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Updated: Dance-only for prizes isn't fair. Go to post 290 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:54 am
Just a little word of caution: those of you who came to this thread just to troll and be cruel are being reported.

I honestly don't have the patience to put up with it, and I don't want this degrading into a flamewar.
The Prom event is discriminating Go to post 231 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:39 am
MoxRavager34
Gaia will not cater to your needs just because you can't do something.

You are acting like you are crippled when you are calling yourself handicapped.

You have to win the item. You are incappable of winning the item. You do not get the item.




Take this as a life lesson. The world isn't fair. You don't get what you want all the time.


Same thing applies to business too.

A business that alienates their paying customers is not going to get the money they want.
Updated: Dance-only for prizes isn't fair. Go to post 290 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:36 am
Knerd
Airmaid

Well, if you want the items so bad, you can always buy them in the mp in a couple days when they'll be cheap.

And I don't know what high-class McDonalds you've been to, but I don't recall a tic-tac-toe or other wall games. And I definitely don't remember different equipment for different age levels. And hey, you could always get a friend to do it for you (what I did), or use a friend's computer, depending on your issue.

And if you want to enjoy prom, you could also do what it's intended for: SOCIALIZING.


Again - Why should certain people be punished by being forced to buy the items when others can get them for free? Why should I have to spend gold for a problem that I couldn't prevent? Why aren't there any alternative ways for me to get the items for free?

If I got someone else to get the items for me, then I wouldn't be earning them myself, would I? This is the same problem as buying them on the market - It completely ignores the problem at hand.

And I can socialize as much as I want on these message boards. If that was the entire point of the prom, why would Gaia ever hold events? We have everything we "need" right here!


I honestly don't understand why you are being so hot-headed about this. You are obviously in a privileged position that allows you to earn the items easily. Is it really that hard to accept that some of us are not so lucky? There are problems with this event that need to be dealt with. It isn't right for Gaia to exclude such a large part of their userbase.


Apparently, they don't care that they're excluding so many people. I only know of one way to handle something like that.

When telling someone about life doesn't work, sometimes you have to just let life teach them what you couldn't. They don't want to listen? They'll get their rewards for that in the fact that people won't participate.

If they are maybe not smart enough to figure it out, they'll think that nobody is interested in events, and then there won't be any. It won't be worth it to continue having them if nobody cares (because they don't care).

The site will be that much more boring, and they'll have to do even more at the same level of intellect and business sense to try to get people to spend money here...but of course if someone doesn't have any business sense, they're never going to do what will actually work well.

Nature is far more cruel than I would ever be. I try to at least talk about things that look like they might lead to trouble...but nature strikes without warning, and in the end, everyone gets exactly what's coming based on their own potential plus their environment.

This is a hard fact that all of us disabled people have come to terms with, and learned very well. None of us would be where we are if we hadn't understood that regardless of whatever problems any of us has, we have to use the good things we have to get anywhere, because nobody's going to give us anything we don't not only earn, but fight for.

So...if they're business impaired then they'll have to maybe learn things the hard way.
The Prom event is discriminating Go to post 231 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:19 am
Lady Psycho Sexy
No, if you couldn't play, as in, were completely locked out of the prom, because of where you lived or something else you couldn't change (anyone remember the Tsubasa items, for example?), that would be discrimination. Right now it's just too bad for you.


Yeah well, I just found out that this subject has been brought up before. So the problem is that Gaia doesn't care, and that's not going to change anytime soon.

So the only way to really handle something like that is to care just as much as they do.
Updated: Dance-only for prizes isn't fair. Go to post 290 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:16 am
Prismatic Beat
Oya_Storm
Captain Seto Kaiba
Oya_Storm


Okay, so you'd be okay with it if they wrote an entire event in code that you'd have to have a high IQ or knack for cryptography to crack in the first place then?


I think that'd be interesting, actually. Something like Neopets and their Lenny Conundrum, even if one doesn't necessarily need a high IQ to solve it.


If there were puzzles, at least those of us high on brains and low on coordination would have a snowball's chance in hell of earning items.

I'm not sure if the devs or admins really care much about this issue (probably not), but I think it was worth it to at least speak up. If they didn't know they had disabled users before, they know now (though I don't see how anybody even gets through learning HTML without dealing with accessibility issues). Maybe next time they'll do better.


Oh they knew. This is the same as prom game last year, but they did not listen again.


Wow...I didn't know that. The threads I browsed on the subject were mostly about people's connection speed, Flash, and Java issues. I didn't know the subject of accessibility came up, but then I didn't have alot of time for browsing the forums back then either.

So...the problem is that they just don't give a crap. Fair enough. I know how to handle that. wink
The Prom event is discriminating Go to post 231 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:11 am
supersharingan15
Has every1 over looked the sim event.
if u really want something to do then there u go.


