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Prophet

i always see on the news that some ivy league grad school is working on inventing teleportation but how is that physically possible to move matter from an occupied space to another point instantaneously? that defies the laws of physics right?
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i always see on the news that some ivy league grad school is working on inventing teleportation but how is that physically possible to move matter from an occupied space to another point instantaneously? that defies the laws of physics right?
Teleportation with light speed delay is possible, though probably infeasible for objects such as yourself or I, with current technology. We already teleport particles in the lab all the time, though.

Prophet

Vannak
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i always see on the news that some ivy league grad school is working on inventing teleportation but how is that physically possible to move matter from an occupied space to another point instantaneously? that defies the laws of physics right?
Teleportation with light speed delay is possible, though probably infeasible for objects such as yourself or I, with current technology. We already teleport particles in the lab all the time, though.
hmmm, interesting.

Fanatical Zealot

With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.

Shameless Mystic

There's two schools of thought behind teleportation. There's the decon/recon method, where you deconstruct an object, send either the matter or info to a location, and have another machine reconstitute them. It's a pretty messy idea, probably not possible, and would probably kill you. Even if it didn't, what makes it peculiar is that you could continually make copies of yourself or anything else.

Then there's the method I actually like, which is spacial distortion. Essentially, you go up two dimensions, and create a 5th dimensional bend in time and space to pull two locations together. It's less of you travelling there, and more of the two locations travelling to each other, with the in between being pinched off into a self contained pocket dimension until the pinch is released.

It's not really achievable in any way we can fathom... it would require a being who exists in the 5th or higher dimension to do it. To them, it would be as mundane as us folding sheets. Scifi belief is that wormholes are 5th dimensional bends like this... doors across space with relative time.
I think it would not be possible to teleport a human body because for an object to travel at the speed of light, it must be small like an electron. So, I the cells need to be broken down into electricity for it to travel fast. This is purely based on my knowledge and I don't know if I'm correct. Just my opinion.
Suicidesoldier#1
With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.


stephen hawking suggests that an energy reverberation or loop would result from sufficiently sized wormholes making it likely impossible. otherwise, wormholes are breaches in time/space and therefor whatever point in space and time a wormhole began would be the destination. a two way wormhole with equal time would collapse immediately. a wormhole as a way to another universe would be doable. the main thing here, is that it has to be one way. think of it like pouring water from one cup to another as opposed to a cup pouring water into itself.


matter/energy/reconstruction like in star trek is impossible. 1 human would be like a bagillion nuclear warheads.


matter/information/construction is the teleportation we currently have. we copy the information of a particle and reconstruct an exact duplicate from seperate matter using the info. it's only a particle for now, but even so, it's cloning rather than teleportation of the physical matter.

Fanatical Zealot

logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.


stephen hawking suggests that an energy reverberation or loop would result from sufficiently sized wormholes making it likely impossible. otherwise, wormholes are breaches in time/space and therefor whatever point in space and time a wormhole began would be the destination. a two way wormhole with equal time would collapse immediately. a wormhole as a way to another universe would be doable. the main thing here, is that it has to be one way. think of it like pouring water from one cup to another as opposed to a cup pouring water into itself.


matter/energy/reconstruction like in star trek is impossible. 1 human would be like a bagillion nuclear warheads.


matter/information/construction is the teleportation we currently have. we copy the information of a particle and reconstruct an exact duplicate from seperate matter using the info. it's only a particle for now, but even so, it's cloning rather than teleportation of the physical matter.


Um... I'm talking about an Einstein rosen bridge that would happen as a result of stabilizing a black hole with exotic matter or space warping in order to avoid spaghettification while passing through it.
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.


stephen hawking suggests that an energy reverberation or loop would result from sufficiently sized wormholes making it likely impossible. otherwise, wormholes are breaches in time/space and therefor whatever point in space and time a wormhole began would be the destination. a two way wormhole with equal time would collapse immediately. a wormhole as a way to another universe would be doable. the main thing here, is that it has to be one way. think of it like pouring water from one cup to another as opposed to a cup pouring water into itself.


matter/energy/reconstruction like in star trek is impossible. 1 human would be like a bagillion nuclear warheads.


matter/information/construction is the teleportation we currently have. we copy the information of a particle and reconstruct an exact duplicate from seperate matter using the info. it's only a particle for now, but even so, it's cloning rather than teleportation of the physical matter.


