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Found a Database Error in Quests
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Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:37 am
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Hello all,
I have found a database error, when I go Quests, and click on a quest that I am currently on. I get the error as follows:
Quote: Database Error
Unable to load your quest details status. Please try again. Message #4
I first got this error after my power went out, for a few seconds (of course enough to turn the computer off).
My Operating System is WinME
My Web Browser is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070515 Firefox/2.0.0.4
My Internet is AT&T DSL as follows:
Communications 2.1 megabits per second
Storage 254.1 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4 seconds
Subjective rating Great
I currently use AVG Anti-Virus....I don't know if my Internet Provider has a firewall or not, never thought to ask them *shrugs*
I hope that I have supplied enough information, it may not be my computer, could just be a glitch in the database...and I searched everywhere to see if anyone else was having a problem, but it doesn't appear that they are *shrugs*
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You Are Stupid...Unless you're an Atheist
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Fri May 04, 2007 6:54 pm
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Fuzzy Poop I am atheist myself, but I tend to try to keep an open mind and try my best to learn about other religions and respect them. I think that everyone should follow this example OR just avoid bashing religious people about their religion. It is WRONG.
I can see exactly why you are infuriated with that author, I personally dislike the ways he presents his views as well.
In my perspective, Religion is a good thing. It gives people hope and comfort in times of need and people need to look up to someone. It isn't right for someone, especially an antheist to tell people that their religion isn't real, and take that comfort away from them.
Besides, what if God WAS really real? No one can prove or disprove it, it is only a matter in which wether you believe in God or not. If you choose not to believe then fine, don't crush other people and what they believe in.
What matters if you yourself PERSONALLY believe in a religion or not. If you don't have a religion, like myself, then fine. Just respect other people's views and stop trying to infuriate them.
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But in turn, I still must jump over to the other side as well. As much respect all antheists should give to the Religious people, The religious people in turn, should not try to convert or force people to believe in a religion.
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In conclusion to both sides, Ask yourselves this:
Why not try to understand that you should try to respect people's beliefs or disbeliefs? Even if they do not match your own?
*Bows* VERY WELL STATED!! KUDOS to you!!! Although, I do have my own beliefs, I really don't have a problem who believes in something that I may not agree with, or don't believe in what I believe....does that make that person bad? No, actually, to judge someone by how they believe or don't believe is as you said WRONG, and who knows, you maybe missing out on one of the GREATEST Friendships you could ever know wink
roothands Ramouth
But I've a feeling that the reason that MOST atheists feel that everyone is out to "get" them (at least in the United States), is because of several things, but mainly this: **In 1956, during the peak of the US Cold War, McCarthy, was on a communism witch hunt the US government placed 'in God we trust' into the pledge, to differentiate between communism, which was thought to promote Atheism.
True, but all of that frustration used to only be directed towards Christians, but it seems like it's directed towards anyone with a belief system these days. Oh, and I'm so sick of the whole term "Judeo-Christian," as in "Judeo-Christian beliefs" -- like what are those? As if the two groups are the same?! I blame that term for the fact that most people just assume that both religions believe all the same things. Judaism is not just like Christianity, without Jesus. Jews don't deserve to get s**t along with the Christians for the prayer in schools debate, "In God We Trust" s**t. Jews didn't want that s**t in the public arena in the first place!
Basically, "leave us alone and we'll leave you alone" is how it should stand.
It's true, that ALL beliefs at some point or another in History have been bashed, abused, tortured, and everything else that could have been thrown at them has. I assume it's to make us stronger in our beliefs, which is fine, but I do try to respect everyone's beliefs (or non-beliefs for that matter). I LOVE asking questions and finding out all I can about different beliefs, I find them VERY interesting, and VERY much similar in some ways.
My sister's life-partner is Jewish, and is VERY open-minded to other beliefs, that when I talk to her, I load her down with all kinds of questions (shame on me maybe, but I want to learn).
My husband is Agnostic, he believes that there is a higher power, and it doesn't matter what you call it (God, Great Spirit, etc.) it's the same higher power, it's just that different cultures and beliefs see it differently. Honestly he's the one who's REALLY opened my eyes to A LOT of things.
Now as for the "Judeo-Christian beliefs" I've heard so many different variations of the term, that I just can't keep up...in my opinion, if you're raised Jewish but have taken on some of the Christian beliefs....then you're still Jewish, but explain that you have taken on the Christian beliefs - same goes for a person who's raised Christian and have taken on the Jewish beliefs. But that's how religion is, SO MANY churches and beliefs have broken away from the main church and belief, because they didn't agree with something or whatever.
I agree, that people should respect eachother...but we're all human, and we all judge eachother if we aren't judging someone's beliefs, we're judging their culture, sexuality, their looks, their race...it's called human error, and we all have it.