Browsing the Sims page is not going to bring hits to the Promageddon pages.

HTH.
The Prom event is discriminating Go to post 231 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:10 am
K u r i i x
Yona_Babe
K u r i i x

oh yes i am lucky that whenever a plane flies over i fall to the ground and start shaking,
i am lucky that whenever i go into a night club where they have flashing lights i start to shake like an idiot scaring people around me with my seizures and i am obviously LUCKY that i have hit my head many many times and even falling down the stairs when having an epileptic attack.
oh and epileptic attacks don;t consist of ''going to bed and hope it passes by''
heck i'm not even concious when it happens,


Hey, I just said you can consider yourself lucky, because you said, that this game doesn't have an effect on you. All that you mentioned above, how should I know about it, if you don't say it in the first place.

I for myself said a few posts before that, that I can consider myself lucky, that I don't act with cramps, just with really bad sickness and so on and my doctor said, I'm slightly epileptic. So what's your problem?


you could have known because all that i mentioned is what most forms of epilepsy are about,
but i don't mention it in an opening line like you do
''hello my name is .... and i am epileptic''
you're acting as if you expect a special kind of threatment wherever you go because of it.


She's mentioning it because her disability is relevant to the topic. If you don't want to hear about anybody's disability, you should probably avoid topics about disability.
The Prom event is discriminating Go to post 231 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:08 am
LunaRoxas
Oya_Storm
LunaRoxas
Oya_Storm
LunaRoxas



.. If you were authistic.. you wouldnt be sitting behind a computer. realy.


Why do so many people assume that everybody who's disabled in some way is stupid?


if you would actualy read what I write, you would see I didnt say all disabled people are stupid.


You obviously think autistic people are all too stupid to use a computer.


I believe that you're the only one calling them stupid at the moment.
I just know people who have this disablilty, and I dont think they are stupid at all an yes there is some diffrence but I have never seen one of them debate like this girl does who claims she's authistic.


My daughter's hearing impaired, and yet sings on key.

Your point is?

Your limited experience is not the same thing as a fact.
Updated: Dance-only for prizes isn't fair. Go to post 290 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:06 am
Captain Seto Kaiba
Oya_Storm


Okay, so you'd be okay with it if they wrote an entire event in code that you'd have to have a high IQ or knack for cryptography to crack in the first place then?


I think that'd be interesting, actually. Something like Neopets and their Lenny Conundrum, even if one doesn't necessarily need a high IQ to solve it.


If there were puzzles, at least those of us high on brains and low on coordination would have a snowball's chance in hell of earning items.

I'm not sure if the devs or admins really care much about this issue (probably not), but I think it was worth it to at least speak up. If they didn't know they had disabled users before, they know now (though I don't see how anybody even gets through learning HTML without dealing with accessibility issues). Maybe next time they'll do better.
The Prom event is discriminating Go to post 231 Site Feedback Fri May 29, 2009 3:01 am
LunaRoxas
K u r i i x
Yona_Babe
LunaRoxas

.. If you were authistic.. you wouldnt be sitting behind a computer. realy.


Read something about the subject, then talk. I guess you even don't know that there are different forms with different stages of authisticism.

There are even guilds of authistic people here on Gaia, so you say they all wouldn't be sitting behind a computer? Right... rolleyes

K u r i i x


AND i am german/dutch

what you're saying is complete bullsh*t o.o;;


I explained, what I meant in another thread. We use the word as a kind of showing how you feel, when you feel left out, are sad or angry about something. If you're german you should know the meaning of "Das ist echt diskriminierend".

BTW. If you're an epileptic and have no problem with that game, then you can consider yourself lucky.


oh yes i am lucky that whenever a plane flies over i fall to the ground and start shaking,
i am lucky that whenever i go into a night club where they have flashing lights i start to shake like an idiot scaring people around me with my seizures and i am obviously LUCKY that i have hit my head many many times and even falling down the stairs when having an epileptic attack.
oh and epileptic attacks don;t consist of ''going to bed and hope it passes by''
heck i'm not even concious when it happens,
but either way i am obviously lucky because i can still play an online game ;DDDD

if you are truely disabled you'd know there are much worse things in life than not being able to play a game online.


agreed.


Certainly, there are worse things, but those aren't relevant in Site Feedback in Gaia. What's relevant here is that the game is simply not even reasonably accessible, and there are no more accessible alternatives that offer an equal level of participation.

So...people are just opting out.

That's all we're saying here. We were shut out, so we're disappointed.

It's bad enough that we weren't given any kind of alternative. You have to thought police us for not being thrilled about it?

Who died and made you gods that you should presume the right to tell us how we're supposed to feel?
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