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Golden Dysprosium

Mental disorders aren't really that cut and dry. Psychology and similar fields emerged because tests and pills weren't giving the expected results. An aptly-named GP can only tell you so much, and there are billions of possibilities. Nothing in this world is perfect; just look at the judicial system. A lot of bad people get dropped back into the tank with the rest of us because of some minor technicality, instead of getting the hell they deserve.

Er...that didn't really answer my question.

I realize that mental disorder aren't "cut and dry," persay, but in a sense they are. Even psychological and sociological issues can be boiled down to interactions within the brain. Just because something HASN'T been fully quantified doesn't mean it can't be.

That's my problem with a lot of social sciences. They are viewed almost as some mystical paradigm that can never be truly understand, when that just isn't true.

When a pill doesn't give the expected result, it's because it's the wrong pill.

[Golden Dysprosium]

Or they just shouldn't be taking pills.
See, I used to be an alcoholic. I thought (as many people do) that it helped. I eventually realised it didn't. So I got help from a counsellor, and we discovered the root of the problem. I've been sober now for quite a while, and I'm certainly feeling better.
I can see your thinking on this, though. What you have to keep in mind is a brain is a person, rather than a circuit board, and should be treated as a person.
As for GPs, well, Ben Franklin once said "beware the young doctor and the old barber."

[Dr Dimari]

Well most medical students, in my experience, really don't care about psychology and its importance. We've had a psych placement this year, and I loved it. Many people hated it and havent taken it seriously. So there is your reason: the people that study medicine are often those that disregard it as important and needed.

I aim to be a GP, but I have a very good basic knowledge of psych conditions, but I also aim to subspecialise in Psych too. So don't worry, there will be some who care and will be useful! But I agree with you.

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Golden Dysprosium

Or they just shouldn't be taking pills.
See, I used to be an alcoholic. I thought (as many people do) that it helped. I eventually realised it didn't. So I got help from a counsellor, and we discovered the root of the problem. I've been sober now for quite a while, and I'm certainly feeling better.
I can see your thinking on this, though. What you have to keep in mind is a brain is a person, rather than a circuit board, and should be treated as a person.
As for GPs, well, Ben Franklin once said "beware the young doctor and the old barber."

I disagree. A brain IS a circuit board. Your perceptions, emotions, everything, can be observed as phenomena of chemical and electrical interactions in the brain.

What you're saying, about a brain being a "person," borders on the mystical to me. A brain is a biological unit within certain organisms. Nothing more.

[Sparatcus]

So OP has no qualification, only says he's a student, and only a student doctor with no mention as to WHAT his doctorate is in, or what kind of academic standing he holds in said studies, or the quality of his university, and suddenly he's a trustworthy source of medical knowledge

[Dr Dimari]

Sparatcus

So OP has no qualification, only says he's a student, and only a student doctor with no mention as to WHAT his doctorate is in, or what kind of academic standing he holds in said studies, or the quality of his university, and suddenly he's a trustworthy source of medical knowledge

• Current Qualifications: BMedSci in Biomedical Science relating to medical preclinical studies and research in Autistic Spectrum Disorders
• Currently Studying my MBChB in general medicine & surgery (which means I am training to be a doctor)
I am aiming to train as a General Practitioner, but sub-specialise in either psychiatry or communicable & infectious diseases.
• I am also working with my local branch of the HPA (Health Protection Agency) in South Yorkshire and Humberside in a research position and part of a strategic group working to minimize the problems of Swine Type Influenza A (H1N1)
• I am ranked 5th in 2008-2009 examinations within my year (out of 250), and obtained 94% in my MCAT results when I was thinking of applying to US medical schools
• My university is ranked within the top 50 in the world, and for medicine, is 5th in the UK. Our research has made us renowned for a few important discoveries, such as the Kreb's cycle, the discovery of introns in DNA splicing, development on the clinical use of Penicillin. My university is currently the clinical centre of excellence of rheumatology and bone disorder treatment, as well as nephrology, cardiothoracic and neurosurgery.
• I currently have 2 years clinical experience as a Student Doctor, as well as 4 years part-time experience as a clinical support technician and 5 years part-time experience as a Pharmacy Technician

I also never said I was a 100% accurate source of medical knowledge (as per my disclaimer), and I do not know the answer I use my academic ability to obtain as accurate information as I can. I would appreciate, if you have any further questions, you ask me, rather than trying to point laugh and criticise. There is an etiquette in this forum. Please oblige to follow this. Thanks

[Dr Dimari]

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Golden Dysprosium

Or they just shouldn't be taking pills.
See, I used to be an alcoholic. I thought (as many people do) that it helped. I eventually realised it didn't. So I got help from a counsellor, and we discovered the root of the problem. I've been sober now for quite a while, and I'm certainly feeling better.
I can see your thinking on this, though. What you have to keep in mind is a brain is a person, rather than a circuit board, and should be treated as a person.
As for GPs, well, Ben Franklin once said "beware the young doctor and the old barber."

I disagree. A brain IS a circuit board. Your perceptions, emotions, everything, can be observed as phenomena of chemical and electrical interactions in the brain.

