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Post: 41476867_31 created on Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:22 pmPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:22 pm
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"Kaz-Balan"
"Vryko Lakas"
Does this energetic bath have the same properties as aether?

Ah! A spark of interest and curiosity ?
Aether was considered as a background support for everything, including light, especially.
Trouble is this aether concept was envisioned as material ( because considering everything...
...could in fact be expressed as energy was not in the air, yet ).
Naturally, considering most experiments with light, the hypothesis of a material aether
miserably failed at the time and later on.

"Vryko Lakas"
If so, we've already reach the null hypothesis for it more than a hundred and twenty years ago.

Awww... I was just too enthusiast.

Now, leaving sarcasm behind, just try and consider all energies around,
and how difficult is is both to quantify them all and to stop them
( heard of how neutrinos cross our little planet...
...almost without interferring with matter, and what it takes to trap and detect SOME ?! ).
The sum of all those crossing energies would, in itself, be a bath of energy.
Maybe it's enough, but considering some "dark energy" expression,
and some experiments having particles coming "out of nowhere"... I guess not.

Most real scientific minds may guess most inferences behind this.


I'll sum it all up by :
The aether hypothesis is NOT dead.


Stop saying things that are wrong.
 
     
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Post: 41476867_33 created on Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:56 pmPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:56 pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation I believe you'll find the necessary explanations and formula here.
     
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I mean, here in M&R we have kind of a schizophrenia on the subject. We either have 'My faith tells me homos r bad' or we have Eteponge.
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Post: 41476867_35 created on Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:52 pmPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:52 pm
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"Morberticus"
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Stop saying things that are wrong.


Sure!

Now, in spite of the way my posts have been welcomed all along...
...I still have enough curiosity towards the occasional scientific minds in here to ask :
. What's "wrong" in expressing some hypothesis that I guess would avoid using such interpretations...
...as "time dilates" to explain most relativist effects ?


But you've misunderstand relativity, taken a personal dislike to it, and tendered ambiguous ideas as some sort of replacement.

For example, scientists didn't simply say "time dilates" to explain most relativistic effects. Instead, scientists considered the consequences of galilean relativity and electromagnetism, and postulated a 4 dimensional metric for spacetime. The resultant vector calculus perfectly described a wide range of phenomena ranging from time dilation to length contraction to light aberration etc. This vector calculus was then developed into tensor calculus, as the behaviour of tensors under transformations makes them ideally suited to formulating physical laws. These tensors were developed even further into spinors, which allowed us to formulate relativistic quantum mechanics.

Then Kaz-Balan came along, learned about relativity from the back of a cereal box, and decided to say random things like "Energy clouds" to try and sound respectable.

You can see why the internet is not taking you terribly seriously.

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IF time dilates, just HOW do the physical mechanics reconcile with this phenomenon,
when knowing speed and acceleration are some position measurements derived by TIME ?!


Lorentz transformations.
 
     
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Post: 41476867_36 created on Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:36 amPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:36 am
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Ok this might be random but, We are all made of atoms.The atoms move at a certain speed to keep us...in this demention.We certainly cannot move at the speed of light.If we ever did we would disappear or mabye show up in a differnt dimention.
     



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Post: 41476867_37 created on Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:46 amPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:46 am
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Lol uhm totally unrelated.. Where'd all the Kaz-Balan posts come from??


@Original Poster (I'm sorry, I forgot your name =/)
The simplest most simplest answer I can possibly give to you is difference in frame of reference. It could be varying due to passing through medians or space itself. But standard c will be viewed as such through space from any frame. If you're asking if through space, c can vary, I don't have a clue on that subject. Only think I can think of is that is it possible to surpass c, and I think one can but will not be view by others so.
 
     

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Post: 41476867_38 created on Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:16 amPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:16 am
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"Kimikolon"
Ok this might be random but, We are all made of atoms.


Yes, yes we are.

"Kimikolon"
The atoms move at a certain speed to keep us...in this demention.


... umm... what??? Atoms move because they have energy, there's a lower limit and an upper limit, it's not to keep us in this dimension, we've no evidence to indicate there is another dimension, it's just there's a lower limit on the amount of energy atoms can have (0) and there's an upper limit (not infinite) so atoms have to move in the range of no movement to the speed of light.

"Kimikolon"
We certainly cannot move at the speed of light.If we ever did we would disappear or mabye show up in a differnt dimention.


Correction, we would require an infinite amount of energy to accelerate anything with rest mass to the speed of light, so the upper limit is the speed of light, nothing can be accelerated to that point.
     
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