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Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:16 pm
Sleeping Dragon of Shu
dramallama OK! To sum up what I missed! dramallama

Ranmaru and Mitsuhide were apparently like that in real life with each other, since it was allowed of the man who was entrusted to "teach the boy to be a man" and his highest ranking generals. You gotta think, Ranmaru's father was one of Nobunaga's top officers and friends with Mitsuhide, if I remember correctly.


True! Back then, it wasn't as stigmatized as it is today. Sometimes guys boinked other guys (particularly in samurai apprentice relationships) - as long as they got married to a woman and continued the family line, they were doing their filial duty.

Gotta say, the people who fuss over Zhang He being fruityfruity gaygay always make me giggle a little - who cares? It's one char, if you don't like it, don't play him! *personally thinks his design is interesting!*
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:07 am
Sima Zhongda
...Dammit. I finally have an appropriately cutting remark for him, and what does Liang do? He goes the ******** to bed. I guess I'll have to repost it in the morning.


Hey, better than death by overwork, amirite?

Also, I loved Orochi - it actually made me hunt down Creation of the Gods (Houshin Engi) to read more about Daji's character. She's probably one of the most awesome villainesses ever, no lie.

And Zhuge Liang being with Orochi for most of the game was the best part of the Shu story - otherwise, you just get to watch Sanada and Zhao Yun JUSTICE at each other. sad

And as far as favorite SW chars goes, I can't be the only one who loves Mitsunari, can I? D:
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:08 am
Zhuge: I need popcorn when watching you guys. o/

Also, personally, I was a little weirded out by Ling Tong trading in the chucks for a halberd, but when I played him, I found I liked it just the same - he swings the damn thing over his head!
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:03 am
*munching popcorn!*

And yeah - they stop selling booze at midnight, so you should hurry!
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:25 am
It's no problem, Zhuge - I mean, hell, look how entertaining you guys are! rofl
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:45 am
Sleeping Dragon of Shu
Yes, and did you notice the comment I left in response to that, oh dear "hen" of mine?


I lol'd.

No one is a pretty princess like Zhongda.
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:08 pm
Futaku
Sleeping Dragon of Shu
@Chibi: eek Lu Xun's straight?!? I honestly thought he was gay....:O.o:

Yeah...I thought he was with kongming *looks at Kotetsu Sangokushi* smile


BADUM CHING! O-Oh man, I love me some KouSan. It's so whacked out. Tiny!Ling Tong is so cute and YELLY.

Also, I think it goes without saying that in that particular time and place, attitudes toward sexuality were a LOT different. It wasn't uncommon for men to share their beds with each other (like the scene in RoTK where Zhou Yu pretends to be passed out drunk to get Jiang Gan to steal fake letters from him) - and actually, this was something Lu Xun did as well, to get his men to trust him more before Yi Ling.
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:23 am
ChibiGingi
another young female character (Lu Xun's wife even).


Xiaojie! DO WANT! ;o;

Also, Zhuge, that's sum awesome cosplay!
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:04 am
Futaku
brokenwhiteabyss
*Shrugs*

Does anyone know why they took any characters out?

(This can only be assumed since I don't work for them domokun heart )

They took out Pang De because he had no fanbase (or I'll say the smallest group of fans out of everyone in DW5). Xing Cai & Zuo Ci is because they were extremely unimportant in history? I mean, extremely? They probably felt that they could sacrifice them since they're newer and have small fanbases too, so they decided they aren't worth the redesigning. Why take out just Da Qiao and leave XQ? They felt that they didn't need to make both return, you can get their fanpwrzzzz thru only one. That's a given, but why XQ and not DQ? Sun Ce already has relations with the female SSX. So Zhou Yu get XQ rather than Sun Ce getting DQ. And the Qiaos having to do with Zhou Yu setting up Chi Bi could be another reason for XQ over Da Qiao. They also likely just didn't feel like redesigning DQ's personality if personality was the problem. Meng Huo and Zhu Rong...what else is there to say that hasn't already been said? They're in their own little group that isn't necessary to the main kingdoms' competition. I guess they figured that Shu's victories over the Nanman weren't as significant as their other victories shown in the game. And I could be wrong on this but the Nanman didn't really alter any of the 3 kingdoms' relations with each other, so, it could be sacrificed. Meng Huo and wife are omittable (if that's a word) without any MAJOR plot holes (they prolly just don't mention how Shu gets those areas or if they even do). As for Jiang Wei, that would be the toughest call for me. My only possible assumption is that he wasn't popular enough, that all the people who are bishy fans prefer Zhao Yun, Zhang He, Cao Pi, Zhou Yu, etc & that all the people who are strategist fans prefer Zhuge Liang, Sima Yi, etc & that all the people who are pupil fans prefer Lu Xun, Lu Meng, etc & that whatever other category Jiang Wei could possibly fit in, EVERYONE else was more popular at. That Jiang Wei was always at the bottom. So, they had another excuse just to make the game take less time to make or work on fixing other things by omitting him for being the least of the least.

Why in general get rid of anybody ever? To either leave fans waiting for an expansion that they include them in, or because they simply were a waste with little popularity/need, so no work on them would be needed.


I also think that the game, like RoTK, was geared mainly around the life of Liu Bei - basically, all the important stuff happens between the Yellow Turban Rebellion and the battle of Yiling. Jiang Wei only joined up with Shu close to ten years after Liu Bei's death, and the Nanman campaign was in the space in between then - so I can see them getting rid of Jiang Wei, Meng Huo, and Zhu Rong.

I've also noticed that they didn't really seem very intent on having Zhuge Liang die, as he did in DW5. At the end of his game, you only see him convalescing - if he doesn't die, there's no need to put Jiang Wei in the game, since that's where his main role comes from.
Orochi, Dynasty & Samurai Warriors thread! Go to post 4388 Gaming Discussion Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:43 am
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