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What if you have a mecha that transforms into a tank? That way, when speed is required, it can go into tank mode, and drive around.
 
     

 
Dib with a mission
What if you have a mecha that transforms into a tank? That way, when speed is required, it can go into tank mode, and drive around.

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Mechas do have one potentially useful role, which is to intimidate people. They could be a great compliment to an occupation force.

Even Ewoks can overcome that!
 
     
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I mean, here in M&R we have kind of a schizophrenia on the subject. We either have 'My faith tells me homos r bad' or we have Eteponge.
 
Two legs, both of which are critical. Just not a good idea.
     
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Dib with a mission
What if you have a mecha that transforms into a tank? That way, when speed is required, it can go into tank mode, and drive around.
A standard mecha is impractical enough as it is, I don't want to fathom the number of things that could go wrong with a machine like that.
 
     
 
mechas are not yet a practical choice but power armor suits similar to warhammer or starcraft would be an asset in urban combat where you have to chase an insurgent into a building. the usual range of weaponry you have to defend against in this type of situation is 9mm, 45, 44, 5.56, and 7.62. you can take the current EOD armor setup and wrap it around a powered suit to create a decent armor. equiped with a smg of 44 caliber and a shotgun would make the soldier nearly impossible to take down in a close quarters environment. as for in the streets an m16 has the range to suppress most sniper situations. three man teams of these soldiers allows for the off chance where one is dissabled then one can retrieve the downed soldier and the third can suppress the hostiles.
     
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What if we go a different approach? Make the mecha with more tank-like principles. Legs have been shown to be more versitile than wheels. I mean if a tanks flips over it is useless, however if something will legs flip over it can pick itself back up.
 
     
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What if we go a different approach? Make the mecha with more tank-like principles. Legs have been shown to be more versitile than wheels. I mean if a tanks flips over it is useless, however if something will legs flip over it can pick itself back up.
Like a turtle? or a bug?
     

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What if we go a different approach? Make the mecha with more tank-like principles. Legs have been shown to be more versitile than wheels. I mean if a tanks flips over it is useless, however if something will legs flip over it can pick itself back up.
Like a turtle? or a bug?
Needs arms and full degree of rotation for at least the arms in order to get up.

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I liked the mecha designs in Junk Force (short manga and light novel series, it's out of print, I think). The models were all primarily tank-style designs which used several different standing positions and movement types.

One of the mechs (Little Bow) had its propulsion system integrated with the joints connecting the legs and arms to the main chassis. Another (Scorpion) used thrust from its engine to propel itself off the ground, it also had replaceable limbs. The heavier tank (Dreadnought) of the three main ones used by the heroines used treads exclusively for movement, and converted from standing mode and tank mode, the only difference being the posture of the treads and chassis (and arms) being moved higher.

Currently, Mechanized Propulsion Systems (http://www.mechaps.com/), a real group which is building a walking mech, is almost complete with their mech. They've explained that designing/making a mech is alot of work. Recently (AX2009) I heard about how they handle the movement system. It basically is a network of many, many small computers oriented like the nervous system in the body (like the bundles of neurons in arms). They act as a reactive response to outside environmental factors (wind, gravity, balance) and then adjust the movement as it goes (not unlike auto-correction in jet fighters). They've also discussed how the mechs may first be used: As power loaders, or industrial mechs, for every-day use such as rescuing survivors of a disaster or construction/utility work.

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Here are the designs for Junk Force: http://www.junkforce.com/mecha/index.html
 
     
 
Holy crap children, talk about dejavu. This is a topic that I've seen discussed on these boards over and over for years, with the same crappy evidence thrown out each time. Just go thread hunting for a bit and you'll come across dozens if not hundreds of other threads such as this.

But on the off chance an internet surfer is a bit lazy, heaven forbid it, here's what they all say.

Mechs are a cool idea beaten until the neighing stopped and the flies no longer call the corpse home. It's done by anyone who has ever seen Gundam, Robotech, Evangellion or Eureka Seven due to their attractiveness in said show, but fail to take into consideration the immense power, the ungodly weight, lack of decent mobility, and stopping power in comparison to other non-humanoid weapons. Their advantage of looking cool and blowing stuff up while being fairly mobile is actually a lie when one looks at the physics. Basically it becomes a huge target that looks cool, which is really really expensive.

Wonderful. I'm glad we cleared that up. Stop with these absolutely repititious threads.
     
