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Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.


the universe wasn't created from nothing. it is impossible to do so. but once the universe dies, we will all be dead too.

who is stupid enough to want to live forever?

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Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.


the universe wasn't created from nothing. it is impossible to do so. but once the universe dies, we will all be dead too.

who is stupid enough to want to live forever?


Me. : P

I'd love to live forever! blaugh
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.


the universe wasn't created from nothing. it is impossible to do so. but once the universe dies, we will all be dead too.

who is stupid enough to want to live forever?


Me. : P

I'd love to live forever! blaugh


try being immortal and impervious to all forces in the universe... never die no matter what. earth eventually gets swallowed by the sun but you alone live to float endlessly in a void. sounds exciting.

Fanatical Zealot

logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.


the universe wasn't created from nothing. it is impossible to do so. but once the universe dies, we will all be dead too.

who is stupid enough to want to live forever?


Me. : P

I'd love to live forever! blaugh


try being immortal and impervious to all forces in the universe... never die no matter what. earth eventually gets swallowed by the sun but you alone live to float endlessly in a void. sounds exciting.


YEAH! blaugh

It will give me plenty of time to think.
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.


the universe wasn't created from nothing. it is impossible to do so. but once the universe dies, we will all be dead too.

who is stupid enough to want to live forever?


Me. : P

I'd love to live forever! blaugh


try being immortal and impervious to all forces in the universe... never die no matter what. earth eventually gets swallowed by the sun but you alone live to float endlessly in a void. sounds exciting.


YEAH! blaugh

It will give me plenty of time to think.


i'd be scared shitless floating in and endless void like that. sure, we would all go insane, but what happens after being insane for a century? i millennia?

i think humans would do well to live 3 times as long as we do, but at a certain point, you will want to die. most deaths would be from accidents, murders, and suicides. suicide would become and normal and legal part of life. we would have suicide booths on every main st corner.

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logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
logan the god of candy
Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.


the universe wasn't created from nothing. it is impossible to do so. but once the universe dies, we will all be dead too.

who is stupid enough to want to live forever?


Me. : P

I'd love to live forever! blaugh


try being immortal and impervious to all forces in the universe... never die no matter what. earth eventually gets swallowed by the sun but you alone live to float endlessly in a void. sounds exciting.


YEAH! blaugh

It will give me plenty of time to think.


i'd be scared shitless floating in and endless void like that. sure, we would all go insane, but what happens after being insane for a century? i millennia?

i think humans would do well to live 3 times as long as we do, but at a certain point, you will want to die. most deaths would be from accidents, murders, and suicides. suicide would become and normal and legal part of life. we would have suicide booths on every main st corner.


Nah, I want to live forever.

Would be amazing. xp
Probably no and no, well depending on what you consider to be 'live forever'. The original you in its current sack of flesh probably isn't. Maybe there'll be something interesting in maybe a few centuries min and who knows max.
Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You're joking right? Stars aren't individually expanding faster than the speed of light (which isn't even physically possible). Galaxies are moving away from each other at a fast rate, yes, but this still doesn't mean much because there is more than enough dark matter to hold the superstructures of the universe together for hundreds of billions of years yet.

The universe is only 14 billion years old. We haven't even yet witnessed the advanced evolution of a red dwarf star because they have lifespans of at least 100 billion years. The universe is still extremely young.

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unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You speak of a few billion years as if its trivial. If we somehow survive until then we will be the gods of our own existence.

Fanatical Zealot

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Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You're joking right? Stars aren't individually expanding faster than the speed of light (which isn't even physically possible). Galaxies are moving away from each other at a fast rate, yes, but this still doesn't mean much because there is more than enough dark matter to hold the superstructures of the universe together for hundreds of billions of years yet.

The universe is only 14 billion years old. We haven't even yet witnessed the advanced evolution of a red dwarf star because they have lifespans of at least 100 billion years. The universe is still extremely young.

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unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You speak of a few billion years as if its trivial. If we somehow survive until then we will be the gods of our own existence.


