hiding equipped items = frustrating, and less money for you.

[Damien_The_Omen]

AloysiusWeasley

No, it just makes you look like even more of a wannabe special snowflake. I'm not going to stretch the page with a big-a** quote tree because you can't reply properly.

I am replying properly. I don't see anything about "post etiquette" on the site that says we're not supposed to/allowed to respond to each point of a user's post in turn.

Again, I ask - why is it that those of us who are perfectly fine with the feature should be punished just because a bunch of other people don't like it? Right, so.......because I (and others like me) have respect for the privacy of other people, and you (and others like you) don't, that makes us fussy. Thank you EVER so much for clarifying that.[/sarcasm]

From the way you & that other person chose to cheer & squee about my outfit (which wasn't even the complete list, btw - and thank you, Flying Dicks, for pointing out that Tektek can't just magically generate a list of items from a blocked avatar), that kind of contradicts your "we don't care" statement. No, I wouldn't "spit on" a person who asked me what I had equipped. I usually don't answer at all, because these days, it's difficult to discern "new users" from "hackers & scammers". What "harms me" is having to block all PMs from people who might have a legitimate reason to want to talk to me, because a few beggars/scammers/hackers are suddenly interested in being my friend just because of one little expensive item I'm wearing, or because I'm selling something expensive in the Marketplace, and they're too lazy or too cheap to earn the gold required to buy it (without cheating, of course) & fork it over.
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@Mindset/Aloysius: Congratulations to you both for proving to me that you & all those who think like you are nothing more than ignorant, whiny, t1t-b1tchy c0ck-choking fcuknuts. Great job. (b'')b
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How the hell is this hindering your usage of the site? Nowhere around here does it say that one person blocking you from viewing their equipped items prevents you from EVER seeing those same items anywhere else. If something as insignificant as having equipped lists disabled makes your life that much difficult, then I would strongly suggest you get out more, and not spend so much time on the computer. This is me being completely serious, btw, because you being up in arms about one little feature is clearly indicative of something that I don't want to know about. Kaiba did have a good point, and on that note, I stress again that the option of answering PMs asking what a user is wearing is entirely up to that user. If they choose not to talk to you, it's nothing to make a big deal over. On the other hand, if they choose to be abusive and harass you about it at the same time as when they refuse to answer your questions, then it certainly is.

Itami Of Kasai

Don't get me wrong, normally I would totally support a users choice to privacy (such as a friends only profile, journal etc.) but in this situation when you are trying to keep an item which you are wearing on your avi...in plain sight...hidden...it's complete logic fail.

Look at it this way - people with full outfits are more than likely hiding additional items beneath the clothes. Could be tattoos, could be MC/EI skins/items, etc. They don't want people to know, and I can see why they would want to prevent others from knowing.

ChrisJS

Quite ironic, really. I found this to be true of the majority of the people for this request here, not against it. Most of the mudslinging is coming from the pro-list-vieweres, not the non. confused

This. The fact that the OP had the gall to say that hiding your equipped list would harm the site's income is infinitely more insulting than anything I might have said.

@ Flying Dicks: This happens to be the first time I've ever come across a topic like this, and I found it to be unwarranted ridiculousness right from the start. As for your examples.......If a person is going to act like a *****, then they really shouldn't pretend that they have a right to be surprised when another person responds in kind. I find it eye-rolling laughable how it's perfectly okay for the absolute jerks (i.e., people who reply with far worse than anything you've seen from me) who frequent this particular board to reply with things like "baaawwww" and claim that anyone who disagrees with them is (insert offensive comment here), but when someone with common sense does so without tossing around F-bombs/slurs/etc., everyone wants to be first in chopping that person's head off.

This whole topic was blown way out of proportion from the outset before I even began posting here, because of certain users acting as if one little feature severely detracts from their experience with using the site, and treating those who choose to utilize it as if they're invoking some sort of apocalyptic ritual, or they're just simply the cruelest bastards on the face of the planet. I'm not stubborn or selfish by not wanting other people to see what my avatar wears. There's nothing in the rules of this "community" that says I HAVE to let other people know exactly what I have equipped. I just simply prefer to be left alone, and people making asinine requests such as what was in the originating post only make that more difficult.

[DJ Pandurz]

`deja vu

[♥♥♥] Steps to seeing hidden items.