Um... I'm talking about an Einstein rosen bridge that would happen as a result of stabilizing a black hole with exotic matter or space warping in order to avoid spaghettification while passing through it.


what i was describing was an einstein-rosen bridge. that exotic matter thing is some other theory. lemme wiki some. lol okay, that's a morris-thorne wormhole based on the einstein-rosen brige theory. looks like there are more theories

Fanatical Zealot

logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.


stephen hawking suggests that an energy reverberation or loop would result from sufficiently sized wormholes making it likely impossible. otherwise, wormholes are breaches in time/space and therefor whatever point in space and time a wormhole began would be the destination. a two way wormhole with equal time would collapse immediately. a wormhole as a way to another universe would be doable. the main thing here, is that it has to be one way. think of it like pouring water from one cup to another as opposed to a cup pouring water into itself.


matter/energy/reconstruction like in star trek is impossible. 1 human would be like a bagillion nuclear warheads.


matter/information/construction is the teleportation we currently have. we copy the information of a particle and reconstruct an exact duplicate from seperate matter using the info. it's only a particle for now, but even so, it's cloning rather than teleportation of the physical matter.


By having the ability to stabilize a blackhole, you'd make it transversible. Negative gravity, say from negative matter, or say space warping from a warp drive, essentially, could allow for a wormhole.

You could on the other hand, just create a warp drive and essentially be moving faster than light, and teleport. Assuming a slightly delay still counts as teleportation.
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.


stephen hawking suggests that an energy reverberation or loop would result from sufficiently sized wormholes making it likely impossible. otherwise, wormholes are breaches in time/space and therefor whatever point in space and time a wormhole began would be the destination. a two way wormhole with equal time would collapse immediately. a wormhole as a way to another universe would be doable. the main thing here, is that it has to be one way. think of it like pouring water from one cup to another as opposed to a cup pouring water into itself.


matter/energy/reconstruction like in star trek is impossible. 1 human would be like a bagillion nuclear warheads.


matter/information/construction is the teleportation we currently have. we copy the information of a particle and reconstruct an exact duplicate from seperate matter using the info. it's only a particle for now, but even so, it's cloning rather than teleportation of the physical matter.


By having the ability to stabilize a blackhole, you'd make it transversible. Negative gravity, say from negative matter, or say space warping from a warp drive, essentially, could allow for a wormhole.

You could on the other hand, just create a warp drive and essentially be moving faster than light, and teleport. Assuming a slightly delay still counts as teleportation.


but warp is compression and decompression of space. space is not limited in speed as matter travelling through it. i fail to see how it would have anything to do with holes in time/space. unless you are suggesting that you warp matter fast enough across two points in space that any vaccuum, energy, or matter would not have a reaction with it... which sounds hella dangerous. we need deflector shields for that... ooh, so far a seperate magnetosphere to generate a field akin to earth's is 100% plausible....

while we understand how a wormhole would work by laws of physics, the idea that a black hole may be a wormhole is just a theory of "what if this was that." so it may just be a 1 way supermassive singularity...

Fanatical Zealot

logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.


stephen hawking suggests that an energy reverberation or loop would result from sufficiently sized wormholes making it likely impossible. otherwise, wormholes are breaches in time/space and therefor whatever point in space and time a wormhole began would be the destination. a two way wormhole with equal time would collapse immediately. a wormhole as a way to another universe would be doable. the main thing here, is that it has to be one way. think of it like pouring water from one cup to another as opposed to a cup pouring water into itself.


matter/energy/reconstruction like in star trek is impossible. 1 human would be like a bagillion nuclear warheads.


matter/information/construction is the teleportation we currently have. we copy the information of a particle and reconstruct an exact duplicate from seperate matter using the info. it's only a particle for now, but even so, it's cloning rather than teleportation of the physical matter.


By having the ability to stabilize a blackhole, you'd make it transversible. Negative gravity, say from negative matter, or say space warping from a warp drive, essentially, could allow for a wormhole.

You could on the other hand, just create a warp drive and essentially be moving faster than light, and teleport. Assuming a slightly delay still counts as teleportation.


but warp is compression and decompression of space. space is not limited in speed as matter travelling through it. i fail to see how it would have anything to do with holes in time/space. unless you are suggesting that you warp matter fast enough across two points in space that any vaccuum, energy, or matter would not have a reaction with it... which sounds hella dangerous. we need deflector shields for that.

while we understand how a wormhole would work by laws of physics, the idea that a black hole may be a wormhole is just a theory of "what if this was that." so it may just be a 1 way supermassive singularity...


Well it's not actually making a hole in time space so much as it's bending it, a lot, and then that extreme bending can be used to compress time space, enough to make transversing a seemingly far distance short.
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.


stephen hawking suggests that an energy reverberation or loop would result from sufficiently sized wormholes making it likely impossible. otherwise, wormholes are breaches in time/space and therefor whatever point in space and time a wormhole began would be the destination. a two way wormhole with equal time would collapse immediately. a wormhole as a way to another universe would be doable. the main thing here, is that it has to be one way. think of it like pouring water from one cup to another as opposed to a cup pouring water into itself.


matter/energy/reconstruction like in star trek is impossible. 1 human would be like a bagillion nuclear warheads.


matter/information/construction is the teleportation we currently have. we copy the information of a particle and reconstruct an exact duplicate from seperate matter using the info. it's only a particle for now, but even so, it's cloning rather than teleportation of the physical matter.


