity from your avatar and is not representative of you or the way you present yourself. It is not implying that you are nude, nor is it implying that your avatar is interested in such nudity.

If your avatar is nude, however, then it does suggest something about the intent of the person behind the avatar. Intents that certain audiences may find distasteful irrespective of what you think about them.

There is no relation between Alruna and your avatar other than mild visual similarity. We don't have any of the poses, hairstyles, clothing, facial expressions, or many other aspects of wearable items who happen to look like people. Why should Alruna be any different? Her questionably expose chest is something belong to an item that we can't have. We're already familiar with this situation.

I think the message is quite clear. Alruna's Rose does not represent you, but your avatar does.

So having a naked woman next to me doesn't mean I have any interest in nudity? I don't get it. She's naked and I look like I'm trying to grab her boobs.

And your the one that chooses to see it that way. Not every one on the site has a dirty mind. Most should be able to see the difference between unacceptable and pixalated art. Clearly you cannot.

I'm just doing it all for the sake of argument. I didn't come up with this idea. xd Besides, wouldn't be the first time someone made a "naughty" avvie. I have one image saved to my comp because it cracked me the hell up.

I just don't like Gaia being hypocrites. Even posting the nude avvie bases from Tektek can get you in trouble, yet now we have a companion who has very large bresticles very close to our faces. If our avvies could turn their heads we could, as someone else said, "motorboard" her boobs.

Why is that acceptable but a nude avvie base is not? And come up with a better reason than "She's a spirit" because she's pixels just like our avvie bases, and when she's being used on an avatar she represents the person just as much as the person's avvie without her would.

Nice to see you avoiding my post.

I don't get what you mean by going braless and still hiding your nipples. But I'll say this again - she is quite clearly wearing a full body covering - due to lack of n****e bumps.

But about your Sailor Moon line - you're wrong. She was nude, yes. Nipples and all.
Did you watch a cutup version?.

Now, back to my original argument;
Nonsexual, artistic nudity is allowed here. I've done a few avatar arts for friends of that caliber. Unfortunately, allowing nude avatars will definitely bring forth the surge of n00bs who cyber. THATS why nude avatars are banned.
.....

[Felix Virgo]

Once more:

The Alruna is trying to seduce you by any means other than genital manipulation of any sorts. She's a succubus - a "female" demon trying to drag you to hell in a handbasket made of hedonistic pleasures that'd make the stereotypical fat Caesar blush. If that means showing her ample bosom, so be it.

HOWEVER, it is an artistic representation of her attempts, not going anywhere NEAR graphic. So it's a safe item. She's not actually cybering with you; she's trying to make YOU ******** her.

[hibi-tea]

Deciare

_Shouko_

My other point is Gaia claims we can't be nude because of bad PR and the people who would be offended. Wouldn't they just as easily be offended by Alruna's breast? And wouldn't it also be bad PR?

Breasts do not offend people. The intent and act of being nude in public offends people. Alruna is an item, and has no intent.

_Shouko_

And to go on further the skins. they may be different races, species and the like but they still have breasts. Exposed breasts. Regardless if they're furry or metal they're still breasts.

Breasts are not exposed when they are covered by fur. Let me know when Gaia introduces a shaven feline skin that is not subject to default underwear.

1. No it doesn't but it still offends people, just like the topless avi's do. Why? Because they're naked. Making neither item alright.

And would you please stop comparing this to real life? It has no bearing on real life. The comparisons to real life are outlandish and have nothing to do with pixels. Because if you want to go with it than I'm going to say "Gaia is not RL and is not in public, therefore your point is moot, and letting me have my naked breasts is allowable."

2. The breasts are still there for all to see. Essentuated and there. They are two round mounds, just like on our avi's, just like on Alruna's chest. There are no nipples to see, there is not real definition outside the impression of the fact they're breasts. So again, why is it bad for us to have exposed breasts but not for them?

[KawaiiKittenCalico]

ShadowToxic

KawaiiKittenCalico

ShadowToxic

KawaiiKittenCalico

InigmaMystery

What? They're being asked to cover up a work of art? >.<

No, we're asking Gaia not to be hypocrites. We're not allowed to have or post naked avatar bases. If you take one of the nude bases from Tektek and post it on Gaia, you can get in trouble because they're naked and it's not allowed. But now, we have Alruna who is very much topless despite the fact it's supposed to be against the rules.