1) Got to tektek's Dream Creator
2) Go to user's profile
3) Copy the part bolded in the profile url. www.gaiaonline.com/profiles/?u=######
4) Go back to tektek's Dream Creator
5) Go to Search Items
6) Paste what you copied. u=######
7) the ##### = numbers copied from the profile url.
8 ) Click search
9) Dream creator shows you whats on that ava.

Got the word i was looking for, then I LOL'd at the pic.

[Andromeda Phoenix]

@AloysiusWeasley: I'll be the first to say that most of the reasoning for the disabling suck. There's only two that make remote sense imo. "Doing it to start conversation/make friends", nevermind the fact that that's what the forums are for, and the "I don't want people copying my avatars", but only because the work around requires users switching to another avi, which could be viewed as inconvenient. But then again, it's also inconvenient to go through the equipped lists of five different avis wearing the same damn item pose 'cause they have viewing their equipped item lists disabled. *rages*

I'm really not sure tho. 'Cause occasionally you'll see people throwing their hands up in frustration at the disabling of the feature, but the same goes for people saying that's how the feature should be. It doesn't seem like a crazy big deal. It doesn't effect your experience to the point where it makes you sign off or something, And do we really need those in favor of the ability to disable it. To me, it feels like one of those "keep the peace" things. sweatdrop

[AloysiusWeasley]

ChrisJS

AloysiusWeasley

@ChrisJS: I thought the comparison was a good one.
Anyway, I don't have a problem with me generalizing in this situation. As I've been saying all along in this thread, there isn't a good excuse to disable it, and I've been in a zillion threads on this since the day it came out, and no one can tell me why. Since the grand, vast majority of people seem to do it just to be dicks to other users and make it abundantly clear that such is their reasoning, I don't feel sorry for thinking the way that I do about them. I really don't think it has a thing at all to do about their 'richness', it's simple control over others - the people who disable it then claim they don't care if people PM or comment them asking are trying to force people to ask them so they can feel superior/special/whatever.

Noted. While I understand your point, especially if you've battled this many times before, I don't condone such harsh over-generalizing. It's not going to make people like me (speaking for myself) want to bend to your wishes any more so when I read your posts and feel insulted (which I did..and my list isn't even disabled).

And about the control? I can sort of understand this. Why hide something that you may well tell to someone yourself anyways? And I have done this. I once had some one ask me about every item I was wearing. And I took the time to list for them every single one. In truth, I was flattered someone even payed attention to my avatar. (Looking back I don't remember whether I had my list visible or not. If I didn't, it wasn't on purpose). Then again, some people may not tell others their items personally for the same reasons they don't have their list visible. Do I agree with them? Mayhap, mayhap not. But does that mean I should ask for their choice to be taken away? I don't think I can say yes comfortably.

But I respect that you may disagree with me on some points here.

Heh - I long since gave up on trying to convince any of them. Most of the ones who had it disabled in other threads before this one (about this topic) could be summed up with "LOLOLOL, sux 2 be u, I'm not tellin'!!11", that's why I just aim for the root of the problem in trying to get Gaia to take it away. 3nodding

I can somewhat understand that, too. It's always a nice shiny feeling when someone complements one of my avvies, and I'm always happy to fill them in on what item(s) they're after, whether they just wanted to talk at me, or whether the equipped list wasn't much help probably because I always have a ton of crap on. The mermaid one I had right after the Pearl finished was a great example - I fielded a ton of questions on it, because the equipped list only shows one EI unless you have multiple gens on, and I had a ton of one gen on, and it was rather confusing. XD

The reason I can say 'no' to that question comfortably is because doing it my way, people have two options if they want to know what's on my avvie - they can ask, or they can look at my list, and the latter is awesome because then they can just know and be on their way, they aren't forced to be social with me to find out, and then I'm not obligated to be social back to tell them. To the feature as a whole, I just look at it with one of my personal philosophies - I don't tend to inconvenience or be mean to people unless they started it. While disabling an equipped list definitely fits under 'inconvenience' rather than 'mean', it still makes me go out of my way, and I really hate that. I didn't do anything to them, so why be rude to me in such a way? Granted, it isn't usually to me precisely, but I'm sure you understood. xp

Lastly, I usually try not to generalize, but with this particular issue..well, it's one part me not understanding why someone would do such a thing to others, and one part people certainly not explaining any reasonable argument to sway me otherwise.