By having the ability to stabilize a blackhole, you'd make it transversible. Negative gravity, say from negative matter, or say space warping from a warp drive, essentially, could allow for a wormhole.

You could on the other hand, just create a warp drive and essentially be moving faster than light, and teleport. Assuming a slightly delay still counts as teleportation.


but warp is compression and decompression of space. space is not limited in speed as matter travelling through it. i fail to see how it would have anything to do with holes in time/space. unless you are suggesting that you warp matter fast enough across two points in space that any vaccuum, energy, or matter would not have a reaction with it... which sounds hella dangerous. we need deflector shields for that.

while we understand how a wormhole would work by laws of physics, the idea that a black hole may be a wormhole is just a theory of "what if this was that." so it may just be a 1 way supermassive singularity...


Well it's not actually making a hole in time space so much as it's bending it, a lot, and then that extreme bending can be used to compress time space, enough to make transversing a seemingly far distance short.


it's just not teleportation though. it's technologically implausible at this point, but theoretically feasible for long distances, supposing we forgo light/data transmission with high percentage light speed generation ships. short distance, human sized warp, seems very implausible.

Fanatical Zealot

logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
With spacetime warping, maybe, in a sense.

Like with a wormhole.


stephen hawking suggests that an energy reverberation or loop would result from sufficiently sized wormholes making it likely impossible. otherwise, wormholes are breaches in time/space and therefor whatever point in space and time a wormhole began would be the destination. a two way wormhole with equal time would collapse immediately. a wormhole as a way to another universe would be doable. the main thing here, is that it has to be one way. think of it like pouring water from one cup to another as opposed to a cup pouring water into itself.


matter/energy/reconstruction like in star trek is impossible. 1 human would be like a bagillion nuclear warheads.


matter/information/construction is the teleportation we currently have. we copy the information of a particle and reconstruct an exact duplicate from seperate matter using the info. it's only a particle for now, but even so, it's cloning rather than teleportation of the physical matter.


By having the ability to stabilize a blackhole, you'd make it transversible. Negative gravity, say from negative matter, or say space warping from a warp drive, essentially, could allow for a wormhole.

You could on the other hand, just create a warp drive and essentially be moving faster than light, and teleport. Assuming a slightly delay still counts as teleportation.


but warp is compression and decompression of space. space is not limited in speed as matter travelling through it. i fail to see how it would have anything to do with holes in time/space. unless you are suggesting that you warp matter fast enough across two points in space that any vaccuum, energy, or matter would not have a reaction with it... which sounds hella dangerous. we need deflector shields for that.

while we understand how a wormhole would work by laws of physics, the idea that a black hole may be a wormhole is just a theory of "what if this was that." so it may just be a 1 way supermassive singularity...


Well it's not actually making a hole in time space so much as it's bending it, a lot, and then that extreme bending can be used to compress time space, enough to make transversing a seemingly far distance short.


it's just not teleportation though. it's technologically implausible at this point, but theoretically feasible for long distances, supposing we forgo light/data transmission with high percentage light speed generation ships. short distance, human sized warp, seems very implausible.


Yeah, modern technology cannot do this at the moment, but.

With the discovery of the higgs boson we know just that much more about gravity and thus know it's a field that can be manipulated.
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1


By having the ability to stabilize a blackhole, you'd make it transversible. Negative gravity, say from negative matter, or say space warping from a warp drive, essentially, could allow for a wormhole.

You could on the other hand, just create a warp drive and essentially be moving faster than light, and teleport. Assuming a slightly delay still counts as teleportation.


but warp is compression and decompression of space. space is not limited in speed as matter travelling through it. i fail to see how it would have anything to do with holes in time/space. unless you are suggesting that you warp matter fast enough across two points in space that any vaccuum, energy, or matter would not have a reaction with it... which sounds hella dangerous. we need deflector shields for that.

while we understand how a wormhole would work by laws of physics, the idea that a black hole may be a wormhole is just a theory of "what if this was that." so it may just be a 1 way supermassive singularity...


Well it's not actually making a hole in time space so much as it's bending it, a lot, and then that extreme bending can be used to compress time space, enough to make transversing a seemingly far distance short.


it's just not teleportation though. it's technologically implausible at this point, but theoretically feasible for long distances, supposing we forgo light/data transmission with high percentage light speed generation ships. short distance, human sized warp, seems very implausible.


Yeah, modern technology cannot do this at the moment, but.

With the discovery of the higgs boson we know just that much more about gravity and thus know it's a field that can be manipulated.


discovered may 14th 2013... o.....m.....f.....g.....

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