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Well, here I am again (but this time I'm really confused). I don't know why I'm often looking up things that have to do with astrology and things like that (because well, it gives me anxiety, that's why I can't really go anywhere with it. Still I'm always wondering).

Anyway, I was reading about the new movie 2012 and I guess it included the "theories" behind the actually date. And they mentioned this "Age of Aquarius". I've been looking this up (but again I'm kinda slow with this stuff). I'm not understanding these astrological ages, or how they're determined. I guess I'm wondering if someone could explain this like they're talking to a child.
 
     
 
It's likely written by children, so it should seem appropriate to someone who wants a child's explanation.
wahmbulance I haven't actually read my source and know nothing about this topic wahmbulance
     
"well most democrats, like yourself, are idiots."

Because we capitalize the beginnings of our sentences?
Ugh. That was a weird article.
Erm, as for the explaination, it seems these "ages" are determined by the "rotation" of the constellations. I was born in July, so I'm a Cancer (no jokes, please), meaning I was "born under that sign". It's sorta the same thing, except instead of months, it's 1,000s of years. It kinda makes sense, since they used the stars for navigation and such. The significance of these 'ages' is that they're supposed to bring change, and usher in a new era. Apparently, the next one is going to be like the 70's, with lots of hippie/fight-the-power crap and the like. The 2012 thing predicts the world will end, but the Mayan calendar was apparently made backwards (meaning, they picked a day waaaay in the future, and worked back). It's only when their calendar ends. If you aren't worried about the earth exploding by Dec. 31, 2009, I wouldn't worry about this 2012 thing.
 
     
 
In the words of the song...

Quote:
When the moon is in the Seventh House~
And Jupiter aligns with Mars~
Then peace will guide the planets~
And love will steer the stars~

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!


And in a not so obnoxious context, I think I recall the age of Aquarius being the uniformity of mankind. Like, their peaceful coexistence or something vague like that. Finding a coherent definition is probably impossible because, you know, it's astrology. It's their job to be vague. stare
     
Golden Dysprosium
Ugh. That was a weird article.
Erm, as for the explaination, it seems these "ages" are determined by the "rotation" of the constellations. I was born in July, so I'm a Cancer (no jokes, please), meaning I was "born under that sign". It's sorta the same thing, except instead of months, it's 1,000s of years. It kinda makes sense, since they used the stars for navigation and such. The significance of these 'ages' is that they're supposed to bring change, and usher in a new era. Apparently, the next one is going to be like the 70's, with lots of hippie/fight-the-power crap and the like. The 2012 thing predicts the world will end, but the Mayan calendar was apparently made backwards (meaning, they picked a day waaaay in the future, and worked back). It's only when their calendar ends. If you aren't worried about the earth exploding by Dec. 31, 2009, I wouldn't worry about this 2012 thing.

It's fair to note, though, that astrology - even if it were grounded in science - is completely unreliable by virtue of an expanding universe. Our little dustball doesn't make neat, perfect rotations each year. Since the time the constellations, namely your sun sign, rising sign, moon sign, etc., were determined, the stars have shifted. So much so that the entire system is nearly one sign off at all times.

As for the Age itself, even foremost astrologers can't agree on the date of its onset, giving approximations that vary within three thousand years of each other. They can't even agree on what it means, citing the development of every "Aquarian" advancement under the sun, from computers to culture.

The influence came in pop culture through use of the notion in the 60s and 70s. And that's what the Age of Aquarius is, really; hippie pop culture. It's a nice idea, but to take it seriously is an unbelievable fallacy.

I wouldn't worry about it. This movie coming out is about as grounded in legitimate research as I'm grounded in potting soil.
 
     
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Golden Dysprosium
Ugh. That was a weird article.
Erm, as for the explaination, it seems these "ages" are determined by the "rotation" of the constellations. I was born in July, so I'm a Cancer (no jokes, please), meaning I was "born under that sign". It's sorta the same thing, except instead of months, it's 1,000s of years. It kinda makes sense, since they used the stars for navigation and such. The significance of these 'ages' is that they're supposed to bring change, and usher in a new era. Apparently, the next one is going to be like the 70's, with lots of hippie/fight-the-power crap and the like. The 2012 thing predicts the world will end, but the Mayan calendar was apparently made backwards (meaning, they picked a day waaaay in the future, and worked back). It's only when their calendar ends. If you aren't worried about the earth exploding by Dec. 31, 2009, I wouldn't worry about this 2012 thing.


Thanks.

I'm not worried about the date, I was just wondering what it meant.
     
Jessalina
Golden Dysprosium
Ugh. That was a weird article. If you aren't worried about the earth exploding by Dec. 31, 2009, I wouldn't worry about this 2012 thing.

Thanks.
I'm not worried about the date, I was just wondering what it meant.

Then you'd literally be worried about nothing.
Unless you line your cupboards with salt to stop evil spirits from stealing your Fudgee-os, I can't see any reason to believe this stuff.
 
     
 
Golden Dysprosium
Jessalina
Golden Dysprosium
Ugh. That was a weird article. If you aren't worried about the earth exploding by Dec. 31, 2009, I wouldn't worry about this 2012 thing.

Thanks.
I'm not worried about the date, I was just wondering what it meant.

Then you'd literally be worried about nothing.
Unless you line your cupboards with salt to stop evil spirits from stealing your Fudgee-os, I can't see any reason to believe this stuff.

