What's with losers and swords, swords suck!

What's your favorite?

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[Ne Sciamus]

Double post, apologies.

[silverblood]

Ultima Squall

I hate it how people are always saying things like this:

"you can block bullets with a sword"
"swords are better than guns"
"guns are for losers with no skills"
"guns take no skills to use"
"guns have no tactics to them"


1. Swords can not block/deflect a bullet, a bullet travels at anywhere from 1000-5000 feet per second, which is much to fast to be blocked by a sword. Also, If you managed to bring your sword to where the bullet is coming from, the bullet would go straight through the sword and keep going at a steady strength. Some guns (i.e.- Shotguns) fire more than one projectile, a shutgun would blow you to pieces, literally.

2. In order to operate a gun you be must be very strong. The recoil on just a .30 caliber gun hurts you arm like hell, a 12 gauge shotgun almost breaks your shoulder when you fire it. You also must wear ear protection because the explosion of the gun powder in the cartdridge is deafening and would permanently damage your hearing.

3. The tactics of a war have become more important. The were no tactics in the days of the sword because, well, swords sucked. The wars we fight now are trench wars, extremely tactical.



No matter what you say, I will not change my mind. I will always have a comeback.

you do not need to be strong to fire a gun also with a sword no ear protection needed well unless you don't mind being earless. and there were war tacticks in the sword days, you would be an indiot to go to war without them and people have known that for a loooong time. and you will always have a comeback because you are a closedminded moron. guns are for pussys who have no skill. there are very few tactics to trench wars, you sit around and fire at whatever moves. plus swords are more interesting, swordplay is an artform.

[Ultima Squall]

Blood Ravenous

Ultima Squall

I hate it how people are always saying things like this:

"you can block bullets with a sword"
"swords are better than guns"
"guns are for losers with no skills"
"guns take no skills to use"
"guns have no tactics to them"


1. Swords can not block/deflect a bullet, a bullet travels at anywhere from 1000-5000 feet per second, which is much to fast to be blocked by a sword. Also, If you managed to bring your sword to where the bullet is coming from, the bullet would go straight through the sword and keep going at a steady strength. Some guns (i.e.- Shotguns) fire more than one projectile, a shutgun would blow you to pieces, literally.

2. In order to operate a gun you be must be very strong. The recoil on just a .30 caliber gun hurts you arm like hell, a 12 gauge shotgun almost breaks your shoulder when you fire it. You also must wear ear protection because the explosion of the gun powder in the cartdridge is deafening and would permanently damage your hearing.

3. The tactics of a war have become more important. The were no tactics in the days of the sword because, well, swords sucked. The wars we fight now are trench wars, extremely tactical.



No matter what you say, I will not change my mind. I will always have a comeback.

I noticed how you didn't refute "guns take no skill," and if you did you'd be wrong. As long as you can aim and reload, which anyone but maybe little kids or blind people could do, you can kill someone.

For 2), that's for the stronger guns. Things like pistols and such are very easy to use and you can kill someone.

For 3), no tactics?! Did you even do research? Obviously not! Formations were very important, and using the terrain was even more important. For trench warfare, how can you call shooting at each other while hiding be tactics?

Guns are for weaklings.

You've gotta be shittin' me! A pistol such as a .357 magnum has one of the worst recoils in any gun, a very strong person would be shaken by one. Even a .22 revolver can make you deaf. You have very little respect for the soldiers of WWII war now is completely different, you have to see someone to kill them! It takes an idiot to shoot at movement in a bush. Have you ever heard of accuracy?

[Yellow-M]

Swords are just way more satisfying to be good with. Guns? I know they're the better weapon but they are so for pussies, come on you know it.

Don't try and tell me that you could kick my a** with a gun either, it just makes you even more of a p***y.

[xXChibiMaikuXx]

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Elski

Swords are more interesting. There's more art in a sword duel, and more talent required to use one skillfully. I prefer swords to guns, all the way.

That being said, if you had a sword and I had a gun and we were both experts in using said weapons and we had a duel... I'd be dead.

well, you see, if we "dueled" all you would have to do is pull the trigger, I'd be dead before you heard anything.

Not nessicarily. It is possible to dodge a bullet, as long as you anticipate the path it's going to take, and move before your opponent pulls the trigger. Why do you think Musashi pwned as much as he did? They had rifles when he was alive.

Actually, moving before they pulled the trigger wouldn't help you. If you've fired a gun, then you might've noticed that you see the reaction of a bullet before you hear any noise of the guns explosion. Also, a shotgun fires a cloud of small pellets having an enourmous range.

It's still possible to dodge. What I'm talking about is the notion of chi.