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You Are Stupid...Unless you're an Atheist
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Thu May 03, 2007 11:30 pm
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roothands PirateEire Ramouth roothands I LOL when I see Atheists acting exactly like Christians.
Advertising their beliefs and pushing them on others.
Condemning other who don't believe the way they do.
I guess these kinds of Atheists fail to see the irony in what they are doing. Oh well.
SOO true, I thought the point behind being Atheist, was to NOT push off anything on anyone else, because they don't like it when Christians do it to them....I must have missed something. Apparently so, as atheism only includes the lack of belief in deities and nothing more. It's not a philosophy. Come on, people.
Even so, is it right to push what you believe on others? And condemn others for not believing what you believe?
Not to mention that Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Daoists, etc. don't proselytize, so why that hell do some atheists feel so ******** defensive about religion in general? As if we're out to get atheists or something. I've never tried to convert anyone, ever. So I really don't deserve the attitude I get from some atheists, and I will continue to call them on it. I've had atheists tell me they were smarter than me just because of the philosophy they choose to live their life by. Meanwhile, I don't claim to be smarter than anyone else because of my association with Judaism. It's stupid and unfair of these a*****e jerks. It also reflects badly on atheism in general.
While I do agree that it's wrong for ANYONE to push their belief off on anyone else, as you are right on about that. I've no idea why atheists feel that everyone else is out to "get" them, as far as being so defensive about religion in general, there's no need to be; granted I know there are many beliefs out there that will push themselves off on others, that just goes to show they have a closed mind. I feel that it's best to respect everyone regardless of belief, race, culture, or sexuality...imagine if everyone would do that...what a wonderful place this would be. I also feel that anyone who is closed minded about beliefs, cultures, races, and sexuality are the ones who aren't very bright. To be smart is to gather as much information that you can about all that you can; and beliefs/spirituality is/are one of the things that will never have answers to.
But I've a feeling that the reason that MOST atheists feel that everyone is out to "get" them (at least in the United States), is because of several things, but mainly this: **In 1956, during the peak of the US Cold War, McCarthy, was on a communism witch hunt the US government placed 'in God we trust' into the pledge, to differentiate between communism, which was thought to promote Atheism.
But come one people, Europe is laughing at us, along with other countries, we are no longer in the Cold War; and it's time that we stop being so closed minded! I honestly blame the US Education System...but that's a whole different thread wink
**Resource for my statement, as well as reading up on many different beliefs can be found here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/
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You Are Stupid...Unless you're an Atheist
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Thu May 03, 2007 8:19 pm
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roothands I LOL when I see Atheists acting exactly like Christians.
Advertising their beliefs and pushing them on others.
Condemning other who don't believe the way they do.
I guess these kinds of Atheists fail to see the irony in what they are doing. Oh well.
SOO true, I thought the point behind being Atheist, was to NOT push off anything on anyone else, because they don't like it when Christians do it to them....I must have missed something.
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$65M For a Pair of Pants?
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Thu May 03, 2007 7:26 pm
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I totally agree with you!! A judge using power to his benefit...imagine that LOL
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You Are Stupid...Unless you're an Atheist
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Thu May 03, 2007 7:23 pm
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Kimihiro_Watanuki So, I've been browsing the web and found videos, article, etc. on Charles Dawkins' book "The God Delusion" Frankly, my point here is that it doesn't just offend me, it really pisses me off. Richard Charles Dawkins deliberately puts down any deity based faith, and then uses what is seemingly out going, controversial literature, lectures, and speech to back it up with. And the sad thing is, I've seen his books become a sort a sort of "Atheist's Bible".
Allow me to draw one very important point form his book. Very early on, he calls faith and religion delusions. He says anyone who has delusions, is classified mentally ill. He later on makes the connection. All religious people are mentally ill. God, Allah, Vishnu, and Zeus are no more provable than a orbiting tea cup, or a unicorn.
Now, about the Atheist's Bible part. I frequently use and online chat messenger hybrid called PalTalk. It has voice and video capability, and a wide variety of rooms to search for. Of course, the most popular rooms are the religious ones. I try to stop by an atheist room when I get the chance to, just to listen in. (I'm not exactly Christian. I'm sort of a Deist, with Christian influence thrown in.) When I voice my opinion, it is immediately shot down. And not even in a decent manner. I get met with personal insults, sarcasm, bigotry, and vulgarity. It's like a pack of wolves jumping on a dead rabbit. They immediately regard anything as I say as the wrong opinion. And the worst part is they have a seething hatred for all Christians. Not just the fire and brimstone kind. They hate EVERY SINGLE ONE, and then try to use nothing but the Old Testament and history to back up their claims.
So...to discuss.