@Flying Dicks: Lulz, nice illustration! *bemused* I may be mean sometimes, but at least I come by it honestly. xD

You're so right about previous threads. If I have to hear we're lazy one...more...time... mad

[Pallas Athea]

While I've felt the annoyance of seeing a blocked list, I think it's a good feature to have. I don't think my list is blocked (I've never bothered to check), but I can see why some people would want to block it. Honestly, if you have to know what an item is, it's not that hard. Try PMing the user, searching tektek or the MP with relevant keywords, or screenshot it and ask. And now there's that way of using the dream avatar creator, although I've never tried. Just my opinion, but I doubt Gaia will remove the feature.

[Hazelaar]

I'm fine with some users choosing to hide their item lists.

Yeah, sometimes it's a little disappointing when I see an avi I like but can't identify all the items for, but it's never that big of a problem for me.
Some, so I've heard, do it because they want to keep their possibly fancy/trickily designed avi to themselves. Which is fine, they spent the time trying to assemble a neat avi they really like, they can keep it to themselves if they so choose.
Some seem to just do it because. I don't quite understand this point of view, since if you don't really care I think it'd be easier to let people see than having to bother fronting emails with inquiries, but that may just be me.
Of course there are other reasons, but trying to identify them doesn't seem that important right now since they all kinda have the same effect on me (very little).

Anyways. I've no problem with the site keeping this as an option. Usually if it's a particular item I'm curious about I know I'll run across it again eventually. And it's a definite improvement over the old system where you had to go on peoples' profiles and hope they had their equipped list displayed.

(Also still does not quite understand why it would cost the site money, as this feature (or feature limitation) has certainly never stopped me from purchasing anything. And if it's about users not being about to recognize, and then purchase, cash shop items, seeing as how cash items are often fairly popular I doubt they'd have to hang around the site for very long before being able to identify the item. Especially if it's new enough to still be available in the cash shop.)

[Damien_The_Omen]

Pandurz

`deja vu

Steps to seeing hidden items.

1) Got to tektek's Dream Creator
2) Go to user's profile
3) Copy the part bolded in the profile url. www.gaiaonline.com/profiles/?u=######
4) Go back to tektek's Dream Creator
5) Go to Search Items
6) Paste what you copied. u=######
7) the ##### = numbers copied from the profile url.
8 ) Click search
9) Dream creator shows you whats on that ava.

Got the word i was looking for, then I LOL'd at the pic.

Umm....It's already been noted a page or so back that this doesn't work if the person has already disabled viewing his equipped items list here. And......gah.

@ChrisJS: The choice to interact with others about your equipped items is entirely up to the individual. While I can say I respect your decision, I must regretfully say that I have little respect for those who want the feature to hide them taken away because they've had a bad experience with it, or because they think the advertising of certain items is in need of defense. On that note.....

@AloysiusWeasley: Respect is earned, not given. This false sense of "control" you speak of has nothing to do with it, and I'm quite certain that people with unique skins or super-expensive "2004/2005/etc." items have a far greater sense of superiority than me. I personally didn't join this site to "interact with others" or "be part of the community". I came here because being here gave me something to do when I was bored out of my skull. If someone has a problem with the fact that I want to be left alone & don't want to be bothered while I'm having fun here all by myself, that doesn't give them the right to want to make it my problem, too.

[coldheartedangel]

Mine is blocked. But i have alot of things blocked.
I don't see it as an issue, i rather like it.

[Joshua Leoncoeur]

Here's a potential way blocking could lose Gaia money, just a scenario I thought up off the top of my head.

New user comes in, just after the advent of an EI's evolution. This user sees many avatars with poses from this EI. He tries to figure out what the item is, because, damn, it's pretty cool looking. All he sees is "Does not allow viewing of items." from these people. So, he PMs one or two. They see his newbie avatar and say something along the lines of "screw you" or something because they presumed hacker or troll mule thanks to his newbie gear.

User who could've purchased EI says "******** it, I'll get something else." and goes somewhere else where he and money are likely better received.

Disclaimer: Totally made this off the top of my head, it's just a potential scenario.

[Zingh]

I understand why the option is there to turn off the viewable equipped list. I don't like it very much and I, too, get a little irritated when I'm faced with someone who doesn't allow their equips to be viewed. But I get why it's there.