The ability to see your opponents moves before they make them. I, personally, just notice the muscular movement. And people are pretty easy to read. Shotguns also have horrible kickback, making their accuracy very low. If someone was proficient with the jump and roll dodge, they could escape unscathed rather easily.

From a SHOTGUN blast? I highly doubt it. Unless you can jump ten meters, I would say you still couldnt stand a chance.

Let's say-

Gunner w/ shotgun -vs- Swordsman

Gunner takes aim and shoots.

Swordie jumps outta the way and dashes in...

Gunner slams the stock into Swordie's face.

Swordie reels back.

Gunner has open shot AND at pointblank range, with a SHOTGUN.

Ouch.

Hypothetical of course. But I just wanted to point out, you can't quite dodge a shotgun blast that easily. Besides, who said the gunner would wait until you got close enough?

[Ultima Squall]

xXChibiMaikuXx

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Elski

Swords are more interesting. There's more art in a sword duel, and more talent required to use one skillfully. I prefer swords to guns, all the way.

That being said, if you had a sword and I had a gun and we were both experts in using said weapons and we had a duel... I'd be dead.

well, you see, if we "dueled" all you would have to do is pull the trigger, I'd be dead before you heard anything.

Not nessicarily. It is possible to dodge a bullet, as long as you anticipate the path it's going to take, and move before your opponent pulls the trigger. Why do you think Musashi pwned as much as he did? They had rifles when he was alive.

Actually, moving before they pulled the trigger wouldn't help you. If you've fired a gun, then you might've noticed that you see the reaction of a bullet before you hear any noise of the guns explosion. Also, a shotgun fires a cloud of small pellets having an enourmous range.

It's still possible to dodge. What I'm talking about is the notion of chi.

The ability to see your opponents moves before they make them. I, personally, just notice the muscular movement. And people are pretty easy to read. Shotguns also have horrible kickback, making their accuracy very low. If someone was proficient with the jump and roll dodge, they could escape unscathed rather easily.

From a SHOTGUN blast? I highly doubt it. Unless you can jump ten meters, I would say you still couldnt stand a chance.

Let's say-

Gunner w/ shotgun -vs- Swordsman

Gunner takes aim and shoots.

Swordie jumps outta the way and dashes in...

Gunner slams the stock into Swordie's face.

Swordie reels back.

Gunner has open shot AND at pointblank range, with a SHOTGUN.

Ouch.

Hypothetical of course. But I just wanted to point out, you can't quite dodge a shotgun blast that easily. Besides, who said the gunner would wait until you got close enough?

At pointblank with a shotgun, nothing can survive, you got that right

[Ne Sciamus]

xXChibiMaikuXx

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Elski

Swords are more interesting. There's more art in a sword duel, and more talent required to use one skillfully. I prefer swords to guns, all the way.

That being said, if you had a sword and I had a gun and we were both experts in using said weapons and we had a duel... I'd be dead.

well, you see, if we "dueled" all you would have to do is pull the trigger, I'd be dead before you heard anything.

Not nessicarily. It is possible to dodge a bullet, as long as you anticipate the path it's going to take, and move before your opponent pulls the trigger. Why do you think Musashi pwned as much as he did? They had rifles when he was alive.

Actually, moving before they pulled the trigger wouldn't help you. If you've fired a gun, then you might've noticed that you see the reaction of a bullet before you hear any noise of the guns explosion. Also, a shotgun fires a cloud of small pellets having an enourmous range.

It's still possible to dodge. What I'm talking about is the notion of chi.

The ability to see your opponents moves before they make them. I, personally, just notice the muscular movement. And people are pretty easy to read. Shotguns also have horrible kickback, making their accuracy very low. If someone was proficient with the jump and roll dodge, they could escape unscathed rather easily.

From a SHOTGUN blast? I highly doubt it. Unless you can jump ten meters, I would say you still couldnt stand a chance.

Let's say-

Gunner w/ shotgun -vs- Swordsman

Gunner takes aim and shoots.

Swordie jumps outta the way and dashes in...

Gunner slams the stock into Swordie's face.

Swordie reels back.

Gunner has open shot AND at pointblank range, with a SHOTGUN.

Ouch.

Hypothetical of course. But I just wanted to point out, you can't quite dodge a shotgun blast that easily. Besides, who said the gunner would wait until you got close enough?

My argument wasn't for a gun vs. sword fight. I was merely stating that it was possible to dodge it, that's all. He was treating it like 'guns are infallible,' which is not true. I know a gunman could beat someone with a sword, it's logic, but that doesn't mean said swordsman couldn't dodge a bullet or two, and at least injure the gunman before he died.

