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There is no definative way to prove the prophecy true or false until it's past the 2012 due date.
personally I don't think it's an end of the world prophecy. The mayian calander cycles, and the cycle after this one ends pretty much says there won't be as many religious zealots and everyone is gonna play nice. 3nodding
 
     
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That 2012 issue?
If somebody believes that something is real, than in their vision, that thing is real. Although in others vision it is unreal.
     
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Black holes haven't even been "proved" yet. They are simply a hypothesis.
To Mayans, the world was flat.
But of course they can't be wrong about this, right?
 
     
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In another point, if the Mayans have made up their so-called "deities" just to control their tribe, then it further proves religion is moreover used to control a set group of people.

As of today, more and more people are becoming to discover that religion was created to control them and start becoming less of their religion. I admit I'm still catholic, but not as much as of lately.

So back to the Mayans, if they have materialized their faith for some gods in their minds, they would probably have made up their so-called "world catastrophe." The reason behind it? I would not know. This is what I think.

I could easily make up some bull over the media about the same thing, and the bull would go outside and reach other people, and those people would refurnish the idea and spread a worldwide scare. Of course we cannot prove if the Mayans have made it up, but how can we prove they didn't either?

Just like lord says, we can only wait for the proof in 2012 and see for ourselves.
     
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Black holes haven't even been "proved" yet. They are simply a hypothesis.
To Mayans, the world was flat.
But of course they can't be wrong about this, right?


Right you are - But if history is any sort of teacher, then the suspicion that the world is going to end on a date because of some prophecy is a failure in logic. The world should have ended dozens of times by now, where religious folks right. Big surprise! They were wrong, every time, just like they're wrong about practically everything else.
 
     
 
Haha.. I've been watching this crap on the History channel all day. I wish they'd stop with the new age stuff and put on some ACTUAL history.

Anyway. I don't know much about Nostradamus or the Mayans.

My U.S. history professor told me that the Mayans stopped using their calendar because they eventually assimilated into the encroaching Spanish cultures that were invading. But weren't the Mayans destroyed due to a devastation of resources or something? I don't remember.

Also, Nostradamus' "predictions" could be applied to several situations. The people on the History Channel think that we was simply making social/political statements in a time when free speech wasn't respected.
     
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At first, the whole end of the world thing sorta gave me the creeps...

Now though, that I have studided up a bit on it. I realize its just a bunch of crap. The world isnt going to end, in the aspect that the Mayans lived so long ago and so did Nostradomus that they chances of their predictions coming true were quite slim. Also, dont you think god (for those who beileve) would have warned us or maybe gotten his people out of here?

I dont know, I'm not even sure on the whole situation, but I think its a bunch of lies.
 
     

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It is highly likely that the sculptor of the calender simply became too weak to go on and more, and the last date he entered was 12/21/12. A date which actually as nothing at all to do with the end of the world.


"Why does your calendar end on December 31st?"

"The calendar maker died before he could write any more."

A simple solution to all this discussion is we could realize nothing in the Mayan culture ever said 2012 was a doomsday. It is a bit silly to call the Mayans wrong on a subject they never even discussed.

But hey, it is not like they can defend themselves.
     
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My U.S. history professor told me that the Mayans stopped using their calendar because they eventually assimilated into the encroaching Spanish cultures that were invading. But weren't the Mayans destroyed due to a devastation of resources or something? I don't remember.



Yes, you're right. History suggests a massive drought killed 15 million of them in practically one day.
 
     
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It's false, all worries should be gone.


Yeah, and how would we know this wasn't some ancient Mayan prank on the future Civilizations.

Best. prank. ever.
     
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whats going to happen on 2013 or 2011? I'm pretty sure they'll be just as many cool events that will happen on those years than on 2012. And I'm sorry, but if Myians knew what was going to happen, why didn't they kick spain out or at least be ready for them when they arrived. I have a policy not to take advice from people living in hovels.
 
     


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My U.S. history professor told me that the Mayans stopped using their calendar because they eventually assimilated into the encroaching Spanish cultures that were invading. But weren't the Mayans destroyed due to a devastation of resources or something? I don't remember.



Yes, you're right. History suggests a massive drought killed 15 million of them in practically one day.


No it does not. There is not historical evidence of a massive drought causing serious problems for the Mayans. The theory of this massive drought comes not from archeological evidence, but from scientists examining lake beds and other physical proxies. Mind you, I am not saying the evidence is incorrect. It is a possible explanation (which would fit in with earlier ecological theories for the decline in civilization). There simply is no archeological or historical evidence suggesting it.

More importantly, millions of Mayans did not die "in practically one day." The idea of a drought causing that many deaths in a short period of time is ludicrous. The theory of a massive drought leading to the Mayan decline says the drought lasted for two hundred years.

Most importantly. The Mayans never predicted any doomsday. This end of the world nonsense came about because people misrepresented Mayan culture, most likely out of incompetence. This entire fad is nothing but stupidity built upon stupidity. A little easy reading is all it takes to see practically everything said in this topic is wrong.
     
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RFLMOA xD mayans never said that the world would end in 2012

its all because of a novel that got published in a film that got other sites like the IHC to make the film more tempting to watch and that makes SCAMS
~ if the world would truly end in 2012 the IHC could pay money to get a ticket but that would be illegal if it dint end... why would they make bunkers and give ludgage for free????? because its not gonna end
by now people sould get sources of information before th
they panic or start beleving in stuff

science fiction is not science xD
 
     
 
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It's false, all worries should be gone.


Yeah, and how would we know this wasn't some ancient Mayan prank on the future Civilizations.

Best. prank. ever.


mayans dint pull pranks HELLO????? THEY DINT EVEN PRIDICT A DOOMS DAY its all because of a novel that was a pretty intresting and got made into a film
that film was 2012
     
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