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| Global Warming | |
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| This is so stupid... | |
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| I'm not sure, I'm just clicking this for gold.. ^^ | |
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@Golden Dysprosium: Very curious. Or maybe they're all fatalists at heart?
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Updates: working on Pole Shift right now. however, I'm not finishing it just yet- I'm waiting on some information from an expert actually. The theory why the Pole Shifts happen is very complicated. The destruction are easy to write about, but the reason WHY it happens is difficult to explain in layman's terms. So i emailed an astronomer to try to help me out. hopefully they'll get back soon.
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Golden Dysprosium Does anyone else find it odd that a planet full of people that put off doing their laundry for a week are worried about an unlikely event 3 years in the future? Kiyuta @Golden Dysprosium: Very curious. Or maybe they're all fatalists at heart? It just seems strange to me. If time is going to implode into itself, I don't want to be wearing some smelly tank top with mustard stains on it. |
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Global warming I quess.
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AquilisNoctis Yellowstone's the big one. Which sucks because knowing about the volcano will probably keep me out of the west for like all of my life. it stinks too cause i have family out that way and they don't want to hear anything of it. *le sigh* Our children's children will die of natural causes before Yellowstone goes off. |
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Very interesting thread man. I think if anything, the galactic alignment is what I'm worried (excited) about. You would probably be better at finding all the required info, but here's what I've gathered (from memory) from several places.
Every 11 years, we have sunspots. This is most likely caused by the gravitational pull of the sun being weakened by having 2 planets, Jupiter and Saturn i think, on opposite sides of the sun. The last one was in 2001. We are spinning around our sun, which in turn is spinning around the center of our galaxy which is believed to be a "black hole" with unimaginable gravitational pull. We're out near the edge, and right now, we're on the top (bottom? who knows razz ) edge of the spiral. In '12 we're going to be passing through and down to the bottom edge, crossing directly across the center of the galaxy, having our sun aligned with it. Now, this happens either 11,000 or 26,000 years (cant quite remember). So on the same time that our sun's g is weakened, we'll be open towards the center of the galaxy. They believe (and have proven the alignment...i'm pretty sure it was from the nasa site) that the last time this happened, Mars was in the position we're going to be in. So, galaxy center | mars | jup- sun -saturn | earth is basically what it was lined up as. They believe that mars used to have an atmosphere much like earth, but this event, the weakening of the sun's pull, and mars being completely open to the center of the galaxy, sucked the atmosphere right off the planet. I dunno how long the oort cloud has been there, but that's about the only strange thing I see about it. Anyways, this time around it's going to be the same alignment, except earth and mars will be in opposite positions. Of all the theories I've seen, this one seems to have the most (if still small amount) of proof to back it up. The mayans were into stars and astronomy, so maybe they could have predicted it too. What do you think? Edit: my little diagram didnt align well, think of our system as a letter t, with the center of the galaxy above. Edit2: There's also something i remembered about the weakening of the gravitational pull. They think we may see signs of it months before December. Something about an aurora being visible in stripes surrounding Earth from the north to south poles all the way around the world, and sticking way out past the poles into space. |
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I have a theroriy on the pole thing: Bermuda Triangle and the Dragon Triangle may be lost poles from long ago....
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schot Very interesting thread man. I think if anything, the galactic alignment is what I'm worried (excited) about. You would probably be better at finding all the required info, but here's what I've gathered (from memory) from several places. Every 11 years, we have sunspots. This is most likely caused by the gravitational pull of the sun being weakened by having 2 planets, Jupiter and Saturn i think, on opposite sides of the sun. The last one was in 2001. We are spinning around our sun, which in turn is spinning around the center of our galaxy which is believed to be a "black hole" with unimaginable gravitational pull. We're out near the edge, and right now, we're on the top (bottom? who knows razz ) edge of the spiral. In '12 we're going to be passing through and down to the bottom edge, crossing directly across the center of the galaxy, having our sun aligned with it. Now, this happens either 11,000 or 26,000 years (cant quite remember). So on the same time that our sun's g is weakened, we'll be open towards the center of the galaxy. They believe (and have proven the alignment...i'm pretty sure it was from the nasa site) that the last time this happened, Mars was in the position we're going to be in. So, galaxy center | mars | jup- sun -saturn | earth is basically what it was lined up as. They believe that mars used to have an atmosphere much like earth, but this event, the weakening of the sun's pull, and mars being completely open to the center of the galaxy, sucked the atmosphere right off the planet. I dunno how long the oort cloud has been there, but that's about the only strange thing I see about it. Anyways, this time around it's going to be the same alignment, except earth and mars will be in opposite positions. Of all the theories I've seen, this one seems to have the most (if still small amount) of proof to back it up. The mayans were into stars and astronomy, so maybe they could have predicted it too. What do you think? well first off, Sun Spots happen every year razz They're a natural part of the Suns life, just like solar flares and solar wind. You're right about the 11 years the Sun's magnetic field flips, causing a massive cycle of suns spots to occure, but it really doesn't have to do with Jupiter or Saturn. It's caused by a natural imbalance thanks to the Sun's constant nuclear activity. True, the first two of the Gaints are large in size and comparison to the Earth, but the Sun's size pales in comparison even with the masses of Jupiter and Saturn put together. The Sun has a mass of 1.9891×1030 kg, and a volume of 1.412×1027 m3. 