Uh... uh...
Suicidesoldier#1
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Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You're joking right? Stars aren't individually expanding faster than the speed of light (which isn't even physically possible). Galaxies are moving away from each other at a fast rate, yes, but this still doesn't mean much because there is more than enough dark matter to hold the superstructures of the universe together for hundreds of billions of years yet.

The universe is only 14 billion years old. We haven't even yet witnessed the advanced evolution of a red dwarf star because they have lifespans of at least 100 billion years. The universe is still extremely young.

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unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You speak of a few billion years as if its trivial. If we somehow survive until then we will be the gods of our own existence.


Uh... uh...
?

Fanatical Zealot

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Suicidesoldier#1
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Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You're joking right? Stars aren't individually expanding faster than the speed of light (which isn't even physically possible). Galaxies are moving away from each other at a fast rate, yes, but this still doesn't mean much because there is more than enough dark matter to hold the superstructures of the universe together for hundreds of billions of years yet.

The universe is only 14 billion years old. We haven't even yet witnessed the advanced evolution of a red dwarf star because they have lifespans of at least 100 billion years. The universe is still extremely young.

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unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You speak of a few billion years as if its trivial. If we somehow survive until then we will be the gods of our own existence.


Uh... uh...
?


Even if we assume that a galaxy will remain together eventually all the stars will burn out and the radiation will be lost to space. xp

But stars are moving apart, as well; space is expanding, not necessarily stars are moving. xp
Suicidesoldier#1
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Suicidesoldier#1
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Suicidesoldier#1
Eventually the universe will expand so much that stars are unable to reform and it will be impossible to survive without energy.

The universe is already expanding faster than the speed of light and we will be unable to reach other stars in order to power ourselves, and we will eventually die.


Unless we can bend space or find some other form of energy.

The universe was created from nothing, so it's possible to create something from nothing, as with the big bang, but ultimately unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You're joking right? Stars aren't individually expanding faster than the speed of light (which isn't even physically possible). Galaxies are moving away from each other at a fast rate, yes, but this still doesn't mean much because there is more than enough dark matter to hold the superstructures of the universe together for hundreds of billions of years yet.

The universe is only 14 billion years old. We haven't even yet witnessed the advanced evolution of a red dwarf star because they have lifespans of at least 100 billion years. The universe is still extremely young.

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unless we can figure out how to do that we've only got a few billion years at most.
You speak of a few billion years as if its trivial. If we somehow survive until then we will be the gods of our own existence.


Uh... uh...
?


Even if we assume that a galaxy will remain together eventually all the stars will burn out and the radiation will be lost to space. xp

But stars are moving apart, as well; space is expanding, not necessarily stars are moving. xp
That's assuming our universe will remain at less than critical density.

Even when stars burn out, it's not the end of them. For a high mass star, their supernova will create a range of heavy elements that will eventually contribute to the formation of new star systems in the nearby region. For low mass stars, their outer shells will be ejected as they enter the planetary nebula phase of their life (after switching from hydrogen fusion to helium or carbon fusion), and that debris will drift until forming an accretion disk or a protoplanetary disk.

Space is expanding, but that doesn't mean individual stars are increasing distance from one another. The expansion of space is only really noticeable on massive scales - galaxy clusters and above. For anything below that, the power of gravity is more than enough to hold structures together within the expanding universe.

Put simply, it would take the enormous mass consumption of many black holes to drain the matter out of clusters of galaxies such that gravity and accretion can no longer form stars within them, as even when stars die they simply rebuild themselves with surrounding matter. I'm not saying the universe won't eventually die, but it won't be for hundreds of billions - probably trillions of years.

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Suicidesoldier#1
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Suicidesoldier#1
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You're joking right? Stars aren't individually expanding faster than the speed of light (which isn't even physically possible). Galaxies are moving away from each other at a fast rate, yes, but this still doesn't mean much because there is more than enough dark matter to hold the superstructures of the universe together for hundreds of billions of years yet.

The universe is only 14 billion years old. We haven't even yet witnessed the advanced evolution of a red dwarf star because they have lifespans of at least 100 billion years. The universe is still extremely young.