Yeah I don't. Nothing seems to add up in my head. So it's just another date.
(By the way I don't think salt will stop the evil spirits stealing my snacks.)
     
Jessalina
Jessalina
Well, here I am again (but this time I'm really confused). I don't know why I'm often looking up things that have to do with astrology and things like that (because well, it gives me anxiety, that's why I can't really go anywhere with it. Still I'm always wondering).

Anyway, I was reading about the new movie 2012 and I guess it included the "theories" behind the actually date. And they mentioned this "Age of Aquarius". I've been looking this up (but again I'm kinda slow with this stuff). I'm not understanding these astrological ages, or how they're determined. I guess I'm wondering if someone could explain this like they're talking to a child.


It's got to do with how the axis of the earth changes position (which is no big deal) over time and how it "aligns" with the 12 zodiac-constellation-things. It's explained fairly well in the beginning of the Zeitgeist movie.
 
     
 
Golden Dysprosium
Ugh. That was a weird article.
Erm, as for the explaination, it seems these "ages" are determined by the "rotation" of the constellations. I was born in July, so I'm a Cancer (no jokes, please), meaning I was "born under that sign". It's sorta the same thing, except instead of months, it's 1,000s of years. It kinda makes sense, since they used the stars for navigation and such. The significance of these 'ages' is that they're supposed to bring change, and usher in a new era. Apparently, the next one is going to be like the 70's, with lots of hippie/fight-the-power crap and the like. The 2012 thing predicts the world will end, but the Mayan calendar was apparently made backwards (meaning, they picked a day waaaay in the future, and worked back). It's only when their calendar ends. If you aren't worried about the earth exploding by Dec. 31, 2009, I wouldn't worry about this 2012 thing.


An Age specifies which house our planet is aligned to at that point in time. Moses saw the end to the age of Taurus, actually living through the Age of Aries. The reason why Jewish people blow through a ram's horn is because the time they dominated the planet was the age of Aries. The entire scene with Moses and freaking out at the sight of a giant golden calf was a sign of the age of Taurus, and his destroying it was symbolic of the age change from Taurus to Pisces. This fact also figures into the 'Jesus Fish' icon, which is actually a sign of Pisces - so the 'Jesus Fish' isn't actually a Christian symbol, it was stolen out right from the Zodiac Table, which is a Pagan concept. Right now, is the age of Pisces, and next is the age of Aquarius. An age lasts about 1,200 years, and is sometimes referred to as 'the great year.'
     
Golden Dysprosium
Jessalina
Golden Dysprosium
Ugh. That was a weird article. If you aren't worried about the earth exploding by Dec. 31, 2009, I wouldn't worry about this 2012 thing.

Thanks.
I'm not worried about the date, I was just wondering what it meant.

Then you'd literally be worried about nothing.
Unless you line your cupboards with salt to stop evil spirits from stealing your Fudgee-os, I can't see any reason to believe this stuff.


What you say rings true. This fear that humans have during a shift from one age to another, or from one century to another (remember the y2k scare?) is called 'end times phobia'. From a purely metaphysical crap standard, for some reason people always get all scared at the end of a century or an age. Instead of seeing it as a fresh start, people who believe in this s**t see it as an omen of impending doom.

The christians had Armageddon pinned down for 2000 - which OF COURSE came and went without any incident whatsoever. Now, is this Ancient Prophecy from the Mayan Culture - Monkeys going all loopy because the Mayans got lazy and didn't write any thing more in their precious calendar past 2012. You know what I call that? Coincidence! They couldn't rightly be expected to write forward in their calendar forever. And when 2012 comes and goes without accident, just like y2k, hopefully people will finally figure out that end times prophecies are bullshit?
 
     
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An Age specifies which house our planet is aligned to at that point in time. Moses saw the end to the age of Taurus, actually living through the Age of Aries. The reason why Jewish people blow through a ram's horn is because the time they dominated the planet was the age of Aries. The entire scene with Moses and freaking out at the sight of a giant golden calf was a sign of the age of Taurus, and his destroying it was symbolic of the age change from Taurus to Pisces. This fact also figures into the 'Jesus Fish' icon, which is actually a sign of Pisces - so the 'Jesus Fish' isn't actually a Christian symbol, it was stolen out right from the Zodiac Table, which is a Pagan concept. Right now, is the age of Pisces, and next is the age of Aquarius. An age lasts about 1,200 years, and is sometimes referred to as 'the great year.'

Well, that put the Wiki article I read to shame. neutral
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The christians had Armageddon pinned down for 2000 - which OF COURSE came and went without any incident whatsoever. Now, is this Ancient Prophecy from the Mayan Culture - Monkeys going all loopy because the Mayans got lazy and didn't write any thing more in their precious calendar past 2012. You know what I call that? Coincidence! They couldn't rightly be expected to write forward in their calendar forever. And when 2012 comes and goes without accident, just like y2k, hopefully people will finally figure out that end times prophecies are bullshit?

I read a topic about this a loooooong time ago, and it seems as though the Mayans (why are we taking the advice of a people who got wiped out?) constructed their calendars backwards, which is something few people realise. As for end times paranoia, I've lived through a planetary alignment, Y2K, and "The Breakfast Club", so I'll probably live through the 2012 thing, too.
     
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