[Ultima Squall]

Yellow-M

Swords are just way more satisfying to be good with. Guns? I know they're the better weapon but they are so for pussies, come on you know it.

Don't try and tell me that you could kick my a** with a gun either, it just makes you even more of a p***y.

I can't believe you could actually argue that an inferior weapon by about 500 years is superior. Also, what kind of a guy likes swords, I don't think there's a male in america over the age of twenty who prefers swords.

[Ne Sciamus]

Ultima Squall

Yellow-M

Swords are just way more satisfying to be good with. Guns? I know they're the better weapon but they are so for pussies, come on you know it.

Don't try and tell me that you could kick my a** with a gun either, it just makes you even more of a p***y.

I can't believe you could actually argue that an inferior weapon by about 500 years is superior. Also, what kind of a guy likes swords, I don't think there's a male in america over the age of twenty who prefers swords.

You'd be wrong. Very many of my over 20 male friends prefer swords.

[xXChibiMaikuXx]

Valheru Lightbringer

xXChibiMaikuXx

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Elski

Swords are more interesting. There's more art in a sword duel, and more talent required to use one skillfully. I prefer swords to guns, all the way.

That being said, if you had a sword and I had a gun and we were both experts in using said weapons and we had a duel... I'd be dead.

well, you see, if we "dueled" all you would have to do is pull the trigger, I'd be dead before you heard anything.

Not nessicarily. It is possible to dodge a bullet, as long as you anticipate the path it's going to take, and move before your opponent pulls the trigger. Why do you think Musashi pwned as much as he did? They had rifles when he was alive.

Actually, moving before they pulled the trigger wouldn't help you. If you've fired a gun, then you might've noticed that you see the reaction of a bullet before you hear any noise of the guns explosion. Also, a shotgun fires a cloud of small pellets having an enourmous range.

It's still possible to dodge. What I'm talking about is the notion of chi.

The ability to see your opponents moves before they make them. I, personally, just notice the muscular movement. And people are pretty easy to read. Shotguns also have horrible kickback, making their accuracy very low. If someone was proficient with the jump and roll dodge, they could escape unscathed rather easily.

From a SHOTGUN blast? I highly doubt it. Unless you can jump ten meters, I would say you still couldnt stand a chance.

Let's say-

Gunner w/ shotgun -vs- Swordsman

Gunner takes aim and shoots.

Swordie jumps outta the way and dashes in...

Gunner slams the stock into Swordie's face.

Swordie reels back.

Gunner has open shot AND at pointblank range, with a SHOTGUN.

Ouch.

Hypothetical of course. But I just wanted to point out, you can't quite dodge a shotgun blast that easily. Besides, who said the gunner would wait until you got close enough?

My argument wasn't for a gun vs. sword fight. I was merely stating that it was possible to dodge it, that's all. He was treating it like 'guns are infallible,' which is not true. I know a gunman could beat someone with a sword, it's logic, but that doesn't mean said swordsman couldn't dodge a bullet or two, and at least injure the gunman before he died.

Too true.

[Murasuname_Kahn]

swords are the coolest. They are safer, and kids cannot lift them to hurt anyone.plus they have great designs for them. It is perhaps one of the most popular weapons used. smile

[Sentience]

Ultima Squall

Yellow-M

Swords are just way more satisfying to be good with. Guns? I know they're the better weapon but they are so for pussies, come on you know it.

Don't try and tell me that you could kick my a** with a gun either, it just makes you even more of a p***y.

I can't believe you could actually argue that an inferior weapon by about 500 years is superior. Also, what kind of a guy likes swords, I don't think there's a male in america over the age of twenty who prefers swords.

I'm sure there are tons of guys over 30 that prefer swords. In fact, I believe there are several forms of martial arts that still incorporate swordplay.

And there's also fencing.

[Ultima Squall]

Valheru Lightbringer

xXChibiMaikuXx

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Elski

Swords are more interesting. There's more art in a sword duel, and more talent required to use one skillfully. I prefer swords to guns, all the way.

That being said, if you had a sword and I had a gun and we were both experts in using said weapons and we had a duel... I'd be dead.

well, you see, if we "dueled" all you would have to do is pull the trigger, I'd be dead before you heard anything.

Not nessicarily. It is possible to dodge a bullet, as long as you anticipate the path it's going to take, and move before your opponent pulls the trigger. Why do you think Musashi pwned as much as he did? They had rifles when he was alive.

Actually, moving before they pulled the trigger wouldn't help you. If you've fired a gun, then you might've noticed that you see the reaction of a bullet before you hear any noise of the guns explosion. Also, a shotgun fires a cloud of small pellets having an enourmous range.