You speak of a few billion years as if its trivial. If we somehow survive until then we will be the gods of our own existence.


Uh... uh...
?


Even if we assume that a galaxy will remain together eventually all the stars will burn out and the radiation will be lost to space. xp

But stars are moving apart, as well; space is expanding, not necessarily stars are moving. xp
That's assuming our universe will remain at less than critical density.

Even when stars burn out, it's not the end of them. For a high mass star, their supernova will create a range of heavy elements that will eventually contribute to the formation of new star systems in the nearby region. For low mass stars, their outer shells will be ejected as they enter the planetary nebula phase of their life (after switching from hydrogen fusion to helium or carbon fusion), and that debris will drift until forming an accretion disk or a protoplanetary disk.

Space is expanding, but that doesn't mean individual stars are increasing distance from one another. The expansion of space is only really noticeable on massive scales - galaxy clusters and above. For anything below that, the power of gravity is more than enough to hold structures together within the expanding universe.

Put simply, it would take the enormous mass consumption of many black holes to drain the matter out of clusters of galaxies such that gravity and accretion can no longer form stars within them, as even when stars die they simply rebuild themselves with surrounding matter. I'm not saying the universe won't eventually die, but it won't be for hundreds of billions - probably trillions of years.


Except for the fact that the radiation and stuff will leave the galaxies and they won't reform.

Also in a billion years we're expected to form lots and lots of ammonium ferric citrate, for your Irn-Bru soda soft drinks!


Or that space is supposed to expand.

Anyways basically it won't reform cause the galaxies and even individual stars will be so far apart in like 10-20 billion years etc.


We'll collide with the Andromeda galaxy, but even so the time it will take for radiation and stuff to reach other galaxies is so huge in 20 billion years we likely won't ever reform. xp

Also the earth is supposed to be difficult to inhabit in a billion years.
Suicidesoldier#1
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Suicidesoldier#1
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Uh... uh...
?


Even if we assume that a galaxy will remain together eventually all the stars will burn out and the radiation will be lost to space. xp

But stars are moving apart, as well; space is expanding, not necessarily stars are moving. xp
That's assuming our universe will remain at less than critical density.

Even when stars burn out, it's not the end of them. For a high mass star, their supernova will create a range of heavy elements that will eventually contribute to the formation of new star systems in the nearby region. For low mass stars, their outer shells will be ejected as they enter the planetary nebula phase of their life (after switching from hydrogen fusion to helium or carbon fusion), and that debris will drift until forming an accretion disk or a protoplanetary disk.

Space is expanding, but that doesn't mean individual stars are increasing distance from one another. The expansion of space is only really noticeable on massive scales - galaxy clusters and above. For anything below that, the power of gravity is more than enough to hold structures together within the expanding universe.

Put simply, it would take the enormous mass consumption of many black holes to drain the matter out of clusters of galaxies such that gravity and accretion can no longer form stars within them, as even when stars die they simply rebuild themselves with surrounding matter. I'm not saying the universe won't eventually die, but it won't be for hundreds of billions - probably trillions of years.


Except for the fact that the radiation and stuff will leave the galaxies and they won't reform.

Also in a billion years we're expected to form lots and lots of ammonium ferric citrate, for your Irn-Bru soda soft drinks!


Or that space is supposed to expand.

Anyways basically it won't reform cause the galaxies and even individual stars will be so far apart in like 10-20 billion years etc..
You didn't really read what I said did you? There is more than enough gravitational energy to hold the superstructures of the universe together for trillions of years. Individual stars will NOT increase in distance.

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We'll collide with the Andromeda galaxy, but even so the time it will take for radiation and stuff to reach other galaxies is so huge in 20 billion years we likely won't ever reform. xp
What are you talking about? The Milky Way will still be here in 20 billion years.

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Also the earth is supposed to be difficult to inhabit in a billion years
It would only take a few million years for an advanced civilization to colonize the entire galaxy. Assuming we last until then, the living conditions of Earth shouldn't even be an issue.

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