1,300,000 times bigger then Earth's own volume. You can fit 926 Jupiters into the Sun's Volume, and 1,481 Saturns. In comparison to Gravity though it's the same thing. The Sun is so massive that it's able to keep the planets in linear orbit. The planets themselves too effect the sun, because of a common share of Gravitational pull, but the Planet's to the Sun's ratio is so minuscule that you wouldn't be able to notice. In proportion, it's like saying you have two elephants on opposite sides of the world, would jump at the exact same time to try to off set the Earth's Orbit. It can't happen. They're just too small. Not only that, but you have to calculate Jupiter's and Saturn's distances away from the Sun. Jupiter has an average orbit of 483,780,000 miles away from the Sun. Saturn's is 941,070,000. As big as they are compared to Earth, and as strong as a gravitational pull they probably have on their own surfaces, they're so far away and smaller than the Sun that it wouldn't effect it. As far as Mars goes though, Mars has an extremely thin atmosphere. Carbon dioxide takes up 95% of this, along with Nitrogen, Argon, Oxygen etc in amounts that aren't even above a 1%. The only clue that Mar's had an atmosphere like Earth's, or even a trace of life was a small sample of Methane Gas in the the atmosphere. (Methane is released when Carbon, found in all living things, rots due to chemical change) If Mar's had a atmosphere similar to Earth's though, and it had been sucked off the face of the planet, it wouldn't have been due to gravity alone. Space itself is empty, and you would need a massive (!) force much closer to Mars then the distance between it and the center of the Milky Way to cause a vacuum to strip so much gas off a face of a planet. It all really comes down to distance and perspective. Sure the black hole is large enough to govern the Sun and have you Solar System locked in orbit, but we're inside one of the Outer Bands of the Milky Way. The Black hole, even if you combined it with the Sun's gravitational pull, isn't close enough to effect us more then it has by keeping us in it's orbit. And again, we're not really going to align with the Supermassive black hole. It's all in a matter of Earth's perspective. *scratches head* i'm probably going to have to edit the Mayans and tag on a few pics to explain the whole perspective of a Galactic alignment though. I've been meaning to make a diagram of it, but i've been really busy with work. |
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*EARTH'S PERSPECTIVE / "GALACTIC ALIGNMENT"
This is a very bad picture i know, but i did it rather quickly.. I may or may not make a better one but you never know. Ok. Because of Earth's tilted Axis, Earth spins on a wobble - like an off settled spinning top or a gyro. In the year, 2012, Earth is supposed to complete a cycle of one of these wobbles, creating the illusion of a Galactic Alignment of our Sun with the Center of the Milky Way Galaxy.  View One in the Diagram is pre 2012. View two is post 2012. Yellow is the Sun, Purple line is the Center of the Milky Way plain that the sun "will" cross, and the Red dot and dotted line is an Earth's Perspective sight line. Because of Earth's perspective, the Sun looks like it's traveling up and down in the current of a Sin Wave, crossing the Milky Way's galaxy every several thousand years: As the Earth's Axis starts to tilt, the illusion is created. When you look into the sky once a year, the stars generally line up to the same exact place as they were a year before hand, because of the Earth's elliptical Orbit. The one thing that the Mayans saw that was changing though was the position of the sun, compared to the Supermassive black hole, which again, they saw as their hell. They saw, and plotted out, that the sun travels in a wave cycle, much like a Sin Wave, passing through a point that crossed the center of the galaxy. BUT THIS ONLY CAN OCCUR BECAUSE OF THE EARTH'S TILT. In view one, the Axis is tilted to the left, making the Sun appear like it's traveling upwards above the Milky Way plane. In view two, the Axis is tilted to the right, making the Sun appear like it's traveling down, below the Milky Way plane. The Earth continues this wobbling cycle, giving the view of the Sun's path to the black hole, but if you went anywhere else in the universe, and tried to see this same effect, it doesn't exist. In trust, the sun sits INSIDE one of the bands of the Milky Way, and does not travel up and down on this plane. The Sun travels parallel to the black hole, and we're technically aligned with it 24/7. It's only Earth's perspective that gives the Sun this effect. The Mayan's didn't understand this, or they understood the first perspective, but couldn't grasp the fact to look at it from another place in space (because quite frankly, they couldn't) and saw that in 2012 the Sun would travel into Hell again, but it is only an illusion. |
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Thanks for all the info.
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This is such a wonderful thread. Subscribe'd and thumb'd up.
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A small question about the Yellowstone event: Is there any way we could possibly release some of the pressure building up underground and perhaps lessen the degree of the blast radius for the magma and the ash, maybe decrease it to that of a blast of a much smaller volcano??
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Duke Hellionsworth A small question about the Yellowstone event: Is there any way we could possibly release some of the pressure building up underground and perhaps lessen the degree of the blast radius for the magma and the ash, maybe decrease it to that of a blast of a much smaller volcano?? They're trying to think of ways to depressurize Yellowstone though. It might take some time to figure out a theory of doing so, because were not sure if we have the technology or the machinery to handle such a task. |
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So, if I understand this correctly, The magma chamber that holds in all the gass is like one huge ballon with superheated gass in in. Make one small puncture and the whole thing pops. so there would be now way (As of yet) to stop it from exploding. Could it be possible to tunnle lets say, a large distance away to the magma chamber and create a sort of channal to drain the gass off to another area? I know its probably to dangorus for a maned digging team but mabey, if our tech keeps advancing as it is, to create an unmaned digging team?
Great thread by the way |
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