NavidsonRecord
Holy crap children, talk about dejavu. This is a topic that I've seen discussed on these boards over and over for years, with the same crappy evidence thrown out each time. Just go thread hunting for a bit and you'll come across dozens if not hundreds of other threads such as this.

But on the off chance an internet surfer is a bit lazy, heaven forbid it, here's what they all say.

Mechs are a cool idea beaten until the neighing stopped and the flies no longer call the corpse home. It's done by anyone who has ever seen Gundam, Robotech, Evangellion or Eureka Seven due to their attractiveness in said show, but fail to take into consideration the immense power, the ungodly weight, lack of decent mobility, and stopping power in comparison to other non-humanoid weapons. Their advantage of looking cool and blowing stuff up while being fairly mobile is actually a lie when one looks at the physics. Basically it becomes a huge target that looks cool, which is really really expensive.

Wonderful. I'm glad we cleared that up. Stop with these absolutely repititious threads.
Nope. You're thinking of the stereotypical super mechs that rely on technological advances far beyond their time rather than realistic mecha and their designs.

WWI tanks were almost a near failure because they couldn't reliably cross trenches and needed bundles of sticks to be dropped into said trenches in order to cross. Their armour was also weak enough to lead to the design of the anti-tank gun that single soldiers could use (as the tank was made to cross barbed wire and take machine gun fire). They were also slow. Now they are an aspect of ground warfare in the modern age.
 
     
 
NavidsonRecord
Holy crap children, talk about dejavu. This is a topic that I've seen discussed on these boards over and over for years, with the same crappy evidence thrown out each time. Just go thread hunting for a bit and you'll come across dozens if not hundreds of other threads such as this.

But on the off chance an internet surfer is a bit lazy, heaven forbid it, here's what they all say.

Mechs are a cool idea beaten until the neighing stopped and the flies no longer call the corpse home. It's done by anyone who has ever seen Gundam, Robotech, Evangellion or Eureka Seven due to their attractiveness in said show, but fail to take into consideration the immense power, the ungodly weight, lack of decent mobility, and stopping power in comparison to other non-humanoid weapons. Their advantage of looking cool and blowing stuff up while being fairly mobile is actually a lie when one looks at the physics. Basically it becomes a huge target that looks cool, which is really really expensive.

Wonderful. I'm glad we cleared that up. Stop with these absolutely repititious threads.


I've looked, all of them I can find have been closed down.
     
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Mechs would of been practical if the Kings English Built them insted of the Tank

four legged kind anyway
 
     
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If the mecha was small, but armored in the front, they would only be useful in one situation: in doors combat. It would be the only armored unit to date capable of maneuvering in enclosed spaces. Tanks and jeeps can't go inside if it's needed. Of course, the mecha would still have several flaws. Such examples being hand held explosives (grenades) and tight passageways. Still, it may be the only option if you have an enemy who has fortified themselves in an inaccessible portion of a building and you need to get through a soldier bottle neck barricade, or any other form of in door combat scenario. One thing the mecha would need is foot soldiers as support. If it goes in by itself, it could be easily flanked and destroyed. By sending in one mecha per platoon, you would increase it's effectiveness ten-fold.
     
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If the mecha was small, but armored in the front, they would only be useful in one situation: in doors combat. It would be the only armored unit to date capable of maneuvering in enclosed spaces. Tanks and jeeps can't go inside if it's needed. Of course, the mecha would still have several flaws. Such examples being hand held explosives (grenades) and tight passageways. Still, it may be the only option if you have an enemy who has fortified themselves in an inaccessible portion of a building and you need to get through a soldier bottle neck barricade, or any other form of in door combat scenario. One thing the mecha would need is foot soldiers as support. If it goes in by itself, it could be easily flanked and destroyed. By sending in one mecha per platoon, you would increase it's effectiveness ten-fold.
Nah. Mechs need to be armoured all over for indoors combat. Even moreso as there isn't much room to manuever and dodge. And since the mech must be small enough to be used indoors, there would be only one operator. Even then, the mech would be less suited to indoors combat and more suited for urban combat. Power Armour (think Halo or Starship Troopers) is more suited for indoors combat.

Outdoors (both urban and non-urban), most of the armour would be devoted to protecting systems vital for the operation of the mech and safety of the operator(s). A lesser proportion of the armour would be dedicated to limbs and movement systems on a mech.

Mechs surprisingly share many of similarities with tanks. One of the major similarities is that both would have their movement systems easily compromised.
 
     
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