Almost everything on this site has an opt-out. You can choose not to receive PMs. You can choose not to have your profile public. You can choose not to see the Daily Chance carts. You can choose not to see that you're earning gold by surfing, posting, polling, etc. You can choose who sees that you're online, if anyone at all. You can prevent users from visiting your house in towns. You can choose not to be invited into guilds.

The equipped list just has been deemed a "customizable option" just like the other "options" above. I wish it hadn't been, I really don't like that you can turn your equipped list off, but someone somewhere decided that it should be an option, not a requirement, and users were given the opportunity to opt-out if they want.

Or at least, that's how I justify it to myself. Otherwise, it would annoy me a lot more. The reasons why someone turns it off isn't really important, they are given the option to and they can if they want. Just like almost every other option on this site, you can use it or you don't have to if it's not something you want to use. So I don't begrudge them that given option, even if it irritates me. It's their choice, or Gaia's choice to give us that choice, not mine. Reversing it would seem strange, since so much of this site is already customizable.

[AloysiusWeasley]

Damien_The_Omen

AloysiusWeasley

No, it just makes you look like even more of a wannabe special snowflake. I'm not going to stretch the page with a big-a** quote tree because you can't reply properly.

I am replying properly. I don't see anything about "post etiquette" on the site that says we're not supposed to/allowed to respond to each point of a user's post in turn.

Again, I ask - why is it that those of us who are perfectly fine with the feature should be punished just because a bunch of other people don't like it? Right, so.......because I (and others like me) have respect for the privacy of other people, and you (and others like you) don't, that makes us fussy. Thank you EVER so much for clarifying that.[/sarcasm]

From the way you & that other person chose to cheer & squee about my outfit (which wasn't even the complete list, btw - and thank you, Flying Dicks, for pointing out that Tektek can't just magically generate a list of items from a blocked avatar), that kind of contradicts your "we don't care" statement. No, I wouldn't "spit on" a person who asked me what I had equipped. I usually don't answer at all, because these days, it's difficult to discern "new users" from "hackers & scammers". What "harms me" is having to block all PMs from people who might have a legitimate reason to want to talk to me, because a few beggars/scammers/hackers are suddenly interested in being my friend just because of one little expensive item I'm wearing, or because I'm selling something expensive in the Marketplace, and they're too lazy or too cheap to earn the gold required to buy it (without cheating, of course) & fork it over.

How the hell is this hindering your usage of the site? Nowhere around here does it say that one person blocking you from viewing their equipped items prevents you from EVER seeing those same items anywhere else. If something as insignificant as having equipped lists disabled makes your life that much difficult, then I would strongly suggest you get out more, and not spend so much time on the computer. This is me being completely serious, btw, because you being up in arms about one little feature is clearly indicative of something that I don't want to know about. Kaiba did have a good point, and on that note, I stress again that the option of answering PMs asking what a user is wearing is entirely up to that user. If they choose not to talk to you, it's nothing to make a big deal over. On the other hand, if they choose to be abusive and harass you about it at the same time as when they refuse to answer your questions, then it certainly is.

@ Flying Dicks: This happens to be the first time I've ever come across a topic like this, and I found it to be unwarranted ridiculousness right from the start. As for your examples.......If a person is going to act like a *****, then they really shouldn't pretend that they have a right to be surprised when another person responds in kind. I find it eye-rolling laughable how it's perfectly okay for the absolute jerks (i.e., people who reply with far worse than anything you've seen from me) who frequent this particular board to reply with things like "baaawwww" and claim that anyone who disagrees with them is (insert offensive comment here), but when someone with common sense does it, everyone wants to be first in chopping that person's head off.

This whole topic was blown way out of proportion from the outset before I even began posting here, because of certain users acting as if one little feature severely detracts from their experience with using the site, and treating those who choose to utilize it as if they're invoking some sort of apocalyptic ritual, or they're just simply the cruelest bastards on the face of the planet. I'm not stubborn or selfish by not wanting other people to see what my avatar wears. There's nothing in the rules of this "community" that says I HAVE to let other people know exactly what I have equipped. I just simply prefer to be left alone, and people making asinine requests such as what was in the originating post only make that more difficult.

...You see everyone quoting one way, then choose to do it a completely different way that requires a butt-ton of coding and is exceedingly annoying to boot?

