Congratulations SIN

[LadyScratch]

Okat let me try it this way. I think that this event is presented in the most horrible way imaginable. The winner should have won something and the loser should have NOT won that thing. As it stands we can only get punished not rewarded.

What makes the punishment method even more troubling is that we are not even competing properly, nothing that we do actually effects the other team and lets blow your ******** mind. Nothing we do actually effects our own score either. I think that doing a build should give us 1 build doing a power should charge us 1% Sabotage? You take away 1%.

If we could actually contribute to out score instead of contributing the the thing that seemingly has a chance to sometimes effect the thing that scores then many people could have more team pride at their accomplishment rather then just a sucky confused feeling about the fear of losing their skin. Lots of bad choices were made in the Dev's side.

Making it a point to have everyone suffer seems very childish. Even if you don't like the event and hate the skins if you win you should try to enjoy the skin, well deserved or otherwise.

[x Tiryn]

Jayce Reinhardt

x Tiryn

Jayce Reinhardt

@x Tiryn, thank you for posting your opinion in a calm and logical way. It's nice that some people can be civilized about it.

You're welcome.

But really.
Why shouldn't the winners recieve the skin?
It's a grueling process to remain in the lead.
Why does the winner have to be punished for all their hard work?

I actually think that the winner should get the skin, but only the winner.

To put such importance on a skin seems over the top silly to me. It is just a skin and not really worth stamping ones foot and saying "If I can't get one too I'm leaving the sandbox and going home!!"

I really can't wrap my brain around the fact that some people think this skin is soo freaking important that the whole event sucks for them and Gaia sucks too.

We still have eight days to compete so WTH?

I agree, it is silly to be making such a fuss over a skin. Though I'm not really a fan of skins so that might be why :/

My prediction is that Gaia will put the losers skin in Skin Tyte or something and the winner keeps their skin for free. It seems rather pointless for them to take the time to make the skin just to delete it.

But as for taking away the skin from both sides would just create more harm than good really. People would just be pissed off and whine even more.

[Grimlikins]

Jayce Reinhardt

This is a fact, whoever wins or loses, the loser will have a temper tantrum.

To avoid this, neither side gets a skin and it is all the losers fault.
Besides, the event is optional so if you don't care for it, noone is holding a gun to your head and saying you HAVE to do this event.

Try relaxing a bit and attempt to just have fun.

Won't that just make everyone flame the losers for whining and making ALL the skins go away? So aside from losing they also get to bare the brunt of Gaia's fury for ruining everyone's chance? and subsequently making the entire event pointless to many?

[Jayce Reinhardt]

Mindless_Fury

The winner should have won something and the loser should have lost something.

This is my point.

The alternative should not be that everyone wins a skin, it should be that if you simply cannot fathom yourself being a winner even though we still have 8 days for this then you should get nothing, nada, zip, ziltch, zero.

You lose charlie, you don't win the chocolate factory.

The winner wins, the losers can congratulate the winners (Y'know like normal people do) and still have the robes, the pendants, the maces, the portal backgrounds, ETC.

Why should both sides get a skin?

Grimlikins

Won't that just make everyone flame the losers for whining and making ALL the skins go away? So aside from losing they also get to bare the brunt of Gaia's fury for ruining everyone's chance? and subsequently making the entire event pointless to many?

But it already IS pointless to many, they are already acting as if they have lost.

And I would laugh SO HARD if that happened, even if my team lost.

[Andromeda Phoenix]

Two more things run through my mind. Are users more mad with the way it's presented than the actual loss of the skin? Meaning, if they didn't give us any skins when the event started and said, "Only the winning team gets a skin", would we have more or less complaints?

The second is if the skins were more "awesome-looking" to more users, would there be more complaints. One of the main reasons I'm seeing for "not caring" is "the skins don't look that great."

[Grimlikins]

Jayce Reinhardt

Mindless_Fury

The winner should have won something and the loser should have lost something.

This is my point.

The alternative should not be that everyone wins a skin, it should be that if you simply cannot fathom yourself being a winner even though we still have 8 days for this then you should get nothing, nada, zip, ziltch, zero.

You lose charlie, you don't win the chocolate factory.

The winner wins, the losers can congratulate the winners (Y'know like normal people do) and still have the robes, the pendants, the maces, the portal backgrounds, ETC.

