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The Evils of Psychiatry and Psychology must be STOPPED Go to post 208 Extended Discussion Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:26 am
Indigo_Bunting
I've been laughing for 6 pages now!

Troll? Fool? Most entertaining, either way.

So now we Scientologists are now only trolls or fools? That's blatant persecution.
Anonymous are Terrorists and Bigots. Scientology FAQ <3 Go to post 614 Extended Discussion Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:24 am
John Calvin
Totally KSW
Excuse me, sweetie: PROVE IT rather than just naming it.


Here's the part where you commit another logical fallacy. You say that it was psychiatry that "led the German masses to get brainwashed." Telling me to prove something, when clearly, you made a claim, is called "shifting the burden of proof." Stop commiting logical fallacies.

I'm not committing fallacies. How about you stop? Maybe you should get your information from the Church of Scientology rather than the internet.
The Evils of Psychiatry and Psychology must be STOPPED Go to post 208 Extended Discussion Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:23 am
Dr Raymond Stantz
Totally KSW
Whom
So somebody who switches professions a lot is incapable of lying? I'm not sure I follow your logic.

Especially since L. Ron Hubbard is on record as saying, "You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."
- source

Excuse me, but your wikipedia article could be edited by just anyone.
But hasn't been:

Quote:
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# (cur) (last) 12:22, 25 January 2008 220.240.18.232 (Talk) (37,020 bytes) (→Sourced) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:07, 24 January 2008 71.0.246.217 (Talk) (37,014 bytes) (Linked Benzedrine) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 22:28, 23 January 2008 Kalki (Talk | contribs) m (36,997 bytes) (→Sourced) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 21:39, 23 January 2008 Kalki (Talk | contribs) m (36,991 bytes) (→Quotes about Hubbard) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 21:24, 23 January 2008 Kalki (Talk | contribs) (36,994 bytes) (→Science of Survival (1951): correction, WP link) (undo)
# (cur) (last) 21:22, 23 January 2008 Kalki (Talk | contribs) m (36,968 bytes) (→Sourced) (undo)


And the quote was sourced:

Quote:
Response to a question from the audience during a meeting of the Eastern Science Fiction Association on (7 November 1948), as quoted in a 1994 affidavit by Sam Moskowitz.

Its ultimately anecdotal evidence. Its hearsay.
The Evils of Psychiatry and Psychology must be STOPPED Go to post 208 Extended Discussion Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:22 am
Sven Svenson
Totally KSW
His son was gay. No wonder he did that -.-;

Homosexuals are usually incapable of using Hubbard's tech.


Unbiased citation needed.

I'm not allowed to provide any more information beyond that. The rest is not allowed to be posted due to a copyright by the Church of Scientology.
Anonymous are Terrorists and Bigots. Scientology FAQ <3 Go to post 614 Extended Discussion Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:19 am
John Calvin
Totally KSW
Umm...its only common sense that they have. That's what led the German masses to get brainwashed, through psychiatric means.


Let's say for a moment that it was the Nazis who invented psychiatry. Your argument is fallacious. It commits reductio ad Hitlerum, genetic fallacy, and guilt by association. Three fallacies in one? That's amazing.

Excuse me, sweetie: PROVE IT rather than just naming it.
Anonymous are Terrorists and Bigots. Scientology FAQ <3 Go to post 614 Extended Discussion Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:13 am
Scraps 2-point-0
Are you kidding me? There was another Scientology thread almost exactly like this just today, only a few hours ago. Just that one provided more information. For future reference, DON'T make useless repeat threads, okie day?

Oh I'm sorry, I wasn't aware.
The Evils of Psychiatry and Psychology must be STOPPED Go to post 208 Extended Discussion Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:11 am
tarawriter
Totally KSW
Captain Verd
Totally KSW
Captain Verd
I love trolls.

Look, I am not trolling.
Then I don't know what the f**k is wrong with you.

Nothing is wrong with me. I mean it has been scientifically proven that Scientology makes you saner. I don't know why you are arguing otherwise.


Riiiiiight, because Scientology was so great for old L. Ron's son, Quentin Hubbard, that the poor kid killed himself to get away from the insanity that was dear old dad and his crazy money making scheme. rolleyes

If you're being honest about this, I feel sorry for you. If you're a troll, then you find a new way to get some attention for yourself.

His son was gay. No wonder he did that -.-;

Homosexuals are usually incapable of using Hubbard's tech.
The Evils of Psychiatry and Psychology must be STOPPED Go to post 208 Extended Discussion Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:08 am
Whom
Totally KSW
Whom
Totally KSW
I used to love that show until that very episode. But I didn't get pneumonia after watching it so clearly the material within the show was not beyond OTIII and filled with lies.

Or, you know, telling people that they can't handle the mythology until they've paid enough money to reach OTIII is a lie made up to secure Scientology's financial interests.

One of the two.

I'm pretty sure that my claims are the correct claims. If you read up on L Ron Hubbard you would realize that he knew his stuff. Especially if the following were all his professions:

Fiction writer
Screenwriter
Poet
Lyricist
Essayist
Educator
Drug Rehabilitator
Criminal Reformist
Administrator
Philosopher
Aartist
Filmmaker
Photographer
Composer
Balladeer
Arranger
Choreographer
Adventurer
Explorer
Aviator
Archaeologist
Mineralogist
Sea Captain
Yachtsman & Navigator
Horticulturalist
Source

So somebody who switches professions a lot is incapable of lying? I'm not sure I follow your logic.

Especially since L. Ron Hubbard is on record as saying, "You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."
- source

Excuse me, but your wikipedia article could be edited by just anyone.
The Evils of Psychiatry and Psychology must be STOPPED Go to post 208 Extended Discussion Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:56 pm
Whom
Totally KSW
I used to love that show until that very episode. But I didn't get pneumonia after watching it so clearly the material within the show was not beyond OTIII and filled with lies.

Or, you know, telling people that they can't handle the mythology until they've paid enough money to reach OTIII is a lie made up to secure Scientology's financial interests.

One of the two.

I'm pretty sure that my claims are the correct claims. If you read up on L Ron Hubbard you would realize that he knew his stuff. Especially if the following were all his professions:

Fiction writer
Screenwriter
Poet
Lyricist
Essayist
Educator
Drug Rehabilitator
Criminal Reformist
Administrator
Philosopher
Aartist
Filmmaker
Photographer
Composer
Balladeer
Arranger
Choreographer
Adventurer
Explorer
Aviator
Archaeologist
Mineralogist
Sea Captain
Yachtsman & Navigator
Horticulturalist
Source
The Evils of Psychiatry and Psychology must be STOPPED Go to post 208 Extended Discussion Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:51 pm
Deanta in Eireann
Totally KSW
Z3Ncat
Totally KSW
Z3Ncat

Please to be backing this claim with non-biased, scientific studies. I can prove that antidepressants help those with depression. I can prove that lithium helps those who are bipolar. I can prove that antipsychotics help those with schizophrenia. I have yet to see a study that proves that scientology can alter neurochemistry and 'make you saner'.

Look

You have GOT to be kidding me if you think an article - NOT A SCIENTIFIC STUDY - from a COLLEGE NEWSPAPER is the equivalent of an FDA-approved, empiric, non-biased, scientific study.
I restate: Prove that scientology has the equivalent effectiveness of medications that affect brain and body chemistry.

Um, excuse me, but prove that it isn't.

It has certainly made me and Penny much more saner.


Obviously scientology isn't big on grammar.

AND WHO THE f**k IS PENNY???

Penny is penopticon -.-;
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