Bottom of the ocean...

[Dorinkingu]

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

I watched a documentary on colossal squids recently. I was disappoint >3>
Only got to see it alive in the very beginning. They didn't even try to keep it alive, they just froze it D:<
The rest was just thawing, analyzing and dissecting. I learned a lot of facts about squids though -_-

YAY! blaugh

Did you know that octopuses are almost as intelligent humans; if they didn't die at the age of 5 they might be the co-dominant species on the planet. O_o


They've crawled onto ships, undid locks, ate fish, and then jumped away.

Like seriously; how did they know how to get on the ship, how did they know how to open the lock, how did they know where the water was beneath them; just raw intelligence.

I wonder if they're self aware .-.
All that intelligence means little if you can't appreciate it sweatdrop

Oh they're probably self aware.

You should see some stuff with gorillas.


I mean it's just like people.

Animals are far more intelligent and aware then we've ever given them credit for, and it can be terrifying, if not a downright shock, to suddenly realize that they are thinking beings just like us.


This is Good, but I recommend skipping a lot of stuff.

Capcha: taco tuesday
*is actually eating a burrito right now* xd

Anyways, I think self aware animals should have more rights than other animals. I mean, retarded children have rights (and they are held accountable for their actions as well~) within our society. Even a gorilla, which is one of the less intelligent great apes, still has the mental capacity of at least a retarded child XD
They even surpass normal human children in several areas of cognitive ability.
I wouldn't give them the same rights as a normal adult human has, but I would give dolphins and elephants and the other self aware, intelligent animals rights like, the right to be educated, and it being considered murder to kill them. They should also be held accountable for crimes they commit, assuming they were taught better.

I don't think gorillas and such should be set free into the cities or anything lmao
But, I really like things like the great ape trust, and etc., where they teach great apes language and treat them basically like children XD <3

I'm really excited for when they are finally able to decipher dolphin language. I know they have language, but it'll be very interesting to see how complex it is. Might not be as grammatically complex as human language per se, but I'll bet it's much more tonally complex~

*le very interested in this kind of stuff*

Well gorillas are actually very intelligent; they have complicated language systems, live in homes, make herbs and strangely seem to have religion.


Chimpanzees are rather intelligent, having invented spears and whatnot to hunt, but they are incredibly mean. ._.

This probs slows down their ability to progress.


Gorillas are super strong and are vegetarian, so there really is no need for them to get any better, which is why you only see sparse tool usage; obviously visible, but not really anything complex like a spear.

Birds though seem to be highly intelligent as well, and not too dissimilar from ourselves; raise their young, build homes, have a complicated language system and move to warmer areas and whatnot when it's cold.


Seem to communicate this rather than innately know where to go, which is why scientists have yet to find a "mechanism" for understanding their migration patterns; they came from dinosaurs after all.

Dolphins look cool as well.


Without necessity technology tends to advance slowly for quite some time and then once technology for technologies sake takes off it expands exponentially; course we don't really see that in any other animal.

Gorillas aren't suuuper intelligent, but they do have a fair amount of logic and common sense (like, they can tell the difference between the strength of a puppy vs a mountain cat charging at them, and adjust accordingly XD)
They're pretty peaceful, but once in a while they can lose their cool, which can be dangerous (even if they don't intend on hurting anybody).

A lot of birds are not very smart actually. Chickens, for instance, are quite stupid XD;
There are some very intelligent birds though~ ish quite interesting.

[Suicidesoldier#1]

Dorinkingu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

I wonder if they're self aware .-.
All that intelligence means little if you can't appreciate it sweatdrop

Oh they're probably self aware.

You should see some stuff with gorillas.


I mean it's just like people.

Animals are far more intelligent and aware then we've ever given them credit for, and it can be terrifying, if not a downright shock, to suddenly realize that they are thinking beings just like us.


This is Good, but I recommend skipping a lot of stuff.