Why should both sides get a skin?

Grimlikins

Won't that just make everyone flame the losers for whining and making ALL the skins go away? So aside from losing they also get to bare the brunt of Gaia's fury for ruining everyone's chance? and subsequently making the entire event pointless to many?

But it already IS pointless to many, they are already acting as if they have lost.

And I would laugh SO HARD if that happened, even if my team lost.

But you want to punish the whiners right?...which would be the losers I assume...isn't it already punishment that they don't get their skin and Gaia's way of not condoning whining would be to not cave and give them one anyway.
And I really have seen a lot of people being fair about it actually...so I don't see a reason at all to rip away the skin completely from everyone because some people lose hope....there will always be whiners....you can either let them get to you or , as you said, have fun and enjoy the event. I don't care if some people are acting like they're lost already...that's their own tough crap for not trying, and in any event there will always be baww. They chose their way to deal and we chose ours, we shouldn't get punished for it.

I do see what you mean though...people are throwing such b***h fits before they even find out the outcome it makes you want to give them nothing. But some people aren't doing this. You don't condemn a population for it's varying opinion. ....er, well....unless you're in politics

[Jayce Reinhardt]

Andromeda Phoenix

Two more things run through my mind. Are users more mad with the way it's presented than the actual loss of the skin? Meaning, if they didn't give us any skins when the event started and said, "Only the winning team gets a skin", would we have more or less complaints?

The second is if the skins were more "awesome-looking" to more users, would there be more complaints. One of the main reasons I'm seeing for "not caring" is "the skins don't look that great."

I wish I could give you answers but regretfully I don't have them.

Sorry.

But your post does give food for thought which I like.

Edit - HOMG its 3am, I gotta get some sleep!

[Andromeda Phoenix]

Jayce Reinhardt

Andromeda Phoenix

Two more things run through my mind. Are users more mad with the way it's presented than the actual loss of the skin? Meaning, if they didn't give us any skins when the event started and said, "Only the winning team gets a skin", would we have more or less complaints?

The second is if the skins were more "awesome-looking" to more users, would there be more complaints. One of the main reasons I'm seeing for "not caring" is "the skins don't look that great."

I wish I could give you answers but regretfully I don't have them.

Sorry.

But your post does give food for thought which I like.

Edit - HOMG its 3am, I gotta get some sleep!

It's alright. I don't think the devs even have these answers.

It's really why I'm at a loss of what to think. There's a lot less people concerned about this then it should be. It opens a door to more events that end this way. I know if the skins wow'd me more, I'd be annoyed with this decision, but depending on how fun the event is, I'd be more motivated to participate. *ponders*

[AloysiusWeasley]

Personally, I think both sides should get to keep the skins, as we have in previous events (notably last year's Halloween event), and because I don't like the staff's mentality behind taking one away. I don't like the kicking and screaming either, but I can understand why they don't like it. I would also like to add that I very much dislike how they haven't said whether or not the skins will be in Skin Tyte - I mean, will the losing team's side get stripped off and thrown away forever?

Also, I will add before anyone asks that I don't like either one. xp

[Angeloni87]

you know...I rather agree. I mean don't get me wrong. They are nice, but if everyone's going to fight and moan about who's side is winning and blah blah blabbady blah, then don't give neither side the skins.

[kollin1308]

wow ur not even being logical u stupid baka

this event is a competion between 2 sides

in a competion there are winners and losers

1 person has to win or one has to lose (not being in a case were there is a draw)

the person who wins gets a prize becuase they won

the person who loses gets nothing

thats how a compition goes

its like he olimpympics theres a loser and winner winner gets a medal losers get
noothing

very simple so shut up and stop being stuburn

[Nyadriel]

kollin1308

wow ur not even being logical u stupid baka

this event is a competion between 2 sides

in a competion there are winners and losers

1 person has to win or one has to lose (not being in a case were there is a draw)

the person who wins gets a prize becuase they won

the person who loses gets nothing

thats how a compition goes

its like he olimpympics theres a loser and winner winner gets a medal losers get
noothing

very simple so shut up and stop being stuburn

Pretty much what I think (with the exception of the first (especially so here) and last sentece which I assume is sarcasm)

I have another thought which I really dont want to bring up but is in regards TO future events - one in particular that concerns me greatly because I do not wish for THIS with the skins to happen to THAT with another item. I am already premonitioning (which I have a bad habit of doing and more often than not wish I was wrong about these things) about that and am not liking it. If it DOES happen, there will be MAJOR b***h-festing the likes you would not believe. Not only in the final design of the trophy items if that is what they will use, but also the circumstances that we have here with the skins. I would rather we all had those future items that is kept by all sides or saved for the series of events I am under the understanding of how we will obtain them.

