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Mamarita, I think I have mentioned this before to you, or perhaps it was someone else in the GGN, but reacting this way when another feature gets an update is not how you get the attention you want.
With the way you are wording things, one could easily take this as either flaming or trolling, and even report you for this. I say this out of experience, not to threaten you.
In order to get the guilds noticed, you need to speak directly to the higher-ups in a calm, business-like manner. You can't be blowing up in their faces when they have updated something else.
Like Rya stated, the coding is more than likely so outdated that if the guilds are Revamped, practically every thread will be erased in the process. This is probably why they are "avoiding" an update at this time.
Pan is no longer a developer in the fields he was in, he's head of Engineering.. Or something like that.. Now. Please, calm down. I don't think there is a Dev in the Spring Cleaning Forum to go through the proposals and bring them up to the higher ups to be discussed. And I doubt there is a single dev assigned to the guilds.
You've waited what? 5 years? That seriously isn't a very long time, if you really think about it.. You can wait a little longer, without blowing up on people the moment something else is updated. You cannot tell the devs and admins what to do with their business, but you can suggest things and try to be helpful in letting them know exactly what you want.
With the way you are wording things, one could easily take this as either flaming or trolling, and even report you for this. I say this out of experience, not to threaten you.
In order to get the guilds noticed, you need to speak directly to the higher-ups in a calm, business-like manner. You can't be blowing up in their faces when they have updated something else.
Like Rya stated, the coding is more than likely so outdated that if the guilds are Revamped, practically every thread will be erased in the process. This is probably why they are "avoiding" an update at this time.
Pan is no longer a developer in the fields he was in, he's head of Engineering.. Or something like that.. Now. Please, calm down. I don't think there is a Dev in the Spring Cleaning Forum to go through the proposals and bring them up to the higher ups to be discussed. And I doubt there is a single dev assigned to the guilds.
You've waited what? 5 years? That seriously isn't a very long time, if you really think about it.. You can wait a little longer, without blowing up on people the moment something else is updated. You cannot tell the devs and admins what to do with their business, but you can suggest things and try to be helpful in letting them know exactly what you want.
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Mamarita, I think I have mentioned this before to you, or perhaps it was someone else in the GGN, but reacting this way when another feature gets an update is not how you get the attention you want.
With the way you are wording things, one could easily take this as either flaming or trolling, and even report you for this. I say this out of experience, not to threaten you.
In order to get the guilds noticed, you need to speak directly to the higher-ups in a calm, business-like manner. You can't be blowing up in their faces when they have updated something else.
Like Rya stated, the coding is more than likely so outdated that if the guilds are Revamped, practically every thread will be erased in the process. This is probably why they are "avoiding" an update at this time.
Pan is no longer a developer in the fields he was in, he's head of Engineering.. Or something like that.. Now. Please, calm down. I don't think there is a Dev in the Spring Cleaning Forum to go through the proposals and bring them up to the higher ups to be discussed. And I doubt there is a single dev assigned to the guilds.
You've waited what? 5 years? That seriously isn't a very long time, if you really think about it.. You can wait a little longer, without blowing up on people the moment something else is updated. You cannot tell the devs and admins what to do with their business, but you can suggest things and try to be helpful in letting them know exactly what you want.
With the way you are wording things, one could easily take this as either flaming or trolling, and even report you for this. I say this out of experience, not to threaten you.
In order to get the guilds noticed, you need to speak directly to the higher-ups in a calm, business-like manner. You can't be blowing up in their faces when they have updated something else.
Like Rya stated, the coding is more than likely so outdated that if the guilds are Revamped, practically every thread will be erased in the process. This is probably why they are "avoiding" an update at this time.
Pan is no longer a developer in the fields he was in, he's head of Engineering.. Or something like that.. Now. Please, calm down. I don't think there is a Dev in the Spring Cleaning Forum to go through the proposals and bring them up to the higher ups to be discussed. And I doubt there is a single dev assigned to the guilds.
You've waited what? 5 years? That seriously isn't a very long time, if you really think about it.. You can wait a little longer, without blowing up on people the moment something else is updated. You cannot tell the devs and admins what to do with their business, but you can suggest things and try to be helpful in letting them know exactly what you want.
…₩e ₳re Ƀut ₣rail ₴ouls łn ₮his ₦ever €nding night ₴ky
I'm sorry but five years is an understatement, the guilds coding hasn't been updated since the advent of the site.
They're avoiding the issue, you've seen the developers post in the GGN guild I presume and therefore know that they tend to spout the same repetitive 'justifications' over and over without any progress being made.