What is being asked is equality and no more hypocracy. Either allow female avvies to be topless as well, or don't allow companion characters to be naked. One or the other, they can't have both. Unlike the museum statue/nude human comparison, Alruna and our avvies are both nothing but pixels. Neither of us is "real". Neither of us is flesh and blood. We're all just colored dots on a website, so the museum/museum patron comparison is completely pointless.

NUDE is the key word. Does she show nipples? No - Bodysuit, then.
She could be wearing a bodysuit, and still appear as that.

I've had my share of times when I mistook a girl for being nude while she was wearing a leotard.

Just because Alruna APPEARS to be nude doesn't mean you all have to demand nude avatars.

If I were to be without a bra, would I be showing nipples? No. So your argument is crap. I could be wearing a bodysuit, too, going by your very flawed logic. Just because Gaia didn't give her nipples doesn't mean she isn't naked.

Ever see the final episode of Sailor Moon, or even hear about it? Usagi spends most of the episode completely naked. She doesn't have nipples. Does that mean she's not really meant to be naked? Hell no. She's naked, she's just not anatomically correct. Neither are our avatar bases.

I don't get what you mean by going braless and still hiding your nipples. But I'll say this again - she is quite clearly wearing a full body covering - due to lack of n****e bumps.

But about your Sailor Moon line - you're wrong. She was nude, yes. Nipples and all.
Did you watch a cutup version?.

Now, back to my original argument;
Nonsexual, artistic nudity is allowed here. I've done a few avatar arts for friends of that caliber. Unfortunately, allowing nude avatars will definitely bring forth the surge of n00bs who cyber. THATS why nude avatars are banned.
.....

There is no cut up version. Usagi does not have nipples, just like she doesn't have pubic hair or a clitoris drawn onto her pelvic region. Alruna is not wearing a full body suit just because she lacks nipples, she was simply drawn without nipples, just like our avatar bases. If my avvie were to remove it's bra, there would not be nipples on my Zurg form. It wouldn't mean I was wearing a "full body suit", it would mean I was topless.

I find it completely rediculous that you can't understand the concept of anatomically incorrect nudity. Just because it is not given nipples does not mean it's not indended to be nude.

[Aevum Noir]

Idk if this is off topic or not but the ESRB doesn't have a problem with ectoplasmic cleavage.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/920182_20041011_screen001.jpg
The game is rated "E" for everyone btw xP

[Felix Virgo]

Aevum Noir

Idk if this is off topic or not but the ESRB doesn't have a problem with ectoplasmic cleavage.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/920182_20041011_screen001.jpg
The game is rated "E" for everyone btw xP

Actually, that's another GOOD example.

[Jaq]

Pretty sad that something we were given is so beautiful and people are already toting their cans of paint to cover it up. Get the Hell over it and move on. The true die-hard Alruna fans are ecstatic and not just due to some perverse "ZOMG B00Bz!", but because it was tactfully done and also caters to the infamous fanservice so many of us have been craving.

If you don't like the naked breasts (no nipples people - perfectly acceptable ANIME/Manga usage here - think Sailor Moon if you must), then don't use her and just scroll along when you come across someone's avi. stressed

[Walter C Britannia]

Here's another bit of hypocrisy that is bound to follow this event, the incubus that was made to please the masses, 'Alnura'. I've seen people complain about the Alruna, but want more 'skin' of Alnura.

[Toxicnessx]

Catz95

I find it funny I havn't seen anyone yelling about the fact that if you turn the avatar around while wearing the rose, your booty hangs out. rofl I love this item so much *starts saving up to buy more*

Like this lmao but you gotta admit my butt is pretty cute (the avis butt actually)

[Felix Virgo]

Vampire Butler Walter

Here's another bit of hypocrisy that is bound to follow this event, the incubus that was made to please the masses, 'Alnura'. I've seen people complain about the Alruna, but want more 'skin' of Alnura.

And as i have said before, the Alruna's intent is for you to have sex with HER (not some other whore you met on Gaia) so she can sap you of your soul.

i'd complain if she put a hand near my junk.