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Pretty sure they're so strict with avatar-"nudity" is because someone who doesn't "get" anime-style (and lawyers looking for lawsuit opportunities rarely do) could argue that because of the big head and the SD body, avatars look like children - same with a lot of anime art.
That said,

a) Personally, I don't think that avatars look like children at all - they look like anime SD chibis obviously. But child pornography is something that is fortunately being taken very seriously by authorities, and it's not unlikely (especially since before Anime became mainstream in the mid/late 90s it was mainly known for hentai anyway, so a lot of older people still perceive it that way) that someone would go overzealous and cause a lot of drama for Gaia for above reason. Things like that have happened.

b) I completely agree with you: nudity is something natural and nothing bad at all, while gore and violence are... not so great. I'm European and it always boggles my mind how prude, yet accepting of violence American media/society in general is.

c) The rules and the extend of those is up to mods, and you'll find that one mod will judge a situation completely differently from another. I've seen people get warnings for posting completely innocent avatar art that didn't feature any suggestive post AT ALL - some mod must've been out to get his ratio done. It's also really questionable and ridiculous that Gaia release avatar items that, if drawn on a human body (be it anime style or realistic) wouldn't pass.
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Before TWD if I had a kid I would have allowed them on here even with the more suggestive sexual item combinations and stuff, and the violent content that showed blood or skeletons. But with the more violent, out of the norm, demonic (IMO for Antipathy) content that some of TWD and Antipathy
has. I find it disturbing to see it on gaia (and trust me I have a high tolerance for it all.) especially if its base guidelines requires you to be 13 to join. Sure if you are comparing it to movies you got some blood and violence maybe even a scary skeleton, but not this level of gore in a pg-13 movie. If age was seriously an issue they wouldn't be posting this level of gore even if its just cutesy pixels. Its still something graphic it may not be real but its still depicting it just like fake guts and blood in movies.

In a proper work environment whatever guidelines the costumers are held to so are the employees/ employers. All I'm saying is less hypocrisy really. I'm neither asking for more sexual content nor gory/ super violent scenarios. Gaia IMO is suppose to be a place of fun not something I should start to question where they stand on whats right and wrong.


On CSI I've seen a disgusting bloody corpse mangled by a garbage truck. On The Walking Dead they regularly have gory zombies missing parts coming after people. South Park regularly shows lots of gore, hell, they show things that even I can't believe they can get away with. Superjail and Metalocalpyse on Adult Swim show people getting killed in lots of gory and violent ways every damn episode.

All of these are rated TV-14. All of them have been on the air for several years and all are equal to or in many cases exceed the gore and guts available on Gaia.
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c) The rules and the extend of those is up to mods, and you'll find that one mod will judge a situation completely differently from another. I've seen people get warnings for posting completely innocent avatar art that didn't feature any suggestive post AT ALL - some mod must've been out to get his ratio done. It's also really questionable and ridiculous that Gaia release avatar items that, if drawn on a human body (be it anime style or realistic) wouldn't pass.
Depending on how the art was done, the mod might have wrong. If the art didn't show anything like nipples or other 'private parts' (as in, they were covered), then it should have been fine to post. If it did show nipples or other private parts, it should be linked with an appropriate warning.

I couldn't intimidate a child, and believe me, I've tried.
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Before TWD if I had a kid I would have allowed them on here even with the more suggestive sexual item combinations and stuff, and the violent content that showed blood or skeletons. But with the more violent, out of the norm, demonic (IMO for Antipathy) content that some of TWD and Antipathy
has. I find it disturbing to see it on gaia (and trust me I have a high tolerance for it all.) especially if its base guidelines requires you to be 13 to join. Sure if you are comparing it to movies you got some blood and violence maybe even a scary skeleton, but not this level of gore in a pg-13 movie. If age was seriously an issue they wouldn't be posting this level of gore even if its just cutesy pixels. Its still something graphic it may not be real but its still depicting it just like fake guts and blood in movies.

In a proper work environment whatever guidelines the costumers are held to so are the employees/ employers. All I'm saying is less hypocrisy really. I'm neither asking for more sexual content nor gory/ super violent scenarios. Gaia IMO is suppose to be a place of fun not something I should start to question where they stand on whats right and wrong.


On CSI I've seen a disgusting bloody corpse mangled by a garbage truck. On The Walking Dead they regularly have gory zombies missing parts coming after people. South Park regularly shows lots of gore, hell, they show things that even I can't believe they can get away with. Superjail and Metalocalpyse on Adult Swim show people getting killed in lots of gory and violent ways every damn episode.

All of these are rated TV-14. All of them have been on the air for several years and all are equal to or in many cases exceed the gore and guts available on Gaia.



Yeah but you got to remember a few things A) Its all based on the channel organization that usually decides these things. B) Just cause they make it so doesn't make it right either, just like you said your surprised with some of the things they can get away with. C) A rating is usually set for each individual episode of a television series. The rating can change per episode, network, rerun and per country. As such it is impossible to state what kind of rating a program has, without stating when and where this rating applied.

You also got to consider if these were in theater which tend to have a more appropriate rating for the most part would be rated R=17/18 and up (aka South Park The Movie).

For the most part all I'm saying is just cause you can do it doesn't mean you should. At the rate this country and even the world as a whole is going, our morals are spiraling down at a pretty fast pace. Eventually someone has to say enough, put our foots down and start taking responsibility.
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Gaia IMO is suppose to be a place of fun not something I should start to question where they stand on whats right and wrong.




How does the addition of gore automatically not equal fun?

Also, this isn't a kid site...There are worse things that kids can see on TV then TWD sponsor items or even the most recent Halloween REI.


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Cause the addition of gore is off putting people (whoever they are) thus not allowing them to enjoy the site as much.

No squat this isn't a kid site, but neither is this a gore/sex fest lets get all our sexual and violent desires come to life site. Just cause something is there doesn't mean we/ they should be watching or doing such things.

Like I said to the other guy; "For the most part all I'm saying is just cause you can do it doesn't mean you should. At the rate this country and even the world as a whole is going, our morals are spiraling down at a pretty fast pace. Eventually someone has to say enough, put our foots down and start taking responsibility."
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Eventually someone has to say enough, put our foots down and start taking responsibility."



Whose's foot? Your's? The OP's? Mine? The other person you quoted? The moral majority? The moral minority?


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Like I said to the other guy; "For the most part all I'm saying is just cause you can do it doesn't mean you should. At the rate this country and even the world as a whole is going, our morals are spiraling down at a pretty fast pace. Eventually someone has to say enough, put our foots down and start taking responsibility."


So whose standards are we going to judge by? You can see by the dissent in this thread that we all have different personal standards about what is and isn't acceptable. Gaia abides by the so-called "community standards" that US law calls for. They are the same standards that all the other examples I mentioned abide by.

So what standards is Gaia to follow? Yours? Mine? Or the ones required by law in the country Gaia is in?
Also, who are you to dictate what other people's morals should be? What morals we should follow? Shitty people have shitty morals, people don't just wake up one day and go "Wow I want to kill someone," or other such awful things, contrary to what a lot of people like to believe and are led to believe. The vast majority of us do have a rather good moral compass, and I think it's silly bringing in some statement like "blah blah morals spiraling down" into this discussion. Uhm, really?

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