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I'm sort of figuring out whether you're stupid, or ignorant.

I'm not discussing what is right and proper for a woman. The only one doing that is Ivan, and we're all sorta ignoring him there. Quite honestly, if you're a woman and you're not dominant or submissive, congratulations. Nobody said you had to be either. You can be, despite what this thread may seem, completely normal.

I would like to point out, however, that people CAN be born submissive, and can be born dominant. I've got a submissive personality. Although I can argue, at times, I'm viewed as a flamboyant follower, or boyfriend, to my best friend Micaela. I am a bit of a follower. I follow her around, and I do things she asks me to. But at any rate, the point isn't how great women can be. Women can be fine, and they can be dominant.

Although I do greatly take exception to the implication that men are obsolete. We still like to think we serve some purpose. You may not need us for reproduction, but as people we can be good people.

Pain can be erotic. It can be pleasurable, and you are completely closed-minded if you do not believe so.

There is no way to know if woman or man came first, although in most cases it's man.

But, lewdness aside, I do have to demand an answer to the question of what your obsession is with proving that women can be powerful. The only ones who deny that are Ivan and Tautua. So stop embarassing yourself, please.

You sniveling little bag of bones. I had every intention of ordering gillian to apologize for her rudeness and for the insult she made, but I think it will stand as is because your existence -is- pitiable. I have tried to remain calm, but calmness is not possible with such an ignorant, arrogant, sniveling, uneducated, illogical piece of gutter tripe as you. Throughout this entire thread you have done nothing but insult, belittle, and degrade anyone who dares to challenge your sick, twisted views. You aren't worthy of the title of man, you're lower than an animal and you have placed yourself there through your hatred of women. It's more than pitiable that you allowed your inability to keep your wife happy to turn you against all women so that you have to twist them into some mold in your mind in order to make yourself better than you really are.

I challenge you, Ivan, to prove even one iota of what you have claimed in this thread. No more of your made up words, like 'phariseeized', no more dodging the request with twisted bible quotes or pieces taken from the Gor books. I want verifiable proof, from a credible source, proving ANYTHING you have claimed in here.

Nothing you spout off is even remotely logical. I also challenge you to actually discuss the topic at hand, the Gorean lifestyle, without using a single quote from one of the books. I challenge you to answer a single request without insulting anyone. Can you do it? If you are indeed older than I am, as I am 35 and, if you WERE with your wife for 25 years you would have to be in your 40's, I challenge you to act like the adult you are and stop acting like a child who cannot handle being asked for proof so he has to insult everyone around him.

Can you do that? If not, I can assure you, from this point forward, if I see a post from you that is even remotely insulting, or spamming, I will be reporting it, as will gillian.