1. Does being an atheist make you smarter than anyone else?
2. Are deities and religion nothing but delusions and forms of crowd control?
3. Where did I mess up? Logical errors, etc.
4. Is faith just a crutch?
5. Are you ever skeptical that they might ever be evidence (scientific proof) of a deity?
Adding this to the OP becasue I want to know some opinions on the Bible. Questions include:
Fact or Ficiton and why?
Faith or Delusion and why?
Penn and Teller: The Bible is Bullshit
To answer some of your questions, on what I think and how I feel and believe.
1. Does being an atheist make you smarter than anyone else? No, my opinion is this, anyone who has a closed mind to anything are the ones who are stupid. If you feel the need to only feel that you are right and everyone else is wrong, then that makes you stupid. There are no such things as stupid questions, and no such things as stupid answers, or opinions. Our world is vast, with MANY MANY mysteries, from actual animals, to diseases, to the paranormal. NO ONE has a one true answer for any of the questions about spirituality, so, in my way of thinking no one is either wrong nor right...why? Because we just don't know....and that's what makes us humans great, because there are so many questions out there to be answered, and some of them are great to think upon and ponder on, but no one will ever really know the truth. That's why we LEARN, and it HOW we learn. Not all Atheists are closed minded, just like not all Christians are closed minded, and you will find that once you become open-minded that you can see from another persons perspective.
2. Are deities and religion nothing but delusions and forms of crowd control? No, I feel that the greatest delusion is to not have faith in anything at all. Then why live? We're human, we have to have faith in something. Whether it be to have faith that financial situation will look up, or a child is going to make something of themselves, to have have faith means that you give up completely and there's no reason to live after that. Atheists may say they don't have faith in anything, but they do, it may not be a belief or deity, but they do have faith in something or someone; just like the rest of us.
3. Where did I mess up? Logical errors, etc. If you messed up, and have logical errors...so do MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who have a belief. So, that would mean that there are MANY more people who are mentally ill out there, and we all should be locked up, and getting 3 free meals a day, and watching TV....and letting all the hard core Atheists paying for it. Seriously? that's pretty closed minded thinking.
4. Is faith just a crutch? NO, faith is believing in something or a deity, the only time it becomes a crutch is when someone wants to use it as a crutch...and believe me there are A LOT of people out there who do that, and I do find that wrong!
5. Are you ever skeptical that they might ever be evidence (scientific proof) of a deity? Nope, should they ever find pure scientific proof/evidence, then there's no way around that there is a deity of some kind now is there?
Now for yoru other 2 questions about the Bible
Fact or Ficiton and why? There has been Historical Proof of things that the Bible has said that has existed, and has happened. Therefore, we'd be pretty darn closed minded if we were to think that the Bible is fiction. I'm not saying that ALL of is is true, and I feel that the Bible is a great moral guide, and if more people would follow it, we'd have a VERY peaceful world (especially the part about loving thy neighbor, if we did that then we wouldn't be in constant turmoil, and if you love your neighbor as yourself, you're not going to do anything to that person that you wouldn't do to yourself).
Faith or Delusion and why? Faith, because without it I'd have no reason to live. I have faith that my husband loves me, I have faith that our financial situation is going to get better, I have faith that I'm going to wake up tomorrow and it's going to be a good day (granted all those things may crumble, but I have faith that they won't)...and without faith, there's not point in living. Notice I didn't say that I had faith that a deity is going to make it happen I said I had faith that it was going to happen wink
Now I will state my opinion in beliefs in general:
For the past few months I have been on my own spiritual journey, finding things out on my own. I have been studying Wicca and Buddhism, and I'm raised Christian; and through studying these beliefs, I have found that they tend to point in the same direction; how odd is that?
I feel also like this, regardless of what a person's belief is, I will ALWAYS respect them, whether they are Christian, Buddhist, Wiccan, Atheist, or any other belief, they deserve respect! NO ONE, I don't care how you believe, should put ANYONE down for their belief, but respect it and learn from it. Same goes for culture, race, and sexuality.
This is my opinion, I hope I didn't offend anyone...but at the sametime, I hope that everyone will have an open-mind when crossing each other's paths, and remember no one is right nor wrong, there are only questions with no answers.
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$65M For a Pair of Pants?
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Thu May 03, 2007 6:55 pm
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That's exactly what I thought when I first read this story!! He's a judge so he's going to be a thorn in their side, just because he's got a little power. Honestly, I hope that someone with higher power will realize that a judge like that has no business being a judge. I for one wouldn't want to see that judge for anything!
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$65M For a Pair of Pants?
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Thu May 03, 2007 6:34 pm
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As quoted from: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070503/ap_on_fe_st/65_million_dollar_pants
Quote: Judge sues cleaner for $65M over pants
By LUBNA TAKRURI, Associated Press WriterThu May 3, 6:55 AM ET
The Chungs, immigrants from South Korea, realized their American dream when they opened their dry-cleaning business seven years ago in the nation's capital. For the past two years, however, they've been dealing with the nightmare of litigation: a $65 million lawsuit over a pair of missing pants.