Yea, and why should a bunch of people who want to know something perfectly innocent about an avatar be punished? By the way, I just LOVE how you call me "nosy" when there are few things I hate more than nosy people. Since you have no idea what "nosy" actually means, let me clarify. "Nosy" is when you have neighbors questioning your every move, staring at you out their windows when you do nothing more than go for a walk, and poking their nose into your every day, REAL LIFE business. Calling someone who wants to know what one item is on a plain-sight avatar on a gorram public forum "nosy" is laughable. And if it's "privacy" you're seeking, you might want to stick to posting in hidden guilds.

Nah, that was mostly to get under your skin, to point out how ridiculous you're acting about it. You make people waste their time, and then you can't even be bothered to answer a simple question? And you tell ME to step away and go outside? I would NEVER refuse to answer a PM or comment like that, because that is deliberately rude and cruel. Ten seconds of your day at most to help someone out, and that's all it costs you. And don't even think about whining at me about having PM's set to private - with the tank in my siggy, unless I wanted my entire investment to go to waste, I can't do that. So my PM's are always wide open to whatever may come, and I likely get more beggars and scammers than you. Report, delete, whatever.

If you say so - some poses of EI's are very seldom used, and those boots I mentioned earlier? Didn't see them again until long after I'd figured out what they were. You're really failing to understand that there are thousands of items on this site, and I can go a looong time in between seeing quite a few of them them. Your avvie is riddled with common items, but an interesting avvie utilizing something I haven't seen before or an odd pose of an EI isn't something you just say "Oh, well, I'll just click on the equipped list of someone else in this thread and get it". Also, just adore how you get to choose what issues are worth my time and what aren't. I fight for things that would help the site and the users, kthx.

Also, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL @ your reply to Flying Dicks. I initially replied to you because you were by far the rudest person so far in the thread. I wasn't exactly looking for TL;DR tussles, but I'm not going to stand for seeing people insulted when you are the one insulting them, and with ridiculous and laughable arguments to boot. I'm still sniggering over your supposed "common sense" (not seeing any from you, by the way), when all I can say from your replies, most particularly the last paragraph in your reply above, is that coming from someone who can be relentlessly cruel and exceedingly antisocial, it astonishes me how rude you are to your fellow Gaians.

Lastly, let me see if I get this right. You disable your equipped list so people will "leave you alone", yet that means their only recourse is to PM you? Wouldn't it, you know, make a lot more sense to keep it enabled so they DON'T contact you? rofl

[Corinth Maxwell]

Joshua Leoncoeur

Here's a potential way blocking could lose Gaia money, just a scenario I thought up off the top of my head.

New user comes in, just after the advent of an EI's evolution. This user sees many avatars with poses from this EI. He tries to figure out what the item is, because, damn, it's pretty cool looking. All he sees is "Does not allow viewing of items." from these people. So, he PMs one or two. They see his newbie avatar and say something along the lines of "screw you" or something because they presumed hacker or troll mule thanks to his newbie gear.

User who could've purchased EI says "******** it, I'll get something else." and goes somewhere else where he and money are likely better received.

Disclaimer: Totally made this off the top of my head, it's just a potential scenario.

I'm not entirely sure, but.......isn't a person able to report users such as what you describe for abusive behavior? neutral

Also.......While I don't take things to an absolute extreme as this Damien fellow does, I have to say that the views on blocking equipment lists aren't unwarranted. I try to avoid the forums unless there's something I would like to weigh in on as far as opinions go, and even then, it's rather difficult to keep people from noticing that I'm wearing quite a few expensive items. Do I have my equipment list blocked? Yes. Do I have a problem with people who ask me politely what I'm wearing? No. Does that mean that because I'm nice enough to answer a random person's question, that I'll suddenly want to be their friend & give them free items? Certainly not.

There are lots of features that I'd like to see the option to have disabled by personal preference, and at one time, I even wanted the Aquariums removed entirely. Doesn't mean any of it will happen, though. The "disable equipped list" is fine the way it is. As was previously said, world's not gonna end if the feature stays. Might make it more troublesome to live in, but.....No one said that everything was supposed to be automatically easy.

[Joshua Leoncoeur]

Corinth Maxwell

Joshua Leoncoeur

Here's a potential way blocking could lose Gaia money, just a scenario I thought up off the top of my head.