What you're saying, about a brain being a "person," borders on the mystical to me. A brain is a biological unit within certain organisms. Nothing more.

True, but each brain is unique to a fair level, so what may work for someone may not for another. Also, I think Golden meant that a brain MAKES a person, and in any medical treatment, you must treat the person, not just the disease.

[Golden Dysprosium]

Dr Dimari

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Golden Dysprosium

Or they just shouldn't be taking pills.
See, I used to be an alcoholic. I thought (as many people do) that it helped. I eventually realised it didn't. So I got help from a counsellor, and we discovered the root of the problem. I've been sober now for quite a while, and I'm certainly feeling better.
I can see your thinking on this, though. What you have to keep in mind is a brain is a person, rather than a circuit board, and should be treated as a person.
As for GPs, well, Ben Franklin once said "beware the young doctor and the old barber."

I disagree. A brain IS a circuit board. Your perceptions, emotions, everything, can be observed as phenomena of chemical and electrical interactions in the brain.
What you're saying, about a brain being a "person," borders on the mystical to me. A brain is a biological unit within certain organisms. Nothing more.

True, but each brain is unique to a fair level, so what may work for someone may not for another. Also, I think Golden meant that a brain MAKES a person, and in any medical treatment, you must treat the person, not just the disease.

Exacta. If you want to break it down to that "circuit board" level, you're nothing but a hairy sack of wet meat that spews carbon dioxide and bacterial waste all over the place. This of course is just a simplification, and not meant to be offensive.
But if you're going to objectify people, become a lawyer. You're in the business of helping people, not fixing circuit boards.

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Golden Dysprosium

Dr Dimari

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Golden Dysprosium

Or they just shouldn't be taking pills.
See, I used to be an alcoholic. I thought (as many people do) that it helped. I eventually realised it didn't. So I got help from a counsellor, and we discovered the root of the problem. I've been sober now for quite a while, and I'm certainly feeling better.
I can see your thinking on this, though. What you have to keep in mind is a brain is a person, rather than a circuit board, and should be treated as a person.
As for GPs, well, Ben Franklin once said "beware the young doctor and the old barber."

I disagree. A brain IS a circuit board. Your perceptions, emotions, everything, can be observed as phenomena of chemical and electrical interactions in the brain.
What you're saying, about a brain being a "person," borders on the mystical to me. A brain is a biological unit within certain organisms. Nothing more.

True, but each brain is unique to a fair level, so what may work for someone may not for another. Also, I think Golden meant that a brain MAKES a person, and in any medical treatment, you must treat the person, not just the disease.

Exacta. If you want to break it down to that "circuit board" level, you're nothing but a hairy sack of wet meat that spews carbon dioxide and bacterial waste all over the place. This of course is just a simplification, and not meant to be offensive.
But if you're going to objectify people, become a lawyer. You're in the business of helping people, not fixing circuit boards.

Umm...no? The only way to advance research into the workings of biological units is to objectify them. If we looked at them from incongruent, subjective standpoints, then no knowledge we acquired would be trustworthy.

My chosen field is neurochemical research. My work is about advancing treatment and helping people THROUGH objectifying them. Don't try to insult me.

[Golden Dysprosium]

*sigh* well, whatever works for you, I guess. neutral Some of us have to focus on the person, as well.
And there was no intended insult.

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This of course is just a simplification, and not meant to be offensive.

[Dreamy Fairies]

Hi there, recently I've noticed that my hands turn blue during the day. It doesn't happen everyday, but today it wouldn't go away. Should I be concerned about this? My hands aren't cold, and I've tried moving my arms around, running them under warm water. Nothing has worked yet.

[Dr Dimari]

Dreamy Fairies

Hi there, recently I've noticed that my hands turn blue during the day. It doesn't happen everyday, but today it wouldn't go away. Should I be concerned about this? My hands aren't cold, and I've tried moving my arms around, running them under warm water. Nothing has worked yet.

If they are not cold, numb or painful then its less likely to be a circulation problem. When you mean blue, is there just a tinge? If so, its probably not a lot to worry about. Using some tiger balm could help. I would see your GP if it becomes more prolonged, you get any other symptoms or if you have any concerns.

[Dreamy Fairies]

They were pretty blue, enough to where a teacher pointed out to me. Later on they started to tingle slightly. I ended up taking a nap and when I woke up they were pink again.

[Golden Dysprosium]

Dreamy Fairies

They were pretty blue, enough to where a teacher pointed out to me. Later on they started to tingle slightly. I ended up taking a nap and when I woke up they were pink again.

If they're tingling and changing color, it's blood circulation. How much/often you use them and for what purpose can greatly affect your hands. Things like smoking, excessive typing/mousing or tight clothes/jewlery can result in chemical or physical impairment. Massaging your forearms and wearing warm clothes can also help.

[GenOberst]

Dr Dimari

Well most medical students, in my experience, really don't care about psychology and its importance. We've had a psych placement this year, and I loved it. Many people hated it and havent taken it seriously. So there is your reason: the people that study medicine are often those that disregard it as important and needed.

I'm one of the ones who didn't like it. Granted, I was also bored with my surgical rotations.