It's still possible to dodge. What I'm talking about is the notion of chi.

The ability to see your opponents moves before they make them. I, personally, just notice the muscular movement. And people are pretty easy to read. Shotguns also have horrible kickback, making their accuracy very low. If someone was proficient with the jump and roll dodge, they could escape unscathed rather easily.

From a SHOTGUN blast? I highly doubt it. Unless you can jump ten meters, I would say you still couldnt stand a chance.

Let's say-

Gunner w/ shotgun -vs- Swordsman

Gunner takes aim and shoots.

Swordie jumps outta the way and dashes in...

Gunner slams the stock into Swordie's face.

Swordie reels back.

Gunner has open shot AND at pointblank range, with a SHOTGUN.

Ouch.

Hypothetical of course. But I just wanted to point out, you can't quite dodge a shotgun blast that easily. Besides, who said the gunner would wait until you got close enough?

My argument wasn't for a gun vs. sword fight. I was merely stating that it was possible to dodge it, that's all. He was treating it like 'guns are infallible,' which is not true. I know a gunman could beat someone with a sword, it's logic, but that doesn't mean said swordsman couldn't dodge a bullet or two, and at least injure the gunman before he died.

If the gunner had a bayonet fixed, there's no way a swordsman could get in range, if you've ever seen Band of Brothers, you know what I mean.

[Ne Sciamus]

Ultima Squall

Valheru Lightbringer

xXChibiMaikuXx

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Valheru Lightbringer

Ultima Squall

Elski

Swords are more interesting. There's more art in a sword duel, and more talent required to use one skillfully. I prefer swords to guns, all the way.

That being said, if you had a sword and I had a gun and we were both experts in using said weapons and we had a duel... I'd be dead.

well, you see, if we "dueled" all you would have to do is pull the trigger, I'd be dead before you heard anything.

Not nessicarily. It is possible to dodge a bullet, as long as you anticipate the path it's going to take, and move before your opponent pulls the trigger. Why do you think Musashi pwned as much as he did? They had rifles when he was alive.

Actually, moving before they pulled the trigger wouldn't help you. If you've fired a gun, then you might've noticed that you see the reaction of a bullet before you hear any noise of the guns explosion. Also, a shotgun fires a cloud of small pellets having an enourmous range.

It's still possible to dodge. What I'm talking about is the notion of chi.

The ability to see your opponents moves before they make them. I, personally, just notice the muscular movement. And people are pretty easy to read. Shotguns also have horrible kickback, making their accuracy very low. If someone was proficient with the jump and roll dodge, they could escape unscathed rather easily.

From a SHOTGUN blast? I highly doubt it. Unless you can jump ten meters, I would say you still couldnt stand a chance.

Let's say-

Gunner w/ shotgun -vs- Swordsman

Gunner takes aim and shoots.

Swordie jumps outta the way and dashes in...

Gunner slams the stock into Swordie's face.

Swordie reels back.

Gunner has open shot AND at pointblank range, with a SHOTGUN.

Ouch.

Hypothetical of course. But I just wanted to point out, you can't quite dodge a shotgun blast that easily. Besides, who said the gunner would wait until you got close enough?

My argument wasn't for a gun vs. sword fight. I was merely stating that it was possible to dodge it, that's all. He was treating it like 'guns are infallible,' which is not true. I know a gunman could beat someone with a sword, it's logic, but that doesn't mean said swordsman couldn't dodge a bullet or two, and at least injure the gunman before he died.

If the gunner had a bayonet fixed, there's no way a swordsman could get in range, if you've ever seen Band of Brothers, you know what I mean.

I have seen band of brothers, but do you think Bruce Lee would have been held back by a gun and a little pathetic Bayonet? I don't think so. They had to slow him down in his movies so we could see him properly.

[Yellow-M]

Ultima Squall

Yellow-M

Swords are just way more satisfying to be good with. Guns? I know they're the better weapon but they are so for pussies, come on you know it.

Don't try and tell me that you could kick my a** with a gun either, it just makes you even more of a p***y.

I can't believe you could actually argue that an inferior weapon by about 500 years is superior. Also, what kind of a guy likes swords, I don't think there's a male in america over the age of twenty who prefers swords.

I'm afraid that may be because by the time americans get to 20 they are too obese to use one without losing their breath.

Seriously though, I couldn't care less which was more effective. I simply said that swords were more satisfying to use. There are far more exercises that you can do with them in training, plus you can spar with sword techniques. A lot more control in your own situation than with say paintballing.

This is a stupid argument because you don't like guns because they're better. I don't prefer swords because they're better. If we had those kind of interests we'd be debating between scudds and nukes.