Jin Nam Chung, Ki Chung and their son, Soo Chung, are so disheartened that they're considering moving back to Seoul, said their attorney, Chris Manning, who spoke on their behalf.
"They're out a lot of money, but more importantly, incredibly disenchanted with the system," Manning said. "This has destroyed their lives."
The lawsuit was filed by a District of Columbia administrative hearings judge, Roy Pearson, who has been representing himself in the case.
Pearson did not return phone calls and e-mails Wednesday from The Associated Press requesting comment.
According to court documents, the problem began in May 2005 when Pearson became a judge and brought several suits for alteration to Custom Cleaners in Northeast Washington, a place he patronized regularly despite previous disagreements with the Chungs. A pair of pants from one suit was not ready when he requested it two days later, and was deemed to be missing.
Pearson asked the cleaners for the full price of the suit: more than $1,000.
But a week later, the Chungs said the pants had been found and refused to pay. That's when Pearson decided to sue.
Manning said the cleaners made three settlement offers to Pearson. First they offered $3,000, then $4,600, then $12,000. But Pearson wasn't satisfied and expanded his calculations beyond one pair of pants.
Because Pearson no longer wanted to use his neighborhood dry cleaner, part of his lawsuit calls for $15,000 — the price to rent a car every weekend for 10 years to go to another business.
"He's somehow purporting that he has a constitutional right to a dry cleaner within four blocks of his apartment," Manning said.
But the bulk of the $65 million comes from Pearson's strict interpretation of D.C.'s consumer protection law, which fines violators $1,500 per violation, per day. According to court papers, Pearson added up 12 violations over 1,200 days, and then multiplied that by three defendants.
Much of Pearson's case rests on two signs that Custom Cleaners once had on its walls: "Satisfaction Guaranteed" and "Same Day Service."
Based on Pearson's dissatisfaction and the delay in getting back the pants, he claims the signs amount to fraud.
Pearson has appointed himself to represent all customers affected by such signs, though D.C. Superior Court Judge Neal Kravitz, who will hear the June 11 trial, has said that this is a case about one plaintiff, and one pair of pants.
Sherman Joyce, president of the American Tort Association, has written a letter to the group of men who will decide this week whether to renew Pearson's 10-year appointment. Joyce is asking them to reconsider.
Chief Administrative Judge Tyrone Butler had no comment regarding Pearson's reappointment.
The association, which tries to police the kind of abusive lawsuits that hurt small businesses, also has offered to buy Pearson the suit of his choice.
And former National Labors Relations Board chief administrative law judge Melvin Welles wrote to The Washington Post to urge "any bar to which Mr. Pearson belongs to immediately disbar him and the District to remove him from his position as an administrative law judge."
"There has been a significant groundswell of support for the Chungs," said Manning, adding that plans for a defense fund Web site are in the works.
To the Chungs and their attorney, one of the most frustrating aspects of the case is their claim that Pearson's gray pants were found a week after Pearson dropped them off in 2005. They've been hanging in Manning's office for more than a year.
Pearson claims in court documents that his pants had blue and red pinstripes.
"They match his inseam measurements. The ticket on the pants match his receipt," Manning said.
Okay, yeah I find that this judge who wants to sue the dry cleaners, is just a bit off his rocker. Apparently he feels that no one is allowed to misplace things or make mistakes. I'll be honest, he's ONE of the MANY people that had me HATING to work for customer service!!! I mean, it's bad enough that everything has to be so-so, but to deal with some customers who can be right down rude, and like this guy in the above news story - right down difficult...you just can't please them at all!! Anyone who's worked with customer service knows where I'm coming from....honestly I think EVERYONE should work with customers at least once or twice in their life, just so they know what it's like....sometimes the customer isn't always right!
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Hello Everyone!! Newbie Here
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Tue May 01, 2007 12:18 am
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Thank You to those for the warm welcomes, really appreciate it wink
Um, and for those who thought the intro was too long...sorry, but considering I read the rules (heaven forbid), I did what they said. As for my av, sorry you don't like that either...but I'm NEW...therefore I don't have much money, and still learning this site. Didn't realize that there were people who just knew how this whole site worked and were never new themselves.
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Hello Everyone!! Newbie Here
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:15 pm
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Thank You all for such warm welcomes and awesome help!! I've already added a few of you as friends, and if anyone wants feel free to add me biggrin
I'm glad you like my user name, Shiawase Saiko wink
And, TessaKR, I think I'm right about the "u" but I could be wrong, I didn't get the book to look it up LOL, shame on me LOL
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