There is no good excuse why Gaia can't put the old guilds into hibernation, leave them on the site and build a new guilds system in it's place.
We were told point blank that Gaia wouldn't have time for the guilds and yet they've got time to make redundant updates to a feature that very few people use; can you see why a lot of us are frustrated?
Rita's been polite in the past, it doesn't get us anywhere and I can honestly see why she's so pissed; I personally am reaching a stage of apathy with it because I can see quite plainly now that Gaia really has no intention of helping the guilds and intents for them to fall apart (Which they will, the code is now so old that it's just a matter of time).
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Mamarita, I think I have mentioned this before to you, or perhaps it was someone else in the GGN, but reacting this way when another feature gets an update is not how you get the attention you want.
With the way you are wording things, one could easily take this as either flaming or trolling, and even report you for this. I say this out of experience, not to threaten you.
In order to get the guilds noticed, you need to speak directly to the higher-ups in a calm, business-like manner. You can't be blowing up in their faces when they have updated something else.
Like Rya stated, the coding is more than likely so outdated that if the guilds are Revamped, practically every thread will be erased in the process. This is probably why they are "avoiding" an update at this time.
Pan is no longer a developer in the fields he was in, he's head of Engineering.. Or something like that.. Now. Please, calm down. I don't think there is a Dev in the Spring Cleaning Forum to go through the proposals and bring them up to the higher ups to be discussed. And I doubt there is a single dev assigned to the guilds.
You've waited what? 5 years? That seriously isn't a very long time, if you really think about it.. You can wait a little longer, without blowing up on people the moment something else is updated. You cannot tell the devs and admins what to do with their business, but you can suggest things and try to be helpful in letting them know exactly what you want.
With the way you are wording things, one could easily take this as either flaming or trolling, and even report you for this. I say this out of experience, not to threaten you.
In order to get the guilds noticed, you need to speak directly to the higher-ups in a calm, business-like manner. You can't be blowing up in their faces when they have updated something else.
Like Rya stated, the coding is more than likely so outdated that if the guilds are Revamped, practically every thread will be erased in the process. This is probably why they are "avoiding" an update at this time.
Pan is no longer a developer in the fields he was in, he's head of Engineering.. Or something like that.. Now. Please, calm down. I don't think there is a Dev in the Spring Cleaning Forum to go through the proposals and bring them up to the higher ups to be discussed. And I doubt there is a single dev assigned to the guilds.
You've waited what? 5 years? That seriously isn't a very long time, if you really think about it.. You can wait a little longer, without blowing up on people the moment something else is updated. You cannot tell the devs and admins what to do with their business, but you can suggest things and try to be helpful in letting them know exactly what you want.
…₩e ₳re Ƀut ₣rail ₴ouls łn ₮his ₦ever €nding night ₴ky
I'm sorry but five years is an understatement, the guilds coding hasn't been updated since the advent of the site.
They're avoiding the issue, you've seen the developers post in the GGN guild I presume and therefore know that they tend to spout the same repetitive 'justifications' over and over without any progress being made.
There is no good excuse why Gaia can't put the old guilds into hibernation, leave them on the site and build a new guilds system in it's place.
We were told point blank that Gaia wouldn't have time for the guilds and yet they've got time to make redundant updates to a feature that very few people use; can you see why a lot of us are frustrated?
Rita's been polite in the past, it doesn't get us anywhere and I can honestly see why she's so pissed; I personally am reaching a stage of apathy with it because I can see quite plainly now that Gaia really has no intention of helping the guilds and intents for them to fall apart (Which they will, the code is now so old that it's just a matter of time).
Believe it or not, but I do understand the frustration. A Dev cannot do much at all, this I am sure, all of you should have understood by now. Leaving threads that tell people to harass members of the staff, or to "campaign" on Facebook to boycott for something like this is NOT the way to go. It doesn't matter how frustrated you get, it doesn't matter how nice you are. You have to treat a business in a business-like way, or NOTHING gets done and NO ONE comes to an understanding.
Take a look at how she is overreacting about an Update to Housing, which has also been badly needed. There are only so many people working on the features, not all of them have the authority, time, or resources to deal with people trying to start an outcry over the guilds. They have to find a way to update the coding without pissing off thousands of users for overwriting and ultimately deleting threads.
The Devs are repeating themselves because that is all they can do, they don't have any other information they can release, and I'd imagine it is frustrating them, as well, to get all these people wanting a change to a feature that badly needs it, and yet they can do nothing about it.
Seriously, there are other features that are also badly in need of updates. Guilds aren't the only ones.
