Vampirism: Moved to new thread, see 1st post.

[Obscurus]

I don't want to butt in and start answering questions that other people might already be working on, but I'd be willing to try to explain and answer any psi questions to the best of my ability.

From reading back though, the experiment you've suggested, D.Darko, would work. The problem is that most of the scientific community doesn't believe it's possible or just doesn't care. And unless you get someone somewhat reputable in an academic circle to take a look then no matter what results you get they'll probably be ignored.

The Atlanta Vampire Alliance has been doing some surveys and I think they're still in the process of compiling the data. The survey was massive and I think it was done a couple of years ago. I participated in it. They are supposedly collaborating with those in the scientific and medical communities on this study, but I don't know that much about it and there's not a lot of raw data available as of yet. If you want to investigate it a little further you can go to the website, I'm pretty sure it's www.suscitatio.com

[Obscurus]

D.Darko

Obscurus

D.Darko

I don't really understand what you all mean by feeding off psychic energies. How does it happen? Do psychic vampires feel refreshed, and their targets feel drained? Would this not be somehow studiable?

Say, you could set up a room with a few people in it, and place a psychic vampire behind a curtain or something. Let them drain one person of their metaphysical energies without revealing who, then monitor the (for want of a better word) potential "victims" for signs of fatigue or stress or whatever a loss of this kind of energy does, and see if the vampire's target coincides with the most changeable subject?

I'm just trying to understand, because the assumption in the opening post that there are indeed psychic energies that can be fed off is a bit much for me to accept at face value. ^^"

There have been some interesting results when using Kirlian photography on psychic vampires and their victims, before, during, and after the feeding. It's largely accepted that Kirlian photography captures the coronal discharge of living things.

That's about as much scientific study as has been invested in the subject however. You can apparently find this information in the book Psychic Vampires: Protection from Energy Predators and Parasites by Dr. Joe H. Slate. I've never read the book myself, but I have seen some of the Kirlian photo results and there is a marked difference. There are also some psychic vampires (such as Michelle Belanger) that can affect EMF detectors to an extent.

If that's true, that's fascinating. Thanks for the info. =3

It seems from what I've heard that among different psychic vampires, there seems to be massive variation in what they can and can't do.

Its probably not fair to liken it to a normal metabolic system of organs and whatnot, but in general, most normal humans can process the same foods, with the exception of allergies and such. With a psychic vamp, its beginning to sound like some can do this, but not that, while others can do this AND that, but not the other.

Why is there this variation? If surviving on energies is paramount, why would certain vamps be at a severe disadvantage to others? Does evolution apply in any way?

I made my above post before I saw this one...

Umm, I'll address the evolution thing first. That's a touchy subject and there are *lots* of origin theories in the community. No one knows for sure but everyone has a favorite. Once again this is something that has not been researched a great deal.

As to the variations, just as some regular people are intolerant to certain foods it would seem that some vampires are intolerant to certain energies, or they just don't work as well. Some psi vampires need specific emotions, others it doesn't matter, some have to feed more often than others, etc. It's a big can of worms.

My personal opinion on the matter is that the cause of vampirism stems from an energetic problem, that being the vampire's subtle body (You could liken it to a bioelectric field if you need an aid of some kind) is damaged in a way that means they cannot produce enough etheric energy or they cannot retain enough etheric energy for the vampire to live "normally". That's my opinion. Different levels of damage would equate to different needs and whatnot.

As to why if you could feed off of plants instead of humans why wouldn't you? Plants usually don't have the higher concentration of etheric energy that "higher" lifeforms do, that being animals and especially humans. It might also be a matter of sympathetics. Human energy is already human, therefore when another human takes it there would be no conversion needed.

I know it's a huge jump in logic to assume something like etheric energy, but in my experience the only way to verify that is through personal experimentation and testing, as it doesn't seem we have the technology for such a thing at the moment.

[D.Darko]

Obscurus

I don't want to butt in and start answering questions that other people might already be working on, but I'd be willing to try to explain and answer any psi questions to the best of my ability.

From reading back though, the experiment you've suggested, D.Darko, would work. The problem is that most of the scientific community doesn't believe it's possible or just doesn't care. And unless you get someone somewhat reputable in an academic circle to take a look then no matter what results you get they'll probably be ignored.

The Atlanta Vampire Alliance has been doing some surveys and I think they're still in the process of compiling the data. The survey was massive and I think it was done a couple of years ago. I participated in it. They are supposedly collaborating with those in the scientific and medical communities on this study, but I don't know that much about it and there's not a lot of raw data available as of yet. If you want to investigate it a little further you can go to the website, I'm pretty sure it's www.suscitatio.com

I find it hard to believe the scientific community isn't interested in listening, but I visited the website you provided. At a glance I can't make heads or tails of it, but it is nearly 5am here so that's no suprise. xd I'll look at it again tomorrow.

Its good to know some people are taking the study of this seriously though. If there's one thing I hate more than unsubstantiated claims, its an unwillingness to even bother researching it!

[marlieOmai]

*sigh*
I am having trouble justifying this to others in this twisted world...

[Zimmerchild]

tweetypiemay

*sigh*
I am having trouble justifying this to others in this twisted world...

ok.

[fashion zombie harlot]

Checking in to tell everyone I'll be gone most of the day for a doctor appointment for me and the baby.
I'll miss you!
gonk

lol
<3

[Alyss Weller]

fashion zombie harlot

Checking in to tell everyone I'll be gone most of the day for a doctor appointment for me and the baby.
I'll miss you!
gonk

lol
<3

Good luck at your appointment.

[fashion zombie harlot]

Well I'm back now.
The babys heartbeats fine, and I'm as healthy as I can be.
^______^
How about you Alyss?

[th3 shorti3]

interesting =)

[Alyss Weller]

fashion zombie harlot

Well I'm back now.
The babys heartbeats fine, and I'm as healthy as I can be.
^______^
How about you Alyss?

Yay!
And I'm doing alright, I'm getting over the cold, just stuffy now x3
but yay no more fever!

[Zimmerchild]

Alyss Weller

fashion zombie harlot

Well I'm back now.
The babys heartbeats fine, and I'm as healthy as I can be.
^______^
How about you Alyss?

Yay!
And I'm doing alright, I'm getting over the cold, just stuffy now x3
but yay no more fever!

i'll trade you the beginning of bronchitis for your cold.

[Alyss Weller]

Zimmerchild

Alyss Weller

fashion zombie harlot

Well I'm back now.
The babys heartbeats fine, and I'm as healthy as I can be.
^______^
How about you Alyss?

Yay!
And I'm doing alright, I'm getting over the cold, just stuffy now x3
but yay no more fever!

i'll trade you the beginning of bronchitis for your cold.

D:
Damn, that sucks, hope you get better soon!
Sounds like you need some chicken noodle soup, sleep and cookies x3 <3

[fashion zombie harlot]

Goodness Im going to be scared the first time he gets sick.
XD
Glad you guys are doing good though.

________
BTW- did you see the little thread about if a human has sex with a vampyre- if that counts as losing your virginity?
XD
I'm getting giggles from LDers

[Alyss Weller]

Yes, Your going to be scared everytime! xD

Haha, and no I havent xDD but that sounds very hilarious!

[fashion zombie harlot]

I guess LD is getting covered by idiots and trolls.
(I don't know either to laugh or feel sad.)