Capcha: taco tuesday
*is actually eating a burrito right now* xd

Anyways, I think self aware animals should have more rights than other animals. I mean, retarded children have rights (and they are held accountable for their actions as well~) within our society. Even a gorilla, which is one of the less intelligent great apes, still has the mental capacity of at least a retarded child XD
They even surpass normal human children in several areas of cognitive ability.
I wouldn't give them the same rights as a normal adult human has, but I would give dolphins and elephants and the other self aware, intelligent animals rights like, the right to be educated, and it being considered murder to kill them. They should also be held accountable for crimes they commit, assuming they were taught better.

I don't think gorillas and such should be set free into the cities or anything lmao
But, I really like things like the great ape trust, and etc., where they teach great apes language and treat them basically like children XD <3

I'm really excited for when they are finally able to decipher dolphin language. I know they have language, but it'll be very interesting to see how complex it is. Might not be as grammatically complex as human language per se, but I'll bet it's much more tonally complex~

*le very interested in this kind of stuff*

Well gorillas are actually very intelligent; they have complicated language systems, live in homes, make herbs and strangely seem to have religion.


Chimpanzees are rather intelligent, having invented spears and whatnot to hunt, but they are incredibly mean. ._.

This probs slows down their ability to progress.


Gorillas are super strong and are vegetarian, so there really is no need for them to get any better, which is why you only see sparse tool usage; obviously visible, but not really anything complex like a spear.

Birds though seem to be highly intelligent as well, and not too dissimilar from ourselves; raise their young, build homes, have a complicated language system and move to warmer areas and whatnot when it's cold.


Seem to communicate this rather than innately know where to go, which is why scientists have yet to find a "mechanism" for understanding their migration patterns; they came from dinosaurs after all.

Dolphins look cool as well.


Without necessity technology tends to advance slowly for quite some time and then once technology for technologies sake takes off it expands exponentially; course we don't really see that in any other animal.

Gorillas aren't suuuper intelligent, but they do have a fair amount of logic and common sense (like, they can tell the difference between the strength of a puppy vs a mountain cat charging at them, and adjust accordingly XD)
They're pretty peaceful, but once in a while they can lose their cool, which can be dangerous (even if they don't intend on hurting anybody).

A lot of birds are not very smart actually. Chickens, for instance, are quite stupid XD;
There are some very intelligent birds though~ ish quite interesting.

Mhhm. 3nodding

[Ryu Kei Shou Kawazu]

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

Perhaps you should submit your ideas to le scientists blaugh

blaugh

Sounds awesome! blaugh

I watched a documentary on colossal squids recently. I was disappoint >3>
Only got to see it alive in the very beginning. They didn't even try to keep it alive, they just froze it D:<
The rest was just thawing, analyzing and dissecting. I learned a lot of facts about squids though -_-

YAY! blaugh

Did you know that octopuses are almost as intelligent humans; if they didn't die at the age of 5 they might be the co-dominant species on the planet. O_o


They've crawled onto ships, undid locks, ate fish, and then jumped away.

Like seriously; how did they know how to get on the ship, how did they know how to open the lock, how did they know where the water was beneath them; just raw intelligence.

thats smarter than human imo, cuz they didnt have training or practice to do that lolll, but I woudl assume they were like I smell fish~~~ (and its not v****a) a lot of fish smell is coming from the boat! ill hop on, O M G the smell is coming behidn the door, but the door wont budge cuz theres s**t metal thing in the way, oh its really easy to pick, this is way too easy, they should have had some access code or somethign that I couldnt have figured out *gets stuffed, then plops into the ocean, only to get eaten by a shark* daw fuhhhk.

Though actually they could turn invisible or somehting, and cuz it isnt bleeding the shark wouldnt be able to sense it easily I suppose lol. but oh well.

[Ryu Kei Shou Kawazu]

Dorinkingu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

I wonder if they're self aware .-.
All that intelligence means little if you can't appreciate it sweatdrop

Oh they're probably self aware.

You should see some stuff with gorillas.


I mean it's just like people.

Animals are far more intelligent and aware then we've ever given them credit for, and it can be terrifying, if not a downright shock, to suddenly realize that they are thinking beings just like us.


