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Personally, i don't understand any of it. Although I celebrate it, it's not like that's the actual date of jesus's birth, and why do we get presents when he's the one derserving them? I don't get any of the logic behind our celebration on christmas.
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again you aren't "forced" to believe anything----man might try to make you, but God gave you a choice and its yours to make
Now THAT'S a good argument ^.
Dude.. I'm agnostic. So, I don't really care about all of that Christ's birth stuff. I think it is simply a great time for families to spend time with one another. A time to make those around you feel good even if you don't know them. I actually went out this year just to buy some gifts for the kids at the orphanage. I don't know whether or not they believe in Jesus but I do know that they will enjoy their Christmas this year. At least I hope they do. 3nodding

Isn't that what it should be about. Your love for your family (as well as Jesus Christ, if you believe in that).

I mean, why do we celebrate Thanksgiving?
Not because of the Pilgrims and what they did when they were here but we celebrate it because we are thankful for all that we have today in our lives. At least, that's why I do it. whee

IDK.. We all have different point of views. sweatdrop
What I think of Christmas:

1. Family Time
2. Having A Good Time

@_@
Family
Food
Gifts
Fun

THAT DOESN'T SPELL JESUS CHRIST
orphanedhanyou
todays "Christian" society is nothing but people that regard themselves as "moral"--they aren't Christians and hate being held accountable for their actions
and to all the people who won't allow schools and post offices and public places to put up "Merry Christmas" signs and trees because they "offend" people and it "forces" them to participate in Christianity------i can guarantee you that all of those people complaining are getting presents and decorate their houses for Christmas-----its a holiday because its a day that is significant to a majority of people----if you feel "offended" by it then you can give up your presents and your tree and have Santa Clause Day on December 26th

and of course he wasn't born on Christmas---so who cares!!!!!!!!!! its just a day to formally celebrate!!!!!!! with all the things you take for granted which God gave you: family, friends, and prosperity in which you are able to afford presents you won't ever touch again after New Years.


Actually, I don't like hearing and seeing Merry Christmas everywhere. I didn't mind it before when Christmas able to just be a secular holiday, but then mangers started popping up everywhere, in most local buisnesses, including inside my local Wal-Mart, and overtly Christian songs were being played 24/7. Then it started getting annoying. I attribute this to the backlash next year and the year after where people said Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, which was fine by me. Last year there was another backlash from Christians going on about how we're trying to "kill Christmas." The fact that all the local stores went along with them and started playing "Silent Night", "O'Come Emanuel", "Mary Did You Know" and other overtly Christian Christmas songs really pissed me off. Just let it be a freaking secular holiday! Just let me go to stores, look at presents and enjoy the thoughts of my friend's faces when they get their gifts without constantly hearing about the little baby Jesus, or how wonderful God is every 5 minutes. All my issues with Christmas come from the fact that Christians just won't back off about it. All of this "Take back Christmas" and "The true meaning of Christmas" is a bunch of BS. to begin with. Just let the holiday be the secular holiday it's supposed to be and leave me alone. Please!

Personally I just wish Christians would celebrate Christmas their way and let everyone else celebrate the national holiday in their own way. Case in point, I'm hosting a "Halloween on Christmas" party this year. I will be decked out as a werewolf in a black santa suit. It shall be a blast.

PS. Also, I don't like hearing "Merry Christmas" because I'm already hearing Christmas music in stores and I've been seeing Christmas trees since before Halloween. By the time we get to December I'm going to be so sick of Chrismas I'll want to choke those street corner Santas constantly saying "Ho ho ho. Merry Christmas!"
orphanedhanyou
again you aren't "forced" to believe anything----man might try to make you, but God gave you a choice and its yours to make


You might not be forced to believe anything, but unless you stay inside, never watch TV, or turn on the radio then you're pretty much forced to listen to Christian music and hear about the "True Meaning of Christmas."
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Thank you for correcting me. I've only been going on this topic by what I've heard about it from people and different things I have read. I'm more involved in discovering fallacies of the bible at the moment.

Yea... I think that Christianity was originally supposed to just be more of an updated form of Judaism as I see it, mostly because I think that Christ was only a prophet.
I agree in lot of ways. Christ was definitely a good guy. However, Paul (who screwed up his teachings in a LOT of ways definitely wasn't.) Sad that Christianity is more based on Paul instead of Jesus. World could have been a better place. But romans like Paul better since he was a roman.

Corrupt churches have a tendency to ruin religions. I can just imagine how many lives and wars could have been prevented if everything had gone like it was supposed to. My own form of Christianity that I follow basically throws anything that the Catholic church declares law, Jesus' divinity, and most of all, Hell. It's like Judaism without Levecticus.
Ooo, sounds like you've got a good head on your shoulders ^^ I'm impressed.

Random tidbit just popped to mind that you might like. Tselem, that was the original word used for image when the bible says "Man was made in God's image" or whatever your version says. Tselem is closer to idol in a lot of ways, and a specific meaning of the word idol. It meant "That which is to be used in place of the deity/king/individual when the deity/king/individual is not around". So basically, mankind was made to be God when God is not currently giving orders and commands, according to that scripture. So just as a note, the bible encourages humankind to 'play god'. ^^

For some reason this makes me chuckle. I'll have to remember this.
is also the day lots of other gods from different beliefs were born
its all about the constalations that they all happen to share the same birth
the presents are with christmas bc the 3 people who gaave him 3 presents when he was a baby so thats why presents are in
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BlUe No.OdLe
Personally, i don't understand any of it. Although I celebrate it, it's not like that's the actual date of jesus's birth, and why do we get presents when he's the one derserving them? I don't get any of the logic behind our celebration on christmas.

i dont either ...im not saying i dont like the presents hehe i do im just saying i dont get why we have them
oh and just for the record im not trying to push religion on you or anything im just interested in what people think
to those of you who celebrate it happy thanks giving..even if it is a wee late
I celebrate for food, presents, and free holidays

Hallelujah, it's the meaning of Christmas

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