Some others have pointed out that the skin of the "losing" side will lose their skins which are currently soulbound. That there is a possibility that it will be released later either as a potion or in some other way. Some people would rather not have them at all and will whine later on that its "cluttering up their inventories". We will be hearing that before too long in about a week or two after the event is over. You know we will. I can hear the echoes now. I am assuming for now that the skin of the winning side will remain a soulbound trophy.

So the question becomes, which of either side wants to keep the skins as trophies more?
I love both skins by the way. Kudos to the Artist that made them.

[Bardic Inspiration]

kollin1308

wow ur not even being logical u stupid baka

this event is a competion between 2 sides

in a competion there are winners and losers

1 person has to win or one has to lose (not being in a case were there is a draw)

the person who wins gets a prize becuase they won

the person who loses gets nothing

thats how a compition goes

its like he olimpympics theres a loser and winner winner gets a medal losers get
noothing

very simple so shut up and stop being stuburn

Calling people stupid though and telling them to shut up in the SF is a bad idea. And you can be reported as its against the rules.

There's a difference that you're not seeing. The prizes were given out before the event began. I think if it were presented differently, like the skins weren't handed out at all, and we'd just be promised a new skin in the end, there would most likely be less complaints. Its letting Gaians have a new skin to play around with and find ways to love (as some like me have) then only to be that at the end of the event we're going to have one of the skins taken away? That is bad form.

And if you were even around for the Gaian olympics, each team got a trophy. Winners and Loosers alike. They were different trophies, but each team got one. Just saying.

[Sinivar]

Bardic Inspiration

kollin1308

wow ur not even being logical u stupid baka

this event is a competion between 2 sides

in a competion there are winners and losers

1 person has to win or one has to lose (not being in a case were there is a draw)

the person who wins gets a prize becuase they won

the person who loses gets nothing

thats how a compition goes

its like he olimpympics theres a loser and winner winner gets a medal losers get
noothing

very simple so shut up and stop being stuburn

Calling people stupid though and telling them to shut up in the SF is a bad idea. And you can be reported as its against the rules.

There's a difference that you're not seeing. The prizes were given out before the event began. I think if it were presented differently, like the skins weren't handed out at all, and we'd just be promised a new skin in the end, there would most likely be less complaints. Its letting Gaians have a new skin to play around with and find ways to love (as some like me have) then only to be that at the end of the event we're going to have one of the skins taken away? That is bad form.

And if you were even around for the Gaian olympics, each team got a trophy. Winners and Loosers alike. They were different trophies, but each team got one. Just saying.

I have to agree with this. The fact that they gave the item first and then told us, now go fight over it?

If you're calling Gaia our parent, they'd technically already be a bad one. You don't give two children a toy from the get-go and tell them to fight over it.

But then, I believe they fully expected and wanted this sort of reaction. They most likely won't cave in because they want to recreate the Grombie situation. An elite skin that only a select few can have. And they have stated before that they are not against 'creating' elitism.

They want people to whine. They want people to be angry. Why? Because they love watching us fight each other for it and then the the pot simmer while those with skins taunt those without.

What I don't understand is why this needed to be something that pitted the userbase so much against each other. The past years have been fun and competitive. But since there was no 'winner only' item that couldn't be obtained in the MP, even with the outcome people still were able to have fun with the whole "town pride" aspect. It was all for competitive -fun-.

I don't see why we needed this change-up to literally pit us against each other. Holidays are meant to be enjoyed. Not to feel disappointed and left out. This isn't the Superbowl. It isn't the Olympics. It's just supposed to be a fun way to spend a holiday. And I personally don't appreciate Gaia telling me I need to work to potentially take away something from someone that they enjoy if I want to be part of this event.