New user comes in, just after the advent of an EI's evolution. This user sees many avatars with poses from this EI. He tries to figure out what the item is, because, damn, it's pretty cool looking. All he sees is "Does not allow viewing of items." from these people. So, he PMs one or two. They see his newbie avatar and say something along the lines of "screw you" or something because they presumed hacker or troll mule thanks to his newbie gear.

User who could've purchased EI says "******** it, I'll get something else." and goes somewhere else where he and money are likely better received.

Disclaimer: Totally made this off the top of my head, it's just a potential scenario.

I'm not entirely sure, but.......isn't a person able to report users such as what you describe for abusive behavior? neutral

Relevant part quoted, no more.

Certainly, reports are viable in such a circumstance, but would a newbie just wanting to learn an item and getting soundly told to "******** off" really care about reporting if their impression of the users was negative enough to make them leave or otherwise just screw interaction with others?

[Corinth Maxwell]

Joshua Leoncoeur

Certainly, reports are viable in such a circumstance, but would a newbie just wanting to learn an item and getting soundly told to "******** off" really care about reporting if their impression of the users was negative enough to make them leave or otherwise just screw interaction with others?

One or two users does not an entire user base make. I would expect that such a new user who read through the TOS upon signing up would report these abusive people, and let the mods deal with them accordingly. Or, of course, take the other option, and ask someone else what a certain user has equipped.

@ AloysiusWeasley: stressed Don't fall for this trap. Abrasive as he is, he (unfortunately) still has a right to his opinion, and you're starting to sound almost as bad as he is. sweatdrop

[AloysiusWeasley]

Andromeda Phoenix

@AloysiusWeasley: I'll be the first to say that most of the reasoning for the disabling suck. There's only two that make remote sense imo. "Doing it to start conversation/make friends", nevermind the fact that that's what the forums are for, and the "I don't want people copying my avatars", but only because the work around requires users switching to another avi, which could be viewed as inconvenient. But then again, it's also inconvenient to go through the equipped lists of five different avis wearing the same damn item pose 'cause they have viewing their equipped item lists disabled. *rages*

I'm really not sure tho. 'Cause occasionally you'll see people throwing their hands up in frustration at the disabling of the feature, but the same goes for people saying that's how the feature should be. It doesn't seem like a crazy big deal. It doesn't effect your experience to the point where it makes you sign off or something, And do we really need those in favor of the ability to disable it. To me, it feels like one of those "keep the peace" things. sweatdrop

No no, I did first! xD *teases*
The only real reason I ever saw (and dernit, I wish I had that Dev quote on why they did it, I'm SURE that's what the reasoning was for allowing them to be disabled) was for Arena avvies. The whole thing was really just trying to imply that copying avvies was a common thing, and as someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, I never see people copying other's avvies unless it's for something like Twin Day or whatever (deliberate, I mean). Gah, the whole "to make friends" thing is so creepy, it's making me lulz over the user who disabled it for just that reason in the last thread. The most interesting things that ever come from someone asking me what something is are "Can I has it? =D " or "Can u Tektek me?!" >.<

Eh, I just see the people frustrated over it being disabled a ton more than people ever mentioning how happy they are they can disable it. The funny part is, about half the time their list will be disabled, but yet they'll have it up in their profile. The bad part is that it's becoming more and more common, from what I've seen lately.

@Pallas Athea: The problem is that new people don't know how to do most of those things (If I had a nickel for every time I saw one ask how to take a screenie... >.< ). It would be a lot less of a hassle for everyone if Gaia made more of an effort to update the MP tags though, the way it's set up now really doesn't help when it comes to searching relevant keywords, as I saw last night with a user frustrated because all the guns on here aren't even labeled with "guns". xp

@Hazelaar: Agreed so much about hating the old system. My fierce hatred of custom profiles stems from that. >.<
As for how I think it might hurt the site, I think Joshua Leoncoeur's latest post sums it up pretty well. While the newest MC's are easily recognizable and splashed all over the site, that just isn't the case with EI's. Gogh Reed tripped me up a lot when it was still evolving, and there are poses to this day I've never seen equipped on anyone. While I or most other people in this thread would just find out what EI it was from and go search the gens, newer people are going to be confused, and I think it's a confusion that could be easily fixed by allowing all equipped lists, having the lists show what pose of an EI is being used, and having the tags on the MP updated. It just seems to me it would save a lot more people a lot of time and effort, compared to what really seems like pissing off a very, very small amount of people.