This is Good, but I recommend skipping a lot of stuff.

Capcha: taco tuesday
*is actually eating a burrito right now* xd

Anyways, I think self aware animals should have more rights than other animals. I mean, retarded children have rights (and they are held accountable for their actions as well~) within our society. Even a gorilla, which is one of the less intelligent great apes, still has the mental capacity of at least a retarded child XD
They even surpass normal human children in several areas of cognitive ability.
I wouldn't give them the same rights as a normal adult human has, but I would give dolphins and elephants and the other self aware, intelligent animals rights like, the right to be educated, and it being considered murder to kill them. They should also be held accountable for crimes they commit, assuming they were taught better.

I don't think gorillas and such should be set free into the cities or anything lmao
But, I really like things like the great ape trust, and etc., where they teach great apes language and treat them basically like children XD <3

I'm really excited for when they are finally able to decipher dolphin language. I know they have language, but it'll be very interesting to see how complex it is. Might not be as grammatically complex as human language per se, but I'll bet it's much more tonally complex~

*le very interested in this kind of stuff*

Well gorillas are actually very intelligent; they have complicated language systems, live in homes, make herbs and strangely seem to have religion.


Chimpanzees are rather intelligent, having invented spears and whatnot to hunt, but they are incredibly mean. ._.

This probs slows down their ability to progress.


Gorillas are super strong and are vegetarian, so there really is no need for them to get any better, which is why you only see sparse tool usage; obviously visible, but not really anything complex like a spear.

Birds though seem to be highly intelligent as well, and not too dissimilar from ourselves; raise their young, build homes, have a complicated language system and move to warmer areas and whatnot when it's cold.


Seem to communicate this rather than innately know where to go, which is why scientists have yet to find a "mechanism" for understanding their migration patterns; they came from dinosaurs after all.

Dolphins look cool as well.


Without necessity technology tends to advance slowly for quite some time and then once technology for technologies sake takes off it expands exponentially; course we don't really see that in any other animal.

Gorillas aren't suuuper intelligent, but they do have a fair amount of logic and common sense (like, they can tell the difference between the strength of a puppy vs a mountain cat charging at them, and adjust accordingly XD)
They're pretty peaceful, but once in a while they can lose their cool, which can be dangerous (even if they don't intend on hurting anybody).

A lot of birds are not very smart actually. Chickens, for instance, are quite stupid XD;
There are some very intelligent birds though~ ish quite interesting.

like th ebird that can memorize and make over 200,000 sounds or something including machinery sounds.

EDIT: actually they should have those birds listen to music all day so they can make music, itd be awesome lol, why have a radio when you can have a bird XD loll

[Suicidesoldier#1]

Ryu Kei Shou Kawazu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

Suicidesoldier#1

Dorinkingu

Perhaps you should submit your ideas to le scientists blaugh

blaugh

Sounds awesome! blaugh

I watched a documentary on colossal squids recently. I was disappoint >3>
Only got to see it alive in the very beginning. They didn't even try to keep it alive, they just froze it D:<
The rest was just thawing, analyzing and dissecting. I learned a lot of facts about squids though -_-

YAY! blaugh

Did you know that octopuses are almost as intelligent humans; if they didn't die at the age of 5 they might be the co-dominant species on the planet. O_o


They've crawled onto ships, undid locks, ate fish, and then jumped away.

Like seriously; how did they know how to get on the ship, how did they know how to open the lock, how did they know where the water was beneath them; just raw intelligence.

thats smarter than human imo, cuz they didnt have training or practice to do that lolll, but I woudl assume they were like I smell fish~~~ (and its not v****a) a lot of fish smell is coming from the boat! ill hop on, O M G the smell is coming behidn the door, but the door wont budge cuz theres s**t metal thing in the way, oh its really easy to pick, this is way too easy, they should have had some access code or somethign that I couldnt have figured out *gets stuffed, then plops into the ocean, only to get eaten by a shark* daw fuhhhk.

Though actually they could turn invisible or somehting, and cuz it isnt bleeding the shark wouldnt be able to sense it easily I suppose lol. but oh well.

*bizzt*

Actually fish oil is more powerful than blood but it works! blaugh

[m4sshyst3ri4]

Normal light sources, especially the type used on the modern submersibles, would blind a night vision camera. They are made to amplify the light of the moon and stars, not a man made light bulb. I think even ambient light from a light bulb would make the camera useless.

Also the visibility underwater is very low. Night vision doesn't increase visibility due to dust, smoke, soot, ect. The bottom of the ocean is dark and murky.

[Suicidesoldier#1]

m4sshyst3ri4

Normal light sources, especially the type used on the modern submersibles, would blind a night vision camera. They are made to amplify the light of the moon and stars, not a man made light bulb. I think even ambient light from a light bulb would make the camera useless.

Also the visibility underwater is very low. Night vision doesn't increase visibility due to dust, smoke, soot, ect. The bottom of the ocean is dark and murky.

Can be.

But I imagine it could very easily be possible. 3nodding

[m4sshyst3ri4]

I don't see how, light doesn't penetrate solids. Dirt and silt from the bottom of the ocean is very much solid. If light can't penetrate it then there really is no way of seeing through it. Even if they shined stadium lights down there you wouldn't be able to see much farther than you can now. If it were very easy they would have done it a long time ago, I suspect they want to.

[Suicidesoldier#1]

m4sshyst3ri4

I don't see how, light doesn't penetrate solids. Dirt and silt from the bottom of the ocean is very much solid. If light can't penetrate it then there really is no way of seeing through it. Even if they shined stadium lights down there you wouldn't be able to see much farther than you can now. If it were very easy they would have done it a long time ago, I suspect they want to.

Light penetrates solids all the time; glass, plexyglass, plastics, virtually any translucent or see through material, and thinly spread solids such as dust are highly applicable.

In addition, they did pretty much use stadium lights at one point to cover massive grounds by essentially having two submarines; one to give off tons of lights and the other to film what was there by flying through it.


One of the main goals was to give everything depth but it was one of the largest things filmed under water every; it's on "Deep ocean" The blue planet or something.

And the "they would have done it already" idea is a poor argument.


In any case, why?

There doesn't seem to be a very good reason other than "we haven't got around to it", testing to see what works, waiting for a failure so they can modify it later on, which is perfectly applicable imo.

[m4sshyst3ri4]

I think you're confusing the bottom of the ocean where divers go, and the bottom of the ocean where only unmanned submersibles can go, even manned submersibles can't go here and this is where we need the lights to see. At those depths with 0 light and close enough to the floor for dirt to be floating about the debris in the water limit visibility.

Also the debris would be thick enough to cause the light to reflect. All solid things reflect light, making the camera useless again. Like I said, you can get a night vision camera for little of nothing now. It would be no problem for them to put one on a sub, they even make underwater ones for shallow diving, and test it. Obviously it's not that easy.

Also light dissipates very quickly under water. So you still wouldn't get very good range with a night vision camera even if the ocean was clean as a whistle.

[awesome 5]

m4sshyst3ri4

I think you're confusing the bottom of the ocean where divers go, and the bottom of the ocean where only unmanned submersibles can go, even manned submersibles can't go here and this is where we need the lights to see. At those depths with 0 light and close enough to the floor for dirt to be floating about the debris in the water limit visibility.

Also the debris would be thick enough to cause the light to reflect. All solid things reflect light, making the camera useless again. Like I said, you can get a night vision camera for little of nothing now. It would be no problem for them to put one on a sub, they even make underwater ones for shallow diving, and test it. Obviously it's not that easy.

Also light dissipates very quickly under water. So you still wouldn't get very good range with a night vision camera even if the ocean was clean as a whistle.

They've been to the bottom of the ocean, in manned submersibles, and sent people down there. .___.

And seen through these supposed blinding dust clouds.


And I'm aware that light doesn't travel very far effectively; hence using night vision to amplify the seen